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absurd penalty for disconnect
1 minute and 30 seconds I believe….
Sometimes I wish it would skip the unnecessary HotM map loading screen if you’re already in a match.
I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.
….. And Elementalist.
40 min is not that bad. Think about it this way: you caused 4v5, chances are you would have never come back. You could have wasted other players time and rating. 1 match lost if someone leaves, to make up for it you would need to play another match = ca. 40 including queue times.
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This is why you should queue from some random dead zone like Lorna’s pass or timberline falls, lower load times.
Sounds like you “D/C” a lot since dishonor is 3 minutes to start and cumulative for each additional dishonor amount
40 min is not that bad. Think about it this way: you caused 4v5, chances are you would have never come back. You could have wasted other players time and rating. 1 match lost if someone leaves, to make up for it you would need to play another match = ca. 40 including queue times.
I could, but I did not. I joined back. We won. Teammates got pips + rating up. I got penalty.
40 min is not that bad. Think about it this way: you caused 4v5, chances are you would have never come back. You could have wasted other players time and rating. 1 match lost if someone leaves, to make up for it you would need to play another match = ca. 40 including queue times.
I could, but I did not. I joined back. We won. Teammates got pips + rating up. I got penalty.
You joined too late, the system flagged you as leaver.
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Sounds like you “D/C” a lot since dishonor is 3 minutes to start and cumulative for each additional dishonor amount
Nope, this is my fist d/c in current season.
Actually I had similar situation back in February, however got only 5-6min of dishonorable. Now 40min.
This is a flaw with the system, but without the technology to distinguish between a genuine disconnection and someone abusing a disconnection to escape a losing game or to troll, innocent players will be punished.
i was hoping -50 rating for leavers and afkers
40min is too forgiving
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excellent penalty you deserved the 40 mins, stop acting like the system was like ‘’men ill just randomly will give this guy 40 mins penalty because i can’’
need to lose rating poitns too
I took an arrow to the knee
This is a flaw with the system, but without the technology to distinguish between a genuine disconnection and someone abusing a disconnection to escape a losing game or to troll, innocent players will be punished.
It would be simpler if system does not allow to rejoin for any situation.
That would stop class swap and save some time.
I don’t see why he should be penalized if he joined back within small amount of time and team won PERIOD.
/start sarcasm
for any who are happy about his misfortune, I wish you the same and then come back to talk about how happy you were to be penalized when you had a short DC, came back and won the match with the rest of your team, also how happy you were you got dishonor for 40 minutes and how that gave you ample time to consider changing internet connection cause there must be a better/cheaper provider somewhere out there right?
end sarcasm/
This is a flaw with the system, but without the technology to distinguish between a genuine disconnection and someone abusing a disconnection to escape a losing game or to troll, innocent players will be punished.
This is the reason behind cumulative punitions. Someone getting a random disconnection won’t get punished too hard. However if you keep playing ranked games with your poor internet setup or whatever is happening, you are voluntarily playing those games knowing that you have high chances to disconnect. One should not be forgiven if he’s willingly tagging for ranked games knowing his setup is unstable.
Now, I would like to know what generally happens to your rating if one of your teammembers disconnects at the beginning of the game and you end up losing the game? I know I lost rating that way 3 times today.
Now, 40 minutes seems harsh for a D/C… especially when they won! And it’s not as if a D/C was OP’s fault.
d/c is to hash, If u can log back in under a min their should be no dishonor. Right now you are better staying log off and not helping your team.
if you team can win with you afk or disconnected for 2+ minutes, you don’t deserve any points because you were being carried anyway. I’m all for harsh punishments for afkers and DC’ers.
d/c is to hash, If u can log back in under a min their should be no dishonor. Right now you are better staying log off and not helping your team.
Iirc, you have 1 minute to log back in before the system flags you as a deserter. So it works this way anyway.
It also has no visible timeout until it’s racked up on your account. So first offence should see no timeout.
Punishments start at 3-5 minutes and increase exponentially.
It is also possible to have Dishonour with no visible timeout because it decays much slower then the timeout.
Something tells me the OP isn’t being entirely honest.
Kitten.
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Problem is that it is impossible for Anet to know if your dcd is voluntary or if it is a connection problem. Sometime, for example, it happens to me that my adsl goes down . It is impossible for Anet to know this or if simply i do it by myself. I think that the biggest problems are for players who play with wimax conn or other not wired connections
More proof that the dishonor system is an unnecessary useless function that should go away.
More proof that the dishonor system is an unnecessary useless function that should go away.
It’s far from this. When it was removed, players begged for it to be reinstated because there was no punishment for afk, or DC’s.
Regardless of whether it’s your fault or not, you more then likely result in the loss of a game. That’s no fun for 4 other players.
Kitten.
if you team can win with you afk or disconnected for 2+ minutes, you don’t deserve any points because you were being carried anyway. I’m all for harsh punishments for afkers and DC’ers.
You are inferring he is bad because he was DCed? Maybe, if he was playing the entire time, they would have won faster. Perhaps the other team was just that bad. You can’t assume he was carried without knowing how well he plays. Don’t be a kitten.
if you team can win with you afk or disconnected for 2+ minutes, you don’t deserve any points because you were being carried anyway. I’m all for harsh punishments for afkers and DC’ers.
You are inferring he is bad because he was DCed? Maybe, if he was playing the entire time, they would have won faster. Perhaps the other team was just that bad. You can’t assume he was carried without knowing how well he plays. Don’t be a kitten.
It doesn’t matter. In 99% cases 4v5 is a loss. The system can’t see whether he is leaver, troll, afker or just dc’d. He took too long to load in, his team had to carry 4v5 match – he does not deserve any points tbh. And 40 min is rather mild punishment. If Anet was to remove it, then people would abuse it a lot (like they did in s1 for example).
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if you team can win with you afk or disconnected for 2+ minutes, you don’t deserve any points because you were being carried anyway. I’m all for harsh punishments for afkers and DC’ers.
You are inferring he is bad because he was DCed? Maybe, if he was playing the entire time, they would have won faster. Perhaps the other team was just that bad. You can’t assume he was carried without knowing how well he plays. Don’t be a kitten.
It doesn’t matter. In 99% cases 4v5 is a loss. The system can’t see whether he is leaver, troll, afker or just dc’d. He took too long to load in, his team had to carry 4v5 match – he does not deserve any points tbh. And 40 min is rather mild punishment. If Anet was to remove it, then people would abuse it a lot (like they did in s1 for example).
You do not get the point. The issue is no existence of punishment but a lack of clear information what to expect. We do not know if we get punished and for how long till the match ends. I would like to know what I risk before I join ranked.
if you team can win with you afk or disconnected for 2+ minutes, you don’t deserve any points because you were being carried anyway. I’m all for harsh punishments for afkers and DC’ers.
You are inferring he is bad because he was DCed? Maybe, if he was playing the entire time, they would have won faster. Perhaps the other team was just that bad. You can’t assume he was carried without knowing how well he plays. Don’t be a kitten.
It doesn’t matter. In 99% cases 4v5 is a loss. The system can’t see whether he is leaver, troll, afker or just dc’d. He took too long to load in, his team had to carry 4v5 match – he does not deserve any points tbh. And 40 min is rather mild punishment. If Anet was to remove it, then people would abuse it a lot (like they did in s1 for example).
You do not get the point. The issue is no existence of punishment but a lack of clear information what to expect. We do not know if we get punished and for how long till the match ends. I would like to know what I risk before I join ranked.
You are welcome to suggest Anet a technical solution for such issue that wouldn’t involve ridiculous investments.
As far as general info goes, i think it is pretty clear what to expect when you continue to dc/leave matches.
Also, i would like to add that i lost countless matches due to leavers/afk/dc and i have yet to receive dishonor for dc’ing from match. It is not like i haven’t dcd’d before but i got in match pretty fast. Don’t play on toaster? Get better internet connection? If you are generally lagging, just don’t queue for ranked till issue is fixed.
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if you team can win with you afk or disconnected for 2+ minutes, you don’t deserve any points because you were being carried anyway. I’m all for harsh punishments for afkers and DC’ers.
You are inferring he is bad because he was DCed? Maybe, if he was playing the entire time, they would have won faster. Perhaps the other team was just that bad. You can’t assume he was carried without knowing how well he plays. Don’t be a kitten.
It doesn’t matter. In 99% cases 4v5 is a loss. The system can’t see whether he is leaver, troll, afker or just dc’d. He took too long to load in, his team had to carry 4v5 match – he does not deserve any points tbh. And 40 min is rather mild punishment. If Anet was to remove it, then people would abuse it a lot (like they did in s1 for example).
You do not get the point. The issue is no existence of punishment but a lack of clear information what to expect. We do not know if we get punished and for how long till the match ends. I would like to know what I risk before I join ranked.
It isn’t a random number they give out though, so you must D/C a lot for it to have accumulated to 40 mins, it is literally how the system works it starts at 3 and increases each time after that every time you D/C for 2mins+, go read up on the dishonor system, it doesn’t hand out arbitrary numbers. You know the risks they have been known for a year, it also seems like you D/C a lot so you should know you probably have a high chance of getting dishonor due to your connection.
The dishonor timer goes down if you don’t D/C within a certain time period.
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what if your D/C resulted on one of your teammate getting kicked out of the top 250?
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It isn’t a random number they give out though, so you must D/C a lot for it to have accumulated to 40 mins
As I said before, It was my first D/C this season.
it is literally how the system works it starts at 3 and increases each time after that every time you D/C for 2mins+, go read up on the dishonor system, it doesn’t hand out arbitrary numbers. You know the risks they have been known for a year, it also seems like you D/C a lot so you should know you probably have a high chance of getting dishonor due to your connection.
The dishonor timer goes down if you don’t D/C within a certain time period.
That’s interesting, because here I found completely different info. According to this If I D/C a lot then I would have been unable to play for many hours.
There is no clear info why I got 40min for a single D/C + additional time spent in the match I rejoined to.
From another post :
If you return to a match after a disconnect or switch classes, you will not gain dishonor.
We are always watching ‘the numbers’ and have the ability to change the variables of dishonor as we see fit. If we think lowering one number or raising another will reduce the amount of leavers and afk players, then we will certainly do it.
I returned to match and get dishonor.
They have ability to change numbers, so it isn’t clear how much time of dishonorable we risk.
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Same… First placement, I got dc but from 270-380 we won 500-450 and what I gained? LOST. why the kitten? we won, not asking them to give me a won even when I lose, but give me at least when I win