Guild Wars 2

this morning around 8.30am GMT + 8:00 i was checking out the pvp game server, those hotjoin games.

i saw around 16-17 servers with players in them for both 5 vs 5 and 8 vs 8

that translates into
16 × 10 = 160
17 × 10 = 170

16 × 16 = 256
17 × 16 = 272

160 + 256 = 416
170 + 272 = 442

thus max possible amount of hotjoin players for that time i check should be around 350 ~ 400+ since not all servers are full

i have no idea how many sPvP players are playing solo arena or team arena since there is no way to check them. and there is no public record of how many such games are carried out.

the question is, should sPvP introduce more rewards / carrots / things / goodies / etc in order to attract more players from the WvW / PvE crowd?

some comments that i have seen before from people.

WvW
- cannot build the stats they want

PvE
- not rewarding enough
- cannot level up PvE characters

sPvP
- no death match
- no 1 vs 1
- no 2 vs 2
- no 3 vs 3

again, the question, so, should we try to come up with more new things to attract them WvW / PvE players?

i.e.
- new game modes
- more rewards
- etc

yes? no?
share your opinions?
examples?
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some examples of how to attract them, that i could think of.

WvW:
1. more flexible stats distribution.
- instead of 1 amulet + 1 jewel, make it 6 trinkets + 6 jewels (amulet, 2 rings, 2 accessories, 1 back item)
2. buy WXP drinks with glory.
3. earn WXP drinks from sPvP daily, monthly.
various other related WvW stuffs etc

PvE:
1. buy various dye packs with glory
2. buy level up tomes with glory.
3. earn level up tomes from sPvP daily, monthly
various other PvE related stuffs etc

PvP : new things to buy with glory

But, lets suppose you are a wvw or pve player, already lvl 80 different itens etc… Would you go for pvp ?

Also as a pvp player since release, I dont like to spend many hours on pve killing rabits and doing hearts…. I can spend a couple of hours and than I get bored and come Back to pvp action.

So it’s difficult to change sides once you are used to it. Integration between worlds is missing. To make that possible , difficult itens to get in pve should be Very easy to get in pvp and vice-versa. That way, more players are gonna start mixing pve and pvp to obtain what they want. But it has to be easy since no pve player will like to stay for many hours in pvp and also no pvp player will like to spend many hours in pve.

“But, lets suppose you are a wvw or pve player, already lvl 80 different itens etc… Would you go for pvp ?”
i would if the rewards attract me.

i’m what they would call an “achievement hunter” so nowadays i only:
- complete PvE dailies
- complete PvP dailies until PvP monthlies is completed
- complete living story achievements

now i should focus on finishing WvW season 1 achievements since it is ending soon.

i suppose only those hybrid casual players can be attracted over to try out sPvP more often. them hardcore WvWers or carebear PvEers will stay in their own respective playground.

“difficult itens to get in pve should be Very easy to get in pvp and vice-versa.”
what do you about introducing “legendary fragments” in sPvP as rewards. probably redeemed via the upcoming “shards of legends”.

collect enough “legendary fragments” to transform the fragments into a precursor, PvE version.

what do you think?

Atm killing dolyaks award 1 WvWvW server point

So winning a team tourmanent (when they will change to 5-man premade) or winning a 30+ of the newer fractrals , does the same . Only the top 10 guilds with the most scores are listed in the WvWvW leaderboard as <<contributors>> .

Also as Deimos said WXP for winning games in team tournament and its rank up 22 s + 2 gear chests

Server Pride + less blobs ^-^

More carrots pls. I’m a chef.

I am a balanced pve/www/pvp player trying to achieve in all areas of gw2. I would like to see more synergy between modes. In pvp my target is to train small skirmishes in 8v8 hotjoins. I very much enjoy this game type and would like to see it maintained and polished. Only one request from me: please change achievement titles rank based instead of personal score. I would definitely move to ranked games but currently hotjoin rewards better in pvp titles which is very sad.

This is one of the reasons why i suggested getting legendary pvp items through achievments but in such a way it promotes teamplay and can not be abused.

Phantom Master ^^ has also made some nice suggestions about title prefixes, reward chests tied to leaderboard ranks and in the same post i wrote about cosmetics tied to leaderboard ranks.

Not only rewards should be revamped to achieve this goal. Balance should be adressed accordingly, videos about how to play & builds should be released(sensotix’s videos is a good example), adding new game modes because some people just don’t like/are sick of conquest, a better competitive system should be released(for example seasons) to keep the good players in, … The list is long.

a t s e.9614:

Allow people to use their PvE skins in the mists . I think many people dont wanna start from 0 in terms of looks . In gw1 we were allowed to bring whatever we wanted in separated PvP

lol no way. Some pve guy after year of pveing comes to the mists looking x100 better than me, altho i pvped since year also? It would work IF it was like this from the begining, not after over year and time ppl invested in pvp that gave no rewards.

Michael.7382:

a t s e.9614:

Allow people to use their PvE skins in the mists . I think many people dont wanna start from 0 in terms of looks . In gw1 we were allowed to bring whatever we wanted in separated PvP

lol no way. Some pve guy after year of pveing comes to the mists looking x100 better than me, altho i pvped since year also? It would work IF it was like this from the begining, not after over year and time ppl invested in pvp that gave no rewards.

So you want to look good in an empty game mode rather than have fun playing with people?

Seems legit

So u want to give pvers everything, skins, ranks (say hello skyhammer) in easy way coz u need more ppl? Btw, why I can’t get my pvp look into pve when I step there, but pvers should can going into pvp?
I don’t comlpain on que times, more on match making. If it stays the same I will get matched with/vs even bigger bunch of newbs, but having cooler weps than I. So no thx.
BTW, games r fun when u r matched vs appropirate ppl, atm coz of the match making failure i’m stomping lowranks, so I better want better matching than next wave of newbs in pvp.

This would be two ways ofcourse: you could take pvp gear to www. At least I looked better in www then because I don’t do dungeons.

Are PVE players the ones you really want in PvP?

Sure, who else? LoL players?

thanks everyone for the feedback!

errr based on the meager amount of feedback we get, i think most of us wants more rewards, more players in sPvP.
but, do we want more players from the PvE / WvW crowd?

i can see something people expressing doubt.

@Thedenofsin
“Are PVE players the ones you really want in PvP?”
well, we would want WvW players too.
if the rewards are attractive enough for PvE players to come over, i think they would make good target practice for our sPvP players.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

if the rewards are attractive enough for PvE players to come over, i think they would make good target practice for our sPvP players.

They would also be your teammates….

Thedenofsin.7340:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

if the rewards are attractive enough for PvE players to come over, i think they would make good target practice for our sPvP players.

They would also be your teammates….

hmmm. good point.

well, everyone was new to sPvP before.
they will get better, eventually.

and i still believe we need more players for sPvP.
especially if solo arena is going to work properly, it will a lot of players.

both 5v5 and 8v8 hotjoin servers seems to be doing ok.
the servers with players playing in them are not that many, but there are people playing in them nonetheless.

as i posted before: pvp needs to get reward like weapon/armor skins usable in pve for reaching certain rank in tpvp

looking at any other games, many ppl kept trying to do pvp majorly to get those shiney weapons, titles, icons that they could show off with in the game

in the end this game is all about skins and games in generall are about thing to show off

why do ppl keep running lv 48 fractals? they are not profitable but you get amazing looking weapons that i can use as skins in pve/wvw and sit in LA and look awesome; meanwhile, theoretically speaking of course, i could be rank 1 in tpvp yet i would look like completely lv 1 scrub in LA; nobody (outside of small community) would even know that i am rank 1

yes ppl pvp for fun, but i promise you majority still want shinies they want to brag with and look good with

another problem is: you neither lv up nor get loot from pvp (lol @ unidentified dyes)

why should i pvp when i could go to wvw, pvp there while lving up and actually getting loot