Will we ever see leaderboard decay?

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Posted by: Spelling B Champ.3264

Spelling B Champ.3264

Not a whole lot to be said here the title pretty much sums it up. I have friends on the leaderboard who have not played in over a month yet they are still sitting in top 100 spots!?!?? sometimes when people above them loose they even move up a spot or two! This is ridiculous its not as if ladder decay is some strange new concept its something that every serious ladder in the world has…so with that being said can we get some sort of conformation from a Dev that some sort of ladder decay is at least in the works?

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Posted by: Nikkle.4013

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Pretty sure decay is there. I haven’t been tracking people but ive noticed some people in the top 30 have finally fallen out. My guess is that the decay timer started last patch rather then be applied retroactively. If that’s the case, people will start decaying at a faster rate within the next few weeks.

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Posted by: Spelling B Champ.3264

Spelling B Champ.3264

I have been watching the leaderboard since May and i have seen zero decay if you are right and the decay was implemented this last patch (which i really hope it was) then this post was for nothing…lets hope your right and it has already been put in

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Posted by: RoRo.8270

RoRo.8270

I don’t think it exists…. My friend hasn’t played tpvp since the leaderboards were released and he’s still in the top 1k. Does that make any sense?

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Posted by: Nikkle.4013

Nikkle.4013

I don’t think it exists…. My friend hasn’t played tpvp since the leaderboards were released and he’s still in the top 1k. Does that make any sense?

Like I said, I suspect the decay timer having started when they said the implemented decay, which was what 3 weeks ago? If they made decay strong to the point of people dropping off the boards after going on vaction for 2 weeks people would complain. I can’t remember exactly but I think MiM was top 25 before the “decay patch” and have dropped down to 60’s. Check next week, if they have fallen then I suspect decay is there, if not its doesnt exist.

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

uberkingkong.8041

I don’t think it exists…. My friend hasn’t played tpvp since the leaderboards were released and he’s still in the top 1k. Does that make any sense?

Like I said, I suspect the decay timer having started when they said the implemented decay, which was what 3 weeks ago? If they made decay strong to the point of people dropping off the boards after going on vaction for 2 weeks people would complain. I can’t remember exactly but I think MiM was top 25 before the “decay patch” and have dropped down to 60’s. Check next week, if they have fallen then I suspect decay is there, if not its doesnt exist.

Yeah you right. Mrmorry won 18 games like a month ago and hasn’t played since… He wasn’t in top 10, he was ranked 9th 2 or 3 days ago. Today he is ranked 7th.

You know why people lose leaderboard rank faster than they gain it?
A: People on leaderboard rarely play tpvp anymore. So you don’t face leaderboard players your constantly fighting people with %. Half of leaderboard is inactive so you cant beat them to make the leaderboard rank system work as in beat higher players gain rank faster, THERE ARE NO HIGHER PLAYERS they quit after they got on leaderboards.

Reasons:
-Hotjoin, better xp than tpvp.
-There is no benefit to continue to tpvp even when your on the leaderboard because you’ll never drop off.
-Those guys that are top 5? They’ll stay top 5 forever if they never play tpvp anymore.
-The current system doesn’t pressure people keep playing

You shouldn’t get hit by a massive leaderboard spike, you should gradually dwindle by 1-5 ranks if you don’t play for 3 days. But the current system if you don’t play you gradually get better in rank, just watch Mrmorry. I swear he was rank 9 3 days ago.

Also watch the top players with most wins. I don’t see sataar win that many games since he get 1000 games won a month or two ago, tpvp just isn’t worth playing anymore. I’m going to start watching the top 5 from now on though, it doesn’t look like they’ve played a game in awhile, but i’ll have to pay close attention.
Tpvp isn’t competitive as it use to be, and that needs addressing.

Do you really think the best should be playing hotjoins over tpvp?

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Posted by: Lopez.7369

Lopez.7369

Decay is not working right now, or, if it is, it’s working way too slowly.

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

uberkingkong.8041

If I was ranked 1, I sure wouldn’t tpvp for a good while, especially when there is no incentive to continue to tpvp.

And that’s what they are doing right now, because do you see the top 25 fluctuate at all? I sure don’t see any fluctuation.

The only thing people can do now is get to rank 100-300 and then have to win several straight games with no losses because the top 100 don’t even put themselves out to give others chance. The only reason why I say this because I follow sataars rank and he won 3 games and was 90 something yesterday and I’m pretty sure he lost a game or 2, but he went down in rank because theres nobody higher ranking making themselves vulnerable for ranked tpvp match.

That’s why a lot of people are feeling like you lose 1 game it hurts so bad that you gotta win twice or three times just to count for 1 game loss while your on the leaderboards.

But again, zero incentive for people in some leaderboard rank they are satisfied with to continue to tpvp because your not threatened with losing your rank. And hotjoin gives better rewards than tpvp because all the items in the chest are just salvaged anyways, nobody cares about 11s dyes. I’d rather get points towards ranking up in pvp x3 faster than get 11s dyes every now and then, I have over 2000 powders I don’t need pvp materials I have over 250 chests saved up. Hotjoin and earn points to ranking up x3 faster is better reward than having a (50% chance aka you win you get you lose you don’t get) at a tpvp chest.

If they limit hotjoin glory to 200 points max a game, people will start flooding tpvp, 100% guaranteed and hotjoin would be a better place for newcomers. Right now you can earn crazy amounts in hotjoin, especially if your winning the games, if you get 591 points and lose the game you don’t get the extra points. Like this img epic fail. As you can see one img is less points but more glory just cuz I won it.

But if you can easily net 500+ glory a game, why on earth would you even keep playing tpvp? especially when the tournament reward points don’t even count towards ransacker title. Especially why would you do tournaments when your in top 100 already. That rank 7 leaderboard guy is probably rank 69 hotjoin hero, he probably just won 18 straight games just to get on leaderboard and never do them again because he doesn’t have to with the current system, he will stay in top 100 forever in this current system. So whats next after you get to a spot you like on the leaderboards? To get to rank 80 that’s whats next and since this game doesn’t promote tpvp everyone will do hotjoins after they get to a good leaderboard spot.

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Posted by: firebreathz.7692

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Yes! decay is there.. definitely if you don’t believe me take a look at my account since I stopped playing

http://gwshack.info

search for firebreathz

altho you cant really see on the stats I left when i was about 550 on the leader board and im about to drop off about a month or 2 without playing.. thats pretty good decay altho I was puzzled as to why one day I dropped like a stone one sharp drop about 100 places… so.. that might be built in decay ontop of the usual.. but that is pure speculation

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

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Ok so I did some screenshots of the leaderboard lately. Heres the screenshots.

things I noticed is that when Versiant is crying won 5 games and loss 0 games he didn’t move 1 single spot. AS you can see in img 1 and 2.

So if you the top players don’t play NOBODY will take there spots.


However in img 2 and 3 you notice the top players have played, they lost 6 games and won 5 games.

What I don’t understand is how they are still top 10 with 1 loss deficit and even then if the so called glyco system works they should’ve got hit harder rank wise. Because they didn’t play versaint he never played in img 2 and 3. Versaint 5 wins 0 losses didn’t rank him up until after the guys before him played.

If they glyco system worked those guys with 5 wins 6 loss would be somewhere far away from top 10. The only other noticeable person playing is Jumper X and he won 10 games 1 loss and hes 3rd instead of 2nd.

Another noticeable thing is that I know Lily and Supcute are on same team but somehow Supcute got higher rank than lily by playing the same games.

But 5 wins 6 losses and your at the top? You have no where but to go but down and appearently they still at the top.

Even if they played Jumper X and beat him its only 1 game, all the other games had to be with people with worse than jumper x rank, unless some team came out of nowhere which I highly doubt because my theory of not playing and retaining rank forever holds true as you can see with the start of my post. However that rank 7 guy with 18 wins 0 losses moved down ONLY 4 ranks, the 13 wins 0 loss guy moved down 2 ranks. I believe this is only possible because people above those guys in ranks were playing, however if they go on a losing streak those people that never play could become 1st by strict luck and it will then be impossible to knock them out.

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Posted by: DXIEdge.2789

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I know of at least 20 people in the top 100 of the leaderboards who havent moved an inch in a month, and they havent played in a month if not longer.

Decay = non existant at higher rankings atm. Not sure why

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Posted by: Tyler Chapman.1832

Tyler Chapman.1832

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We do indeed have an implemented leaderboard decay. We are keeping a close eye on things and we’ll make adjustments as we see fit.

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Posted by: Shar.3402

Shar.3402

leaderboard decay is in, proof is I just gained like 80 positions in the last couple hours without playing since yesterday. It’s just less “harsh” that what you would expect, I guess.

Of course, there are still people who haven’t played a game in like a month (or more), and are still in the same position, but that is another matter XD

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