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Posted by: Vulcan.7035

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So, I was just on my theif and we won our last game 159 – 500. After I port back to the PVP lobby, I get a whisper from someone I apparently played against last game and he said “keep zerging cheating loser coward lmao” then blocked me.

I don’t get it? I know no one on our team was cheating and the guy is probably just salty, but is “Zerg Cheating” an actual thing?

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

Was it in Stronghold?

Edit: I guess probably not since it was a flat 500 win. I guess they were just upset that your team worked together. People come up with all kinds of reasons to be mad when they lose here.

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Posted by: Vulcan.7035

Vulcan.7035

Was it in Stronghold?

Edit: I guess probably not since it was a flat 500 win. I guess they were just upset that your team worked together. People come up with all kinds of reasons to be mad when they lose here.

Nope, it was the fire one with trebs.

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Posted by: lead.7543

lead.7543

I just think they guy wanted 1v1 fight and instead got 3v1 or 4v1 and then QQ about zerg cheating because it is “player vs player” not “zerg vs player”.

Nothing more nothing less…

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Posted by: Crimson Shi.5047

Crimson Shi.5047

It’s 1v1 team conquest pvp….duh

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

the whole point of conquest is to force uneven team fights in your team’s favor so you get to kill the other team members effectively.

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Posted by: Zynt.5769

Zynt.5769

I’ve noticed people complaining, quite a lot recently, about being +1’d and stuff. For example, I just spawned, 1 of our team was at home, fighting someone on point, so as I passed, I went to help my team mate out and killed the other player. Then in /say the guy we just beat said “lol 2v1”.

The same thing happened again in a few other games. I remember one guy getting very offended that he got killed and in /map he said “blue team, how pathetic. You need to 3v1 someone to beat them”.

If you outnumber certain players, they type something snarky in /say or /map such as, “you zerging noobs” or “lol 3v1” etc.

It seems to me that a lot of people don’t seem to realise they’re playing a 5v5 game, not a 1v1. There’s a lot of lone wolves in the game, that just want to have 1v1s, rather than work as a team. I don’t think Conquest is a game mode that suits them, which makes me question why they don’t just play Street Fighter or something, if they want to just have 1v1 battles.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

Always play with say and map chat turned off, instablock anyone who whispers you without responding to them.

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

BrotherBelial.3094

So, I was just on my theif and we won our last game 159 – 500. After I port back to the PVP lobby, I get a whisper from someone I apparently played against last game and he said “keep zerging cheating loser coward lmao” then blocked me.

I don’t get it? I know no one on our team was cheating and the guy is probably just salty, but is “Zerg Cheating” an actual thing?

Sounds like someone who’s never played PvP before. Didn’t know you could zerg in PvP.

I’ve noticed people complaining, quite a lot recently, about being +1’d and stuff. For example, I just spawned, 1 of our team was at home, fighting someone on point, so as I passed, I went to help my team mate out and killed the other player. Then in /say the guy we just beat said “lol 2v1”.

The same thing happened again in a few other games. I remember one guy getting very offended that he got killed and in /map he said “blue team, how pathetic. You need to 3v1 someone to beat them”.

If you outnumber certain players, they type something snarky in /say or /map such as, “you zerging noobs” or “lol 3v1” etc.

It seems to me that a lot of people don’t seem to realise they’re playing a 5v5 game, not a 1v1. There’s a lot of lone wolves in the game, that just want to have 1v1s, rather than work as a team. I don’t think Conquest is a game mode that suits them, which makes me question why they don’t just play Street Fighter or something, if they want to just have 1v1 battles.

Yeah, it happens, but I do lol people when they where nearly finished till a team mate came along and saved them. But only If they are that bad and give out an owned or rekt first.

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Posted by: Dristig.9678

Dristig.9678

It’s the new meta. People aren’t used to being dusted the second a +1 or +2 shows up. Last meta you could hold out longer against a uneven fight and your pug teammates might eventually stumble over to your point to see what’s going on.

Now you have to have a good rotation and that makes pugging a little harder. If you want to win at all in this meta as soloQ you gotta stick together and not send one far and one to each creature. lol

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Posted by: suffish.4150

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I see a few people complaining about zerging in pvp, but the thing is that if a team was ‘zerging’ as in staying in a group of 4 people minimum for most of the game, they will probably lose because they would be getting all of their points decapped all the time. So to answer the OP, yes Zerging is a thing in pvp but ‘Zerg cheating’ is not as you would only be putting yourself at a disadvantage if you stayed in a big group all the time.

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Posted by: shion.2084

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To be fair, I will LoL on 3v1’s … but it’s just because I had fun entertaining 3 of them on a point for that long while hopefully my team was taking the other two. Plus if they need a third to finish you off, you’ve probably done well. Of course I don’t write it when 3 come by, immediately kill me and I accomplished nothing. So you may be misinterpretting comments as complaints.

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Posted by: shion.2084

shion.2084

Most frustrating thing is when I tied up 3 of them for 30 seconds or so and look over to see…. they still also have all the other points…. and then I know I’m not going to be winning the game no matter what.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

DW about it, i got reported for cheating because i used thief downstate port to the clocktower roof. I got reported and flamed countless times for filling my role: +1 :|

Last season was the worst: i got called names, told to quit game, uninstall, kill myself etc. by own teammates just for playing thief.

Welcome to pvp lol.

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Posted by: R O C.6574

R O C.6574

DW about it, i got reported for cheating because i used thief downstate port to the clocktower roof. I got reported and flamed countless times for filling my role: +1 :|

Last season was the worst: i got called names, told to quit game, uninstall, kill myself etc. by own teammates just for playing thief.

Welcome to pvp lol.

You can port to roof in clocktower??!
I’ll be trying that tonight XD

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

DW about it, i got reported for cheating because i used thief downstate port to the clocktower roof. I got reported and flamed countless times for filling my role: +1 :|

Last season was the worst: i got called names, told to quit game, uninstall, kill myself etc. by own teammates just for playing thief.

Welcome to pvp lol.

You can port to roof in clocktower??!
I’ll be trying that tonight XD

yeah, from some points, for example mid point or balcony (under certain angle that is)

go to HJ, try it out

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Posted by: Rezzet.3614

Rezzet.3614

the only way to cheat in stronghold is with mega heals and boon ele that keep minions and lords fully healed and buffed and immortal

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Posted by: Onlysaneman.9612

Onlysaneman.9612

While the hostility of the individual was uncalled for, and they are likely somewhat missing the point of conquest, I’d like to play Devil’s Advocate a moment.

There are games where, for some reason, your team is just not very good. Your allies get all split up, and a group of 2-3 of them are always moving around and killing anyone before you can regroup. Whether it’s your fault or not, this is likely to result in you getting killed over and over again, and not being able to accomplish much of anything the entire match, These are, while rare, in my experience the absolute worst kind of match.

In most lost causes, you can at least get the satisfaction of maybe winning a few 1v1 fights off to the side- a small victory, maybe, but something to hold onto and keep playing for. When every 1v1 is interrupted by a swarm of the enemy team, you can’t get an iota of fun out of the rest of the match and might as well- as much as I hate those who do- go afk. It was likely this feeling of frustration that led to their comments, rather than actually feeling you were cheating.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

Whether it’s your fault or not, this is likely to result in you getting killed over and over again, and not being able to accomplish much of anything the entire match, These are, while rare, in my experience the absolute worst kind of match.

Probably some of the most common kind of matches in my experience. People have a tendancy to completely tunnelvision on points and while the fighting can be great, all they do is feed hundreds of points by getting killed one by one. SPvP isnt about “fair” duels, its all about tactics and having the right player in the right place at the right time. And yes, sometimes that include going 5v2 or whatever.

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Posted by: Slininstien.7546

Slininstien.7546

Here’s the thing people don’t understand about this meta…

When you fight or are against one of those people that instantly die or just plays stupidly, they “feed”, which is the constant death and basically zero production to a team.

Teams can feed, people can feed. Just a lot of food up in here.

There is a point to that, though. When you kill someone quickly in ,say, a 4v4 on mid point. Then it becomes a 4v3, and if you have a thief they can go backcap while your team 3v3’s, or SO many possibilities after that.

People call the strategy “zerging” because once you have the stagger, and you win mid, and someone is watching mid/home against the backcap, rushing 4 guys everywhere is very effective in soloque and teamques. It’s just how the game works with 15s respawns.

People need to get over this “zerging is bullcrap” idea. ITS IN THE GAME AND IT IS BREAKABLE AND EXPLOITABLE YOU JUST NEED TO GET GUD ENOUGH TO DO IT.