Guild Wars 2

…after I kill them with dual pistols?

Seriously though, it’s just become some sort of meme now. It’s like verbal diarrhea.

I bet you just spammed ‘2’ to write this post.

If a thief kills you calling him an hs spammer always = you are superior.

I haven’t seen it said after the nerf really, but, it was pretty bad.

I killed a player with shortbow and one pistol whip and he accused me of spamming heartseeker. No lie.

People just don’t understand the class so they will say whatever OP they’ve heard recently the class can do. HS is just one small part of a potential problem with the thief mechanics though.

Too much speed
Too many escapes
Too much damage
Anything in the arsenal can be spammed

You guys are going to go from one ability to the next spamming until death because that’s kinda the way the class is designed unfortunately. HS last week Pistol whip this week etc etc.

I’m not exactly sure what to think of thieves right now tbh. I think they’re a little OP but I can see how it wouldn’t take much to make them UP. I don’t think they should be able to melt anyone or anything within a 2 sec window or be able to escape so easily. Many of the skills are just a little too good and if played correctly I’m not sure what a thief would have to fear except maybe a control/tank build and even then they would just run away and that’s only available to a few classes.

Because most of the time a thief is gonna do 4 things

Unload spam
Heartseeker spam
5—>1 on dagger dagger.
pistol whip spam

the only time it’s different is if they are near death which means auto stealth or heal spell to stealth.

Every other class almost has to implement 4-5 other buttons to get the job done. I’ve yet to see a thief with a sword or a shortbow in Spvp and in WvW thieves only use shortbow for the teleport shot.

Pistol whip is from sword, but you may mean greatsword, not sure if they got those or not forgot, I haven’t really been playing spvp or anything much for the last 2 or 3 weeks other than doing pve and arah. I find lupricus to be quite more enjoyable than the current spvp system, and the rage he gets from people, it’s just amazing.

Detahmaio.2014:

Because most of the time a thief is gonna do 4 things

Unload spam
Heartseeker spam
5—>1 on dagger dagger.
pistol whip spam

the only time it’s different is if they are near death which means auto stealth or heal spell to stealth.

Every other class almost has to implement 4-5 other buttons to get the job done. I’ve yet to see a thief with a sword or a shortbow in Spvp and in WvW thieves only use shortbow for the teleport shot.

I really never understood why players think that all thieves still just spam the same ability over and over. Doing that is not effective at all.

Heart seeker spam doesn’t do that much damage above 25% health. You’re better off using your shortbow first for the poison field, cluster shot, and trickshot with a couple disabling shots to avoid any initial burst, then switch weapons, cloak and dagger + steal into a backstab if you can land it, then finally when they are low health should you use heartseeker for the finishing blow. No where in that rotation was an ability spammed.

No good player spams pistol whip ever. Every 60 seconds you get haste which allows you to use 2 back to back hasted pistol whips. Trying to hit someone with an unhasted pistol whip is incredibly difficult on a good player. You’re basically just going to make yourself look bad by pistol whipping air.

Unload is a terrible ability atm. The damage it does is mediocre for the length of the channel and its initiative cost. If you’re spamming this ability, you are doing your team a disservice.

Bottomline: Good thieves use every single one of their abilities on both their weapon sets. And btw, in my build I use shortbow 80% of the time.

its proof that nobodies gonna be happy until thieves are unplayable in a competitive level and impossible on a noob level

R E F L H E X.8413:

Pistol whip is from sword, but you may mean greatsword, not sure if they got those or not forgot, I haven’t really been playing spvp or anything much for the last 2 or 3 weeks other than doing pve and arah. I find lupricus to be quite more enjoyable than the current spvp system, and the rage he gets from people, it’s just amazing.

pistol whip is main hand sword off hand pistol.

Also to the guy above there is a different between not playable and viable

yes there is a difference, too bad most forum goers dont see it, they froth at the mouth like kitten flexing self entitled bullymongers and just want something to kill.

Since there is such a flood of misinformation in this thread to even scare Noah. I will show you the wisdom.

For Pistol whip to be spammed, Quickness has to be applied.
For quickness to be applies thief has a trait (10% chance on a crit with a long cooldown), they also have access to a sigil (same as the trait), and Haste which drains ALL of their endurance (hint hint) and has a 60 second cooldown (they can trait for a lower cooldown but its deep enough in trickery they lose some damage/survivability)

So with that in mind, you will only probably see a thief have quickness 3 times in a full minute, right? Their quickness also only lasts 3s if it is the sigil or trait proc, and 4s if it is from haste. That is at most 10 seconds of spam/ minute at most, with stars aligned.

10s/minute certainly doesn’t sound like the thief you and all these complainers make it out to be jumping from target to target spamming abilities with super speed quickness with 100% uptime and 100% crit chance making planets explode and shooting lighting bolts from its rear.

Next. Pistol Whip SELF ROOTS!
If you dodge once you are out of the range of the ability. The thief cannot just move and keep spamming the ability without stopping. If you get rooted by a thief or turned to stone by a thief (1 regular venom, 1 elite venom) and the thief does not have quickness applied, the condition will still end before the entire animation of the ability giving you ample time to dodge. If you do not dodge or do not bring a stun break that is YOUR fault, it is not A-net’s fault, it is not the thief’s fault, it is not Grandma’s fault. YOUR fault.

Note: Once A-net wisens up about the huge mistake of putting self root on ANY ability for a class that is completely designed on mobility, they will remove it. Then perhaps you can make some threads with dignity.

Won’t let me edit (meant to say forum not thread)