Guild Wars 2

Anet has stated this format exists so that new players can ‘get a feel for the game’ and learn without being a drag on their teams but

1) who even cares if they win or lose in hotjoin? the only difference is like 50 glory and no one takes the format seriously
2) it a terrible misleading introduction to sPvP – all anyone ‘gets a feel’ for is zerging around while using gimmick glass cannon builds
3) the casuals want to play with their casual friends and they can’t do this without switching teams and they probably dont even know how to do this.
4) overloading a map with 60% more players than its supposed to play with is not fun. if you want to discourage and confuse new players, way to go.

Basically 8v8 is garbage. It satisfies nobody and it just creates an endless amount of misconceptions about balance while reducing teamplay instinct.

If you are a player who is trying to get a feel for PvP, play tourney. More and more people are catching onto this. It is much better and funner than 8v8 and on top of that its mostly random people anyway which is the real irony.

1) Get more glory
2) Get more loot
3) Maps actually feel like they’re properly spaced
4) Mostly pugs and 2/3 groups anyway. Yeah there will be organized 5 man that stomp pugs, but there aren’t as many as you would think.

You actually get more Glory in 8v8 by a fair margin if you manage to stack kills. It’s pretty much its only saving grace at the moment.

RamzaBehoulve.5640:

You actually get more Glory in 8v8 by a fair margin if you manage to stack kills. It’s pretty much its only saving grace at the moment.

okay i will give you that. if you want to farm glory, you can do stuff like only play kyhlo and spam trebuchet shots into the zerg for 300 a map.

i was factoring bonus glory from reward chests, but you are right, if you really wanted to farm glory you could do it faster in 8v8.

I care about winning or loosing and I don’t care about glory. But that’s just probably me. I play for the fun. I never really understood people ‘farming’ a game for rewards.
What’s the point in getting rewards for something you don’t even enjoy doing?

To be fair, firing a treb into a mass of people is very enjoyable. Its not hard, but it feels awesome to watch them explode from the 11k dmg and huge knockdown/back.

If you don’t care about winning or losing, what is the point of even playing something?

That’s a terribly destructive attitude in a team environment.

Dallas.2536:

RamzaBehoulve.5640:

You actually get more Glory in 8v8 by a fair margin if you manage to stack kills. It’s pretty much its only saving grace at the moment.

okay i will give you that. if you want to farm glory, you can do stuff like only play kyhlo and spam trebuchet shots into the zerg for 300 a map.

i was factoring bonus glory from reward chests, but you are right, if you really wanted to farm glory you could do it faster in 8v8.

I sometimes get 300 on anymap, depending on how well I play.

And, when I play Hot join, I want to win. Unfortnatly, the casuals don’t know how to use a school other than #1.

Why bother PvPing if you don’t care if you win?

Screw glory, I play to win.