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Posted by: Reflexmonkey.1943

Reflexmonkey.1943

not coming back till they nerf thieves burst, regen rangers, shatter mesmers and actually balance classes so their not getting melted with literally no reaction time and with all the cc why even bother? i can understand if you’re glass cannon and you get caught by a 100blades warrior; but that shouldn’t instantly kill you for one mistake. -.- and why restrict professions to one or two viable builds? i know you’re going to fix this but cmon. if you wanna be great you need to be faster, smarter, better! MORE CONTENT and more description of what the skill actually does. thanks bye

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Posted by: Sanis.1096

Sanis.1096

my team stopped playing back in late november and i just patched the game and looking at all these changes and after few tournament games all i can do is /facepalm… are you even trying ANET?

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Posted by: gwawer.9805

gwawer.9805

bro do you even balance?

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Posted by: Reflexmonkey.1943

Reflexmonkey.1943

I know the game isn’t designed around 1v1, simply meaning if you specialize in one build you’ll get destroyed by another. but what happens when you have a profession that dominates another profession no matter what build their using? is that part of the 1v1 design? seems rather unbalanced than skill.

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Posted by: Razor.6392

Razor.6392

Out of that list only mesmers are op.

Level 60 pvp
Ele & thief main (full ascended)
Down with the braindead faceroll classes.

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Posted by: TGSlasher.1458

TGSlasher.1458

Now eles are getting nerfed for hiding in their “we don’t get 1 shot anymore” build.

Slasher Sladorian – Charr Warrior – [DECM] | Sea of Sorrows
Sophea Sladorian – Charr Ranger – [DECM] | Sea of Sorrows
Sophea Of Elements – Human Elementalist – [DECM] | Sea of Sorrows

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

NevirSayDie.6235

If Anet tried to push balance changes out super fast, eles and rangers would have been buffed early (they are now considered two of the best professions). That would have been…ill-advised.

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Posted by: Gallrvaghn.4921

Gallrvaghn.4921

Now eles are getting nerfed for hiding in their “we don’t get 1 shot anymore” build.

i LOLed but it’s sad that this is pretty much true.

“The boss you just killed respawns ten minutes
later. It doesn’t care that I’m there.”

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Posted by: Rhaj.5261

Rhaj.5261

Agree

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

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Posted by: plasmacutter.2709

plasmacutter.2709

Now eles are getting nerfed for hiding in their “we don’t get 1 shot anymore” build.

i LOLed but it’s sad that this is pretty much true.

ANets devs all play thieves I think.

Despite a MUCH greater dependence upon trait synergy than thieves, you NEVER see threads like this one in the ele forums.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/The-thief-and-its-gameplay-Your-feedback

Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

I’ll use my refund money to register my car. Btw, i’m destroying all my gold, you’re not getting it.

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Posted by: Razor.6392

Razor.6392

Now eles are getting nerfed for hiding in their “we don’t get 1 shot anymore” build.

i LOLed but it’s sad that this is pretty much true.

ANets devs all play thieves I think.

Despite a MUCH greater dependence upon trait synergy than thieves, you NEVER see threads like this one in the ele forums.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/The-thief-and-its-gameplay-Your-feedback

Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

I’ll use my refund money to register my car. Btw, i’m destroying all my gold, you’re not getting it.

can i have the rest of your stuff

Level 60 pvp
Ele & thief main (full ascended)
Down with the braindead faceroll classes.

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Posted by: NEEDNOTWORRY.6752

NEEDNOTWORRY.6752

bro do you even balance?

hahaha good juan

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Posted by: Blakey.5670

Blakey.5670

The thiefs and mesmers is what im worried about, you just dont get a fair fight with them. They’re just easy cheesy.
Bunker eles might be hard to bring down, but their damage isn’t that great.

Behellzebab – lvl 80 pvp egineer

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Posted by: Ayestes.1273

Ayestes.1273

The burst in general does need to be toned down a bit, but in most cases it isn’t nearly as bad as people claim. Downed state and dodge rolls mitigate a lot of the potential direct dmg burst builds have. Not to mention having nearly any bulk in either your profession or attribute set let’s you survive burst rotations.

The only thing beyond that is a little too strong is Ele sustain. Then every class, including the ones that get nerfed need to have all their gunk fixed so they have 5 to 6 viable builds. The balance in this game is a lot closer then most people seem to think though. There are ways to beat nearly everything as long as you have the knowledge, reflexes, and decision making to deal with it.

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Tirydia – Scrapper

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Posted by: nerva.7940

nerva.7940

what the hell is wrong with regen rangers? they actually take some skill to play and unlike eles, they get wtfblownup when immobilized or stunned.

shatter mesmers, BS macro thieves and d/d eles are completely out of hand though.

Ikiro – 80 Ranger
Umie – 80 Guardian
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgLbWtvtzdU0Ho0zto6VnTQ

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

Thiefs are not OP. My goodness, they can actually at times be a liability at high end play.

I’m sorry they give you trouble. They dont scare me much. Good thiefs are of course deadly, and of course everyone dies to them, but they are easy to kill, easy to pressure. Good eles are way more troubling.

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Posted by: Epilog.2168

Epilog.2168

Feels like everyone just doesn’t want to die to any class ever…just say it so we can move on already

Instead of complaining about all the other classes just master your own, and learn to counter every other class

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Posted by: Caino.7130

Caino.7130

Epilog….people like you stop games from progressing. Instead of the old “Go l2p” and saying that people don’t want to die ever….which NOBODY has said:
How about you just admit the game is a bit broke….this is not Call Of Duty on hardcore mode, nobody should be dying in under 2 seconds—(Looks to 100b/shatter mes/BS)

To have a game with 1 game type….only 2 types of pvp trait selection (glass or bunker) ((Please don’t give any crap about “balance spec’s”, the damage reduction difference between 900 toughness and 1400 is pathetic))

[note: I consider 1400 toughness mid range]

Is this a great game? Yes
Can it get better? It bloody well better do, if Anet let a game like this go to waste I wont be happy

rank 500+ Piken / Rank 60 PvP
Warrior – Teined
Guardian – Nomoreroomformyname

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

Huh?

I’ve been playing MMOs for over 10 years and this is probably one of the (if not THE) most balanced games in terms of PvP.

Now, GW2 is far from the best PvP game I’ve played, but the class balance is solid if nothing else.

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Posted by: glennyrd.1308

glennyrd.1308

My tPvP team split because of the lack of balance in this game. They’re off playing dota 2 and SC2. They were so much quicker with balance updates in gw1 than gw2. I don’t know what’s going on, but a lot of people are losing faith.

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Posted by: glennyrd.1308

glennyrd.1308

Huh?

I’ve been playing MMOs for over 10 years and this is probably one of the (if not THE) most balanced games in terms of PvP.

Now, GW2 is far from the best PvP game I’ve played, but the class balance is solid if nothing else.

You obviously didn’t play GW1. It was extremely well balanced.

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Posted by: Nuka Cola.8520

Nuka Cola.8520

regen rangers? WHAAAAAAAAAT? If this is a problem to you lol. Thief and D/D ele are the only problem. Thief isn’t exactly a problem because they can 13k 1hit you but because stealth is broken as is. Ele… well i think everyone knows why. Shatter mez can kill fast and is known as ‘OP’ by many but to kill fast you have to be glassy which isn’t hard to take down if you pressure it and don’t attack clones like a dummy

Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

To be honest I agree with OP partially. Balance changes are way too slow. How long do we have to play in a world where elementalists are just utterly dominant before we get some changes. It is getting boring now. You would of thought that such a severe OP class would be bought down more urgently than what it has done.

Character: Henry rank million/Duke Henry
Necromancer/Casual Warrior
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Posted by: nerva.7940

nerva.7940

5 months isnt long enough obviously. i’ll bet anyone the 26th patch will have paltry amounts of prof balancing. but i think deep down we all know this.

Ikiro – 80 Ranger
Umie – 80 Guardian
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgLbWtvtzdU0Ho0zto6VnTQ

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Posted by: Gallrvaghn.4921

Gallrvaghn.4921

5 months isnt long enough obviously. i’ll bet anyone the 26th patch will have paltry amounts of prof balancing. but i think deep down we all know this.

I’m with you man. My expectations are not that high with the upcoming patch.

Color me pessimist. :P

“The boss you just killed respawns ten minutes
later. It doesn’t care that I’m there.”

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Posted by: nerva.7940

nerva.7940

u know what the funny thing is? they keep saying (and showing) how they only wanna do incremental buffs/nerfs. but when is the ACTUAL balancing going to occur? things have been the SAME, even after incremental balancing. theyve eliminated exploits like the guardian mace, sigil stuff, and double shattering mesmers – but these arent balancing moves. theyre exploit fixes. so when is this aoe nerf gonna hit live? when are profs going to get more viable builds, which is their current priority? to me it seems like it all needs to overlap in some patch and make a huge mess of things, OR it just isnt going to happen, period.

soooo…when??

Ikiro – 80 Ranger
Umie – 80 Guardian
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgLbWtvtzdU0Ho0zto6VnTQ

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Posted by: Nikkle.4013

Nikkle.4013

u know what the funny thing is? they keep saying (and showing) how they only wanna do incremental buffs/nerfs. but when is the ACTUAL balancing going to occur? things have been the SAME, even after incremental balancing. theyve eliminated exploits like the guardian mace, sigil stuff, and double shattering mesmers – but these arent balancing moves. theyre exploit fixes. so when is this aoe nerf gonna hit live? when are profs going to get more viable builds, which is their current priority? to me it seems like it all needs to overlap in some patch and make a huge mess of things, OR it just isnt going to happen, period.

soooo…when??

At launch of the game it was the consensus among the community that ele’s were near the bottom on the list of good pvp classes. After the fixes to rtl, lightning whip, magnetic leap and fire grab ele’s are now op. It’s hard to judge the strength of a build/profession when bugs exist. Imagine if they nerfed the guardian because people were abusing the mace bug. They probably would of had to reverted those changes after fixing the bug. It would be nice if they could roll out bug fixes quicker but sometimes bugs are very complicated.

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

yes, bugs oftne influence what is, and isnt op.
Right now, necros are enjoying the no give points/rally bug.

which is annoying but not entirely gamebreaking as necros arent an OP class.
Still, they really need to fix it.

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Posted by: plasmacutter.2709

plasmacutter.2709

The thiefs and mesmers is what im worried about, you just dont get a fair fight with them. They’re just easy cheesy.
Bunker eles might be hard to bring down, but their damage isn’t that great.

QFT.

if you are calling it “overpowered” for something which reaches only 17k hp in FULL TANK GEAR to tickle you for less than a single stack of bleed, you are part of “the skillless many” and deserve your rightful death against a build whose only “bursts” are 4k minus, on 45 second plus cool downs, and must be “set up”.

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Posted by: Archaon.6245

Archaon.6245

The thiefs and mesmers is what im worried about, you just dont get a fair fight with them. They’re just easy cheesy.
Bunker eles might be hard to bring down, but their damage isn’t that great.

QFT.

if you are calling it “overpowered” for something which reaches only 17k hp in FULL TANK GEAR to tickle you for less than a single stack of bleed, you are part of “the skillless many” and deserve your rightful death against a build whose only “bursts” are 4k minus, on 45 second plus cool downs, and must be “set up”.

Strange…actually bunker guardians can have less than 17k hp and outlive every single 24k+ hp war anyday, hp pool means pretty much nothing into a bunker spec, all you need is healing, boon stacking and cond removal…and bunker eles have tons of all of those + high mobility + more dmg than a bunker guardian…yes they’re clearly ok..

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Posted by: Jackums.3496

Jackums.3496

Ranger and Mesmer? No.

Thief? Yes. Though not the damage. Just do something about the constant stealth. It’s not the power that’s a problem, it’s the fact that it’s nigh impossible to evade or counter the burst when the only thing you can do is spam AoE and hope it hits.

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Posted by: Moderator.2608

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“I quit” threads are not allowed on the forums as they are not conducive to creating a friendly community nor do they have room for constructive discussion. As such, this thread has been closed.