Guild Wars 2

Maybe its just me, but the price on tomes seems a bit high. I understand the need to put in glory sinks, but the tome price is going to set terrible precedent. Right now, it will cost the glory of roughly 136* matches to earn one of the new heals using tomes from pvp. That’s in the ballpark of 17 hours for one skill. (Gold cost is ~20% of glory cost).

I really hope we can get a reevaluation on the glory cost of tomes or actually add XP to pvp. A pvp-er shouldn’t have to dump that much of everything they get just to get a new skill.

*Math: This assumes an average of 18.75 gold per match, 275 glory per match, and 8 matches per hour. This is based on solo queue. Assuming an average of 172 glory per match (hotjoin) puts you at 218 matches to get that much glory (22 hours with 10 matches per hour). Prices are based on the following:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1s9xpo/pvp_developer_livestream_notes/

I don’t think so. You have to remember that it’s not just a skillpoint you are getting it’s also a entire level in PVE content, make that too cheap and you basically say “Hey everyone the best way to level up is to just PVP” and all the PVE content becomes a graveyard.

It would be nice if they split the skill points out into a separate item that was a kitteneaper though.

It should be half the glory and frankly it would be a darn good thing if you could level up an alt in PvP as easily as PvE. Lord knows, the reason I don’t create alts is the thought of having to PvE the same stuff over again.

Pandabro.8743:

I don’t think so. You have to remember that it’s not just a skillpoint you are getting it’s also a entire level in PVE content, make that too cheap and you basically say “Hey everyone the best way to level up is to just PVP” and all the PVE content becomes a graveyard.

It would be nice if they split the skill points out into a separate item that was a kitteneaper though.

No reason PvP shouldn’t be a comparable option for leveling. PvE become a ghost town in this game? That’s a good one. This game could use some of those PvE’ers coming over to PvP. lol

Pandabro.8743:

I don’t think so. You have to remember that it’s not just a skillpoint you are getting it’s also a entire level in PVE content, make that too cheap and you basically say “Hey everyone the best way to level up is to just PVP” and all the PVE content becomes a graveyard.

It would be nice if they split the skill points out into a separate item that was a kitteneaper though.

but u realize that a pvp-player is forced to use this for all new skills that will released 10.12 and the possible new too in the future.

in pve to level an alt from 1-80 within a couple of hours it costs you around 200g (from crafting) so 16g and 120k glory is ridiculously cheap in comparison.

also you aren’t bolted in to pvp, you could go to pve and do nothing but skill points and be done within afew hours.

i think these skills are anets first step into bridging the gap between pvp and pve so expect all future skills to need to be unlocked to use them.
and if you haven’t played pve atall then you’re really missing out!

The price is way too high…I have done every single PvP daily since Feb 2014 (last 10 months) and I have got ~100k glory. Now they seem to be pretty worthless?

Liewec.2896:

in pve to level an alt from 1-80 within a couple of hours it costs you around 200g (from crafting) so 16g and 120k glory is ridiculously cheap in comparison.

wrong. crafting a toon from 1-80 using crafting cost around 120 G lvl 1-400 if you pop a crafting XP booster. Also nobody on thier right mind would craft XP or Glory XP a toon from level 1-20 since it takes less than 2 hours max.

I just dont get why we need skillpoints for unlocking skils in PvP.
If they make a special (cheap) “Skill-point-item”, I’d be ok.
But now you basicly have to level your char from 1 to 26 if you want to unlock those skills.

EverythingEnds.4261:

I just dont get why we need skillpoints for unlocking skils in PvP.
If they make a special (cheap) “Skill-point-item”, I’d be ok.
But now you basicly have to level your char from 1 to 26 if you want to unlock those skills.

Which is easy, with tomes for 1,500 glory per level

Zylonite.5913:

Liewec.2896:

in pve to level an alt from 1-80 within a couple of hours it costs you around 200g (from crafting) so 16g and 120k glory is ridiculously cheap in comparison.

wrong. crafting a toon from 1-80 using crafting cost around 120 G lvl 1-400 if you pop a crafting XP booster. Also nobody on thier right mind would craft XP or Glory XP a toon from level 1-20 since it takes less than 2 hours max.

With the tomes that get you to lvl 20 there are only 60 lvl to do, but most(if not all?) of the crafting professions now gives 7 lvl instead of 10 (because of the new lvl 500) so it only gives 56 level (assuming that all of the craft gives 7 level) and it costs between 130 and 150g i would say.
and btw, crafting booster only applies to the crafting level, not the caracter level

exinax.2178:

EverythingEnds.4261:

I just dont get why we need skillpoints for unlocking skils in PvP.
If they make a special (cheap) “Skill-point-item”, I’d be ok.
But now you basicly have to level your char from 1 to 26 if you want to unlock those skills.

Which is easy, with tomes for 1,500 glory per level

If i calculated right, its 37,5k glory for unlocking one skill.
In my eyes, thats not that little, especially, if you compare this to how easy it is to get the skill points in pve. I ve got a bunch of skill-point -scrolls in my inventory and I actually dont even know where exactly I got those (probably champs). In addition you also can just use the skill point – challanged which are spread over the world or make some dungeons in order to level up.