Guild Wars 2

I think tournaments were the best iteration of PvP in GW2 to date, for ppl who don’t know what they are: You Q up with a team, play 1 Map, if you win, you play against another team that won the first Map, if you loose, you start on the first Map again. 3 Maps are played in total in the rewards for each win get higher the more wins you have in the tournament.

Why tournaments are good for the community:

- The frustration level isn’t nearly as high as in the league-system, because you don’t loose sth (like pips) for a loss.
- There is a naturally implemented difficulty-curve, without relying on a broken MMR-System.
- The rewards were big enough to make ppl actually want to team up with 4 other players, in order to get to win the tournaments. In the current system, most players just solo-Q afaik.
- Q-times are shorter (which is another reason more players will team up), because there is no need to differentiate players based on their MMR or Division.

Why tournaments are good for ANet:
- Players that play together with other players are more attached to the game, because of social ties they’ve built in the game.
- With a necessity for 5-man Q’s, ANet could easily implement no class stacking to alleviate the balance-issues.
- No need for ANet to work on an MMR-system.
- Bridge the gap between Stronghold and Conquest by implementing Stronghold into the rotation.
- The tournament-system already existed in the game, so there isn’t much work to do for ANet.
- There is a possibility for certain events that could attract more players (see below).

Other possibilities of Tournaments
- Big weekly Tournaments with more than 3 rounds.
- Fun events with certain rules, like only core-specs.
- Ingame spectator-modes for the last round of the tournament and/or teams with the most tournament wins (like in GW1).
- The performance in Tournaments could easily factor into the challenger-league position of teams.
- ANet could make the league systerm true solo-Q only, which is what many people want. Teams would then still have the tournaments.

nah.

they will not bring back things they removed.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

nah.

they will not bring back things they removed.

You certainly put a lot of effort into your well formulated comment, but just because things haven’t happened so far, doesn’t mean it’s impossible for them to happen.

PowerBottom.5796:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

nah.

they will not bring back things they removed.

You certainly put a lot of effort into your well formulated comment, but just because things haven’t happened so far, doesn’t mean it’s impossible for them to happen.

but given their track record, so far, nothing they removed have ever came back. : (

anyway, regarding the pvp tournaments we had 3+ years ago since launch, i tried it out a bit, it is good fun!

but the queue do take a while, as the system needs to find 8 teams first or 40 players.

round 1 – 8 teams, 4 matches, 4 winners
round 2 – 4 teams, 2 matches, 2 winners
round 3 – 2 teams, 1 match, 1 winner

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good times!

For me personally this is the most missing part indeed. Anet talks about gw beeing esports, but in reality they do nothing to promote teambuilding. No wonder everyone just soloq´s, because theres literally no pvp content for guilds, except for the 8 best in pro league.

How can this be esports if guilds have to fight randoms all day? We truely need ingame tourneys for guilds exclusivly. Then people will start to form teams and we finally would see esports for everyone who wants to participate. GW has everything it needs, but the whole “infrastructure” around the gameplay itself is a pure title/archivement farmfest for soloheroes. Its sad!

Yepp, there is just no incentive to team up and allowing players to team up has often been sth. that MMO’s did better than MOBA’s for example, for a multitude of reasons. Also, playing as a team is where the game actually gets much better IMHO, but it’s useless to go and find a team when nobody has any incentive to play as a team.

Tournaments disappeared because nobody ever took part in them. Just look at the turnout to the most recent AG cups.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Tournaments disappeared because nobody ever took part in them. Just look at the turnout to the most recent AG cups.

I can remember a time when tournaments were played quite a bit, even though they implemented this weird necessity for tournament-tokens, which was totally counterproductive.

PowerBottom.5796:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Tournaments disappeared because nobody ever took part in them. Just look at the turnout to the most recent AG cups.

I can remember a time when tournaments were played quite a bit, even though they implemented this weird necessity for tournament-tokens, which was totally counterproductive.

^ This was a weird barrier put up for tournaments that limited the amount you could play. If people who weren’t prepared wanted to team up and go in that truly hurts no one because it is a pre-made team of people who will go against another pre-made team and at the worst offer an easy win.

I like the idea of bringing back tournament. Would work well for off-season time.

For seasons, I do believe that winning teams should have the option to stay together and be put in queue together to face another winning team. If they’re constantly going to mess with pvp matchmaking get something like the random arena matchmaking in GW1.

• I would really like to see the system off free/paid tournament coming back to the game. If they do that, they can keep unrank like it is, keep rank but only solo/duo Q.
  For the tournament they can keep the top teams leaderboard for challenger cup/pro leagues. Keep the old mechanics/system (3yrs+ ago) of the 3 maps rotation, entry fees and price pool. ( gold trim cape, pips , gold, tickets for pvp legendary rewards etc)

+1 for the post, Anet should really consider this.