Guild Wars 2

I was just wondering, because I have posted about this a few times and gotten little/no response:

Are you guys happy making 0 gold in pvp?

In gw1 all pvp was profitable in the form of balthazar faction => zkeys.

I for one would love to play more pvp, but feel like I’m wasting time that I could be spending farming the mountain of gold i need for legendary/ascended gear.

I suggested being able to buy gems with glory, something like 5000 glory = 100 gems or so. This way people who play pvp can make gold and also have access to gem store items without having to pay real money.

I think the best thing to do would be to be able to directly buy some gold & karma with glory (gems might be a bad idea for anet’s profits). It would be a lot more motivating to play 8v8 public games for those of us who enjoy both pvp and pve!!

Even though I got nearly 2 gold for the gems I got for doing paids last night, I feel you. PvPers need dyes too ANet, and the rare unidentified one doesn’t cut it! Must I keep buying gems for gold because I don’t PvP? :p And yeah..I waste money on gems occasionally, I’m not poor and love supporting the game.

Lowellollipop.5817:

I think the best thing to do would be to be able to directly buy some gold & karma with glory (gems might be a bad idea for anet’s profits). It would be a lot more motivating to play 8v8 public games for those of us who enjoy both pvp and pve!!

This has nothing to do with you farming karma for a PvE item of some description does it? :P

Maze.5283:

Lowellollipop.5817:

I think the best thing to do would be to be able to directly buy some gold & karma with glory (gems might be a bad idea for anet’s profits). It would be a lot more motivating to play 8v8 public games for those of us who enjoy both pvp and pve!!

This has nothing to do with you farming karma for a PvE item of some description does it? :P

obviously not! I wouldn’t dare to say such a thing for my own good! right?

Indeed. And PvE’ers along with WuvWuv players should get glory boosters, ranks, finishers and armor unlocks with achievements from PvE and WuvWuv as well.

If it’s not a two-way street then it’s hardly fair.

You are aware Zkeys came really late into the game? What 2-3 years
Before that it was the chest in HA.
Anyways would like to see some goodies, making keys would be nice.

Braxxus.2904:

Indeed. And PvE’ers along with WuvWuv players should get glory boosters, ranks, finishers and armor unlocks with achievements from PvE and WuvWuv as well.

If it’s not a two-way street then it’s hardly fair.

Gold = Karma = Glory = currencies not involving real money and you should be able to trade one to another somehow

Experience (levels) = Ranks

Skins = Skins

We’re only talking about currencies, not the rest. Are we?

I’m against allowing gold buyout with glory.

Some random guys would just start farming glory in empty servers (welcome bots) and stop to pvp at all just to get thier gold which would mess up the game economy and gem prices in the player market.

The thing that could be implemented is more rewards, for example account bound dye packs that could be bought with glory. They could even allow karma or WvW badge purchases with glory and it still wouldn’t affect the economy, taken you can’t sell karma gear or badges.

Yeah it would be real nice if we can get PvE rewards(like karma and gold) from PvP.

No I’m not.

I made a post about this on guru a while ago. I think we should still get gold as cosmetic items like dyes are bought with gold in both PvP and PvE.

No, and I think it would be awesome for getting more PvE players into PvP.

Lowellollipop.5817:

Gold = Karma = Glory = currencies not involving real money and you should be able to trade one to another somehow

Experience (levels) = Ranks

Skins = Skins

We’re only talking about currencies, not the rest. Are we?

Gold = Gems = Currency involving RL money actually.

I personally do not really care – there is nothing gold will buy that I would want.

they’d need to get a solid report feature in place if they were to add gold farming, so we dont get flooded with asian afkers.

You get gems in paids, trade them for gold.

Miku Lawrence.6329:

You get gems in paids, trade them for gold.

^This

This is the system that needs to be worked! Work for your gold!

I think casual gamers would play spvp alot more if they could progress in it.

Im not saying that SPVP itself should have progression/gear. Im glad it doesnt. I’m saying if i coudl earn tokens to turn into experience in lions arch or something so i could progress in the overworld that would be nice.

You can progress doing wvwvw, so why not SPVP?
Im not chocked up about it myself, i spvp despite this, however i know for a fact alot of casuals stay clear of spvp for precisely this reason.

I am not happy. I would like to earn gold from my PvP.

Considering that you should play both sides to get the most out of the game it would make sense to have the rewards intermingle.

got a celestial dye last night…so not 0 gold for me, btw i put it on, because i don’t give a kitten bout gold…i play pvp only xD You can also trade gems from paids for gold too…but again i’d rather use them for tickets..

I agree that playing sPVP should be profitable. It will give me a reason to actually play it

You need gold for PvE. I don’t do PvE, therefore I couldn’t care less about getting money from PvP.

But, if it can be helpful to lure new players in, then I’m all for it. :\ Some form of tangible reward for the PvErs out there, would be cool I guess.

Truly, we should get gold for avoiding fights and playing merrygoround with folks for glory.

SteepledHat.1345:

Truly, we should get gold for avoiding fights and playing merrygoround with folks for glory.

^
This.

PvE guys and WvW guys work for their rewards which are used in PvE and WvW.
PvPers don’t NEED any of those PvE rewards at all, we get everything we need FOR PvP THROUGH PvP’ing.

Unless you guys want ANet to start rewarding pvp skins, ranks, glory, etc for doing dungeons and WvW etc then it’s not a balanced idea at all.

There are definitely a lot of potential issues with a system that involves gold or equivalent items, but sPvP is desperately in need of a feeder system and the WvW player-base is the most obvious choice. WvW isn’t terribly rewarding in terms of gold, so even a small amount would be enough incentive to complete the PvP dailies at the very least. I don’t know where Anet thinks tournament PvP is going when most of the existing GW2 players don’t even have a casual interest in it.

I like it the way things are now. I don’t need the gold because nothing in spvp costs gold. Heck I barely spend my glory as it is.

The ability to buy bags and a few other stuffs I think is far more than enough.

Guys, I’m somehow economics freak so let me just say one thing many people seem to forget or don’t consider out of simple lack of economic insight.

If you allow to get gold in PvP you must consider its deep consequences.

1. First of all it creates an incentive to farm PvP. No matter how’d you get the gold. People would farm glory/match wins or whatever to get their share of gold.

2. With this incentive additional people jump into PvP. Not to compete though, but to get the gold.

3. Bots join PvP and farm nodes day and night in empty servers.

4. Gems and gold markets are connected. People buy gems with RL money and sell them to players. The more gold exists in the game the more you have to pay for the gems. Gems become expensive and markets suffers from inflation (gold price/value drops).

5. Not only gems but also PvE items become more expensive (inflation, again).

6. Guys can buy gems and sell them for more gold, leaving the game more vulnerable to RL money financing.

Is it what you want? I do not.

This reward you lack is supposed to be gems you get for participating in Paid Tournaments. We know there is a problem with that right now.

As I mentioned before, the only way possible to introduce some more interesting and useful rewards is to give PvPers unsellable things that can be used in PvE/WvW.

Account-bound – dye packs, armour/weapon skins (not items!), WvW badges, minipets, etc.
Now, these things would cause a drop in prices of some items of PvE origin (minis, dyes, possibly some rare skin exotics, because you could just craft an exotic cheaply and then apply a skin from PvP). It would just cause a shift in demand for these PvE items. BUT it would keep bots and farmers out of the circuit, at the same time providing PvPers with items they could use outside of PvP.

I agree that adding account bound dyes (and other items) for glory would be a good and easy solution.

Rewards are bad for pvp formats since it attracts the wrong audience.

How to make money from sPvP ?

1) Buy/win chests

2) Salvage Items

3) Create Dye using mystic forge ( 1 Consumable Token Consumable Token + 1 Arcane Orb Arcane Orb + 10 Arcane Powder Arcane Powder + 1 Arcane Sliver Arcane Sliver = Random Dye )

4) Sell Dye on TP

With the huge need of more players for spvp, i see no reason to deny them some gold, exp or karma.
And bots won’t probably even exist in spvp, unless they give more gold in spvp than botting in open world.

Make the money reward for getting to the top of a free tourny.

First place , 50 silver, second place 25 silver. If ppl want to come into pvp to farm money, they will have to win a fair bit of free tournies, which means actual competitive effort, to get it done.

No money for hot joins.

Glory will never be used outside of sPvP. AN does not like cross-currencies. (it wasn’t too long ago when the “karma-to-gold” crisis got nerfed)

we get 2 copper for daily-pvp so in xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx years i can buy something in trading post

This is one of the two reason i don’t like spvp. The main reason is much more important since it has to do with the whole game mode which sucks in my opinion and far from being as fun as any gw1 pvp offerings.

lvis.3824:

How to make money from sPvP ?

1) Buy/win chests

2) Salvage Items

3) Create Dye using mystic forge ( 1 Consumable Token Consumable Token + 1 Arcane Orb Arcane Orb + 10 Arcane Powder Arcane Powder + 1 Arcane Sliver Arcane Sliver = Random Dye )

4) Sell Dye on TP

I think in my total of 33 ranks worth of chests ive gotten maybe 20 arcane slivers.

today i got a new rank and bought 40 gold chests and 20 silver.. i got ca 15 colors and created 15 with mystic forge. after i selled them i has earned ca 25 silver..

kagemitsu.3657:

You need gold for PvE. I don’t do PvE, therefore I couldn’t care less about getting money from PvP.

But, if it can be helpful to lure new players in, then I’m all for it. :\ Some form of tangible reward for the PvErs out there, would be cool I guess.

A lot of players, including myself, who play PvP also like to play WvW as it’s basically a large scale PvP map. Unfortunately, WvW shares gear with PvE so you do need gold and such to make sure you don’t get stomped by people with much better gear than you. So I think it would be nice if there was a way to earn gold in sPvP.

yeah and u could bye maybe dyes u hasnt get dropped atm or u want to collect miniatures.. actual pvp ppl must spend gems

Waffler.1257:

kagemitsu.3657:

You need gold for PvE. I don’t do PvE, therefore I couldn’t care less about getting money from PvP.

But, if it can be helpful to lure new players in, then I’m all for it. :\ Some form of tangible reward for the PvErs out there, would be cool I guess.

A lot of players, including myself, who play PvP also like to play WvW as it’s basically a large scale PvP map. Unfortunately, WvW shares gear with PvE so you do need gold and such to make sure you don’t get stomped by people with much better gear than you. So I think it would be nice if there was a way to earn gold in sPvP.

Then go earn your WvW levels/gear. You shouldn’t just have them handed to you.

mickers.2715:

lvis.3824:

How to make money from sPvP ?

1) Buy/win chests

2) Salvage Items

3) Create Dye using mystic forge ( 1 Consumable Token Consumable Token + 1 Arcane Orb Arcane Orb + 10 Arcane Powder Arcane Powder + 1 Arcane Sliver Arcane Sliver = Random Dye )

4) Sell Dye on TP

I think in my total of 33 ranks worth of chests ive gotten maybe 20 arcane slivers.

You do realize that you can convert other materials to slivers ?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Arcane_Converter

Glad to help

hooma.9642:

today i got a new rank and bought 40 gold chests and 20 silver.. i got ca 15 colors and created 15 with mystic forge. after i selled them i has earned ca 25 silver..

It was bad luck then, you could also have gotten an http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Abyss_Dye which goes for ~ 20gold…. its’ random

“Glory for Gems”

Sounds like a terrible idea at first, the way I Imagine it from your standpoint 5,000 glory for 100, gems means it’s set price, probably from an npc right?

Anet really wants to give their gems away :P

How about instead, it’d be a market like the gold>Gems Market, Players can sell their gems for glory if there are people willing to buy glory with gems, But why would they want that? Glory is useless!

Create a use for glory, say 135,000 glory weapons or armor you can buy for PVP.
or Just add the ability to buy upper tier glory armor/weapons for ridiculous prices (WITHOUT CHANGING HOW CHESTS WORK)

Allow Glory to be spent on dyes or other things also at hefty prices, Even it out so the ipo for gems is like 20k per 100gems and you need a bunch of glory to buy a skin.

People buy Gems to buy glory skins, Anet is happy, The market economy isn’t flooded with gold, Pvpers get a nice source of gems, business is good Anet devotes more time to sPvP, more people play because now there’s more game modes and lots of fun times for all, etc.