Guild Wars 2

The 5 racial capitals and Lion’s Arch, for the most part, are breathtakingly beautiful. In stark contrast, the Heart of the Mists, in my opinion, is dull, depressing, uneventful looking. It possesses neither the attractiveness or the scale befitting a staging area in one of the most important, if not most, parts of the game. Attractiveness is no doubt subjective; I fully accept some people may perhaps find the Mists acceptable looking. But speaking to the sense of scale, I don’t get that wide-eyed feeling in the Mists as when I’m in the 6 main cities, frequently panning the camera to ogle at everything. It’s not merely the size of those cities, a size that wouldn’t make sense in a lobby area, that’s compelling, but the way in which that size is presented architecturally, where the density, multi-layered structures/buildings and rich vistas lend such a sense of import. The Mists just looks and feels barren.

So I think it’s unfortunate that for sPVPers, the Mists will be our “lobby”—what some of us will be seeing most of our GW2 lives whenever we’re not in a game. Whereas PVEers and WvWers get to take in the sights of the Black Citadel, Divinity’s Reach, Lion’s Arch as they wait on WvW ques, advertise sell/buy items or form dungeon parties.

I would have preferred that had they made this sPVP lobby (with all the wonderful training dummies, vendors, etc) as a section in all of the 6 main cities. So that we’d not only have the beauty of the main cities to “lobby in,” but the choice of which of these six very different settings we’d like to idle in and we’d also be able to partake in the main chat channels where most sell/buy/LFG activity is.

Does anyone else feel the same?

Cheers.

I like heart of the mists, if anything they should just add more stuff to it. PvE has it’s side of the game, keep it there.

We have ours, keep it here, just improve it.

I also think that the pvp lobby should be better, after all, you get all this fancy gear and the only place you can show it off in is in the games or heart of the mists… heart of the mists feels like a drive-by not a place for pvpers to hang out

Julia.3702:

I also think that the pvp lobby should be better, after all, you get all this fancy gear and the only place you can show it off in is in the games or heart of the mists… heart of the mists feels like a drive-by not a place for pvpers to hang out

Indeed, I forgot to mention that. Another important reason why the lobby for sPVP shouldn’t be segregated is so that we can display the characters we’ve taken so much time and effort to customize to other people. To not be able to walk around the PVE world—the main world of the game, the most socially immersive part—with our flashy sPVP gear, inadvertantly devalues our sPVP exploits in a game where not only PVP is its greatest feature, but sPVP, quite clearly through Arena Net’s efforts to make it an eSport, is the most prestigious portion of the game.

I’m bumping this to show how much we have loved the Heart of the Mists since launch. <3

I know this is old but no to a pve city. You can’t adjust your build and such for pvp in a pve city.

Add to heart of the mists. Make it more like a city.

When I bumped this I wanted to show how a “pvp” city would be nice, as in no merchants etc, just pvp gear vendors, maybe a couple of arenas and space for dummies. Like in the charr capitol, the pit that would be nice

I think a couple of things can happen to make the Heart of the Mists a lot more enjoyable.

1) Shrink it down
There is so much useless empty space that gives the map the appearance of being a ghost town with no one playing.

2) Add stuff for people to do.
Holiday content would be a good idea.
Dueling
Mystic Forge
Guild Hall

3) Redecorate it
There is so many reminders of content that has been deleted over the last 3 years
Paid tournament vendor, Remove it -.-
The steps where the rank vendors use to be… fill them up or remove it.
Underwater combat Zone remove it
Cannon training remove it

No to shrinking it. Making it more densely populated just causes lag.

There needs to be more practice npcs. There’s always people fighting over them while waiting in queue.

Open up the water area. It’s something to do.

Make it look more like a war zone.

uhohhotdog.3598:

No to shrinking it. Making it more densely populated just causes lag.

Adding things for people do will cause lag as well. I don’t mean shrinking it to the point of everyone standing on top of each other. More along the lines of removing the top 20-25% of the map and moving everything a little closer (maybe by 5-10%)

If you remove the cannons and make that another test dummy area (npc wise) that could help spread things out.

Either stop forcing people to stand in hotm while queuing or improve the area. Or better yet.. both.

yeah i would rather sit in LA and be able to use MF, buy from dung vendors, make money off TP/crafting than afk in HotM and spam forums out of boredom

Or add a portal to Obsidian Sanctum inside hotm. Wtf is that place all about anyway? What a waste of real estate. How much fun would that be if you could kill (and be killed) by bored people waiting for queue.

RIght now theres nothing to do while waiting for long queues except troll the forum and read celebrity gossip

Heart of the Mists doesn’t need to be a city…. It’s meant to be a place to train and gain knowledge in regards to PvP. It does a poor job of it imo. My GF (mmo illiterate gf) couldn’t follow the beginning tutorial without me helping her through. It needs to be brain dead simplier, add arrows pointing where to go!

What HOTM Needs
I would like three (or more) small dueling circles where people can enter and duel inside. It can be 800 radius, just big enough to fit two people but the moment you leave the circle, the person goes Green and you can’t target him.

Players can test out a trait, skill or utility with a friend without needing to enter a dueling server to do so. Players can then enter hot joins or dueling servers to try dueling for real.

We need this!

Mystic blender would be nice.

add dueling to heart of the mists, boom. Everyones happy.

Saiyan.1704:

Heart of the Mists doesn’t need to be a city…. It’s meant to be a place to train and gain knowledge in regards to PvP.

citation needed.

WuGzaGenius.5684:

add dueling to heart of the mists, boom. Everyones happy.

I agree would be nice if they add dueling to heart of the mists or any of the main cities. Just imagine dueling outside of divinity’s reach that alone would give me the Orgrimmar nostalgia back to the old dueling days I had back in WoW, my memories would return.

Yeah a dueling area sounds good so I can gank abc

Personally I feel the Heart of the Mists needs to be more interesting looking. Maybe not a city but I agree with the OP that it should have a similar awe inspiring feel to a city.

The Mists are a metaphysical realm where past and present are the same and demons and gods live. There is a lot that could be done with the Heart of the Mists that go beyond just being a floating landmass with basic grass textures and some old ruins.

Maybe have different sections represent different cities and civilizations. One area could have massive statues of the six gods, maybe including Abaddon, and large walls covered in old writings about them. Another section could have Mursaat architecture while another something from the Kuzricks or Luxons. Stuff from Old Ascalon and New Kryta sitting next to Krait pillars and Charr effigies. Maybe even entirely new objects that we can’t trace to a known civilization that might have importance in the future.

Adding more things to do is a big help too. Dueling arenas surrounded by effigies of the Titans and statues of Balthazar and the Bear Spirit would be pretty fun. More areas to fight more NPCs for basic build testing would go a long way. More golems. Maybe a multi-tiered tower filled with NPCs to save space that looks like something out of Orr.

There is a lot of room to make the Heart of the Mists a visually stunning and interesting place. Right now it’s very generic, which doesn’t fit such an incredibly important lore area.

cakeonroof.7385:

Yeah a dueling area sounds good so I can gank abc

what? do you understand the concept of dueling?

WuGzaGenius.5684:

cakeonroof.7385:

Yeah a dueling area sounds good so I can gank abc

what? do you understand the concept of dueling?

yeah its when someone pops out their harp, to play a tune while we go around a set of chairs. when the music stops, we must find an empty seat and the one standing up loses.

WuGzaGenius.5684:

cakeonroof.7385:

Yeah a dueling area sounds good so I can gank abc

what? do you understand the concept of dueling?

He has a point though. If small dueling area was implemeted in hotm then we’d have trolls entering and ganking people, just like dueling servers.

It needs to be exclusive for just the two people dueling.

Add a “Right Click – Duel” addition to people’s name icons so the two people can duel each other exclusively.

Saiyan.1704:

WuGzaGenius.5684:

cakeonroof.7385:

Yeah a dueling area sounds good so I can gank abc

what? do you understand the concept of dueling?

He has a point though. If small dueling area was implemeted in hotm then we’d have trolls entering and ganking people, just like dueling servers.

It needs to be exclusive for just the two people dueling.

Add a “Right Click – Duel” addition to people’s name icons so the two people can duel each other exclusively.

Isn’t that implied when someone says “dueling” it means between two parties “1v1”

WuGzaGenius.5684:

Saiyan.1704:

WuGzaGenius.5684:

cakeonroof.7385:

Yeah a dueling area sounds good so I can gank abc

what? do you understand the concept of dueling?

He has a point though. If small dueling area was implemented in hotm then we’d have trolls entering and ganking people, just like dueling servers.

It needs to be exclusive for just the two people dueling.

Add a “Right Click – Duel” addition to people’s name icons so the two people can duel each other exclusively.

Isn’t that implied when someone says “dueling” it means between two parties “1v1”

Trolls don’t care.. they’ll gank regardless of what anyone says…

Saiyan.1704:

WuGzaGenius.5684:

Saiyan.1704:

WuGzaGenius.5684:

cakeonroof.7385:

Yeah a dueling area sounds good so I can gank abc

what? do you understand the concept of dueling?

He has a point though. If small dueling area was implemented in hotm then we’d have trolls entering and ganking people, just like dueling servers.

It needs to be exclusive for just the two people dueling.

Add a “Right Click – Duel” addition to people’s name icons so the two people can duel each other exclusively.

Isn’t that implied when someone says “dueling” it means between two parties “1v1”

Trolls don’t care.. they’ll gank regardless of what anyone says…

lmao yeah I’m sure you know where I was coming from but I didn’t know people were so formal with gamespeak syntax.

Is there a dress code to participate in these dueling arenas? Black tie, white tie, business casual?

How soon do I have to RSVP upon receiving the lavender scented invitation that’s hand written in turn of the century Art Nouveau calligraphy?

cakeonroof.7385:

Yeah a dueling area sounds good so I can gank abc

I’m sure you’d want to gank me after I beat you in a duel, friend.

If duels are added it should be a right click option on peoples’ portrait that the other may accept or decline. Having a free for all area might be ok but there wouldn’t be much dueling.

Bring the forge back or just let us queue from anywhere so we can do map completion.