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Posted by: Liewec.2896

Liewec.2896

in pve, a new exploit allows for players to earn gold faster than they should,
in pvp, players have been exploiting spectator and team select for 5 months.

blix has already had a dev response stating that a fix is coming next patch.
spvp has’nt had any such luxury.

so anet…
do we really need to get your precious economy involved before you’ll fix exploits?
is there honestly no change coming to spectator/team select next patch?!

edit: for anyone who came here just to point out that you don’t play hot join, or say that “its just hotjoin” just don’t bother, i’ve rebutted that over and over.
and the answer? hotjoin should be FUN, its not about winning or losing but the enjoyment of the match, as it used to be back in the haydays of 8v8 before team select and spectator.
there is nothing fun about exploiters rigging every match into a one sided spawn camp.

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Posted by: hihey.1075

hihey.1075

It’s hotjoin. Who cares about that.

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Posted by: Dave.2536

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Why does the spectator exploit bother you so much?

In particular, why is it more bothersome than 4v5 and team stacking?

Here’s the sad truth to this: hotjoin is a sacrificial lamb, given to these exploiters so they don’t farm rank by AFK/semi-AFKing rated matches.

Anything that tips this balance, even slightly reducing the reward, risks tipping the scales and setting the meta back to leeching arena loss rewards.

Content in this game will always seem
to be faceroll at the high levels, because it
needs to be accessible to the casuals and bads.

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Posted by: Chicago Jack.5647

Chicago Jack.5647

It’s hotjoin. Who cares about that.

The new players playing the game.

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Posted by: Shockwave.1230

Shockwave.1230

It’s hotjoin. Who cares about that.

The new players playing the game.

^ The issue doesn’t impact me, but if we’re trying to grow the playerbase, this should be the top priority

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Posted by: hihey.1075

hihey.1075

It’s hotjoin. Who cares about that.

The new players playing the game.

If a “new player playing the game” has any willingness to improve, then he will hopefully spectate those players that “farm” him and he will learn something about their builds and how to play. And he could join the “better” team once it reaches 4 players.
That’s actually what I did when I was still new to the game: by spectating the people who kitten d me I was able to understand some basic stuff (like thieves, for example).

If he doesn’t want to improve, then what’s the point?

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Posted by: Shockwave.1230

Shockwave.1230

It’s hotjoin. Who cares about that.

The new players playing the game.

If a “new player playing the game” has any willingness to improve, then he will hopefully spectate those players that “farm” him and he will learn something about their builds and how to play. And he could join the “better” team once it reaches 4 players.
That’s actually what I did when I was still new to the game: by spectating the people who kitten d me I was able to understand some basic stuff (like thieves, for example).

If he doesn’t want to improve, then what’s the point?

This really has nothing to do with thread discussion. People are discussing how the hotjoin imbalances don’t cater to casuals and new players, therefore pvp numbers are less likely to grow.

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Posted by: ellesee.8297

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Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

These are issues of different magnitudes! Hotjoins aren’t that serious! And you shouldn’t take them seriously! Meanwhile people are actually making money while farming! Anet doesn’t like that!

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Posted by: dylan.5409

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Far too dismissive imo; its all hotjoin outside of organized full team comp’s in voip.
As such, the impact these problems have on enjoyment of the game is a serious issue and needs to addressed in both hotjoin and solo q

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Posted by: Duran.3196

Duran.3196

in pve, a new exploit allows for players to earn gold faster than they should,
in pvp, players have been exploiting spectator and team select for 5 months.

blix has already had a dev response stating that a fix is coming next patch.
spvp has’nt had any such luxury.

so anet…
do we really need to get your precious economy involved before you’ll fix exploits?
is there honestly no change coming to spectator/team select next patch?!

edit: for anyone who came here just to point out that you don’t play hot join, or say that “its just hotjoin” just don’t bother, i’ve rebutted that over and over.
and the answer? hotjoin should be FUN, its not about winning or losing but the enjoyment of the match, as it used to be back in the haydays of 8v8 before team select and spectator.
there is nothing fun about exploiters rigging every match into a one sided spawn camp.

To defend Anet for once, spectator “exploit” got a response (no solution though).

The only real problem about blix is the toxicity from BOTH sides, and according to the post thats the main reason they address this.
ppl go there to intentionally complete the event, not because they want to complete it themselves but in order to stop the farm zerg and then , when they succeed in doing so they mimimi. In fact I do not think that it is a real exploit.

But what really annoys me is there, the spectator mode abuse (I wouldnt really call it exploit in the sense its meant in games as well), causes toxicity as well and directly damages players. Still cause its PvE gets addressed first

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