Guild Wars 2

A little background,

im a melee type guy, i love getting in your face and bashing it to death.

- Burst cannon
- High mobility
- Fast combo rotation ( like a rogue in WoW )
- decent survivability
- dont suck in duels? ( how warriors in WoW can’t win duels )
- Combo rotations don’t get dull after long hours of play
- High skill high rewards

Class im looking into are
- Ele
- Thief
- Engi
- Ranger

i was thinking ele? but i heard their a caster, range type.. and then i looked into thief, but then i hear its more of a +1 style.. ( bummed about this, cuz i like to hold my own and rogue playstyle is what i love to play )

gw2 is downloading atm, so i cant research myself.. and i know play what i like.. but im a casual player.. so i wont be putting much time until i get hook into gw2.

Btw, i dont have hot.. gna wait till it goes on sale

Ty!

MMM… You could play thief and also do well. Just don’t expect to sit and tank damage X). If you play a thief well you’ll be valuable anywhere.

Engi, right now, is about being a bruiser and supporting your team.

You’ll need HoT for elite specs

Play a Revenant… You’ll love it in PvP/PvE

This guy makes some cool Rev GW2 videos

mrauls.6519:

Play a Revenant… You’ll love it in PvP/PvE

This guy makes some cool Rev GW2 videos

Btw, i dont have hot.. gna wait till it goes on sale

Really though, the class you want is Rev. Get HoT as soon as possible.

Even if you are trying to get into other classes, most of them run off HoT elite specs.

Warrior suits what you’re looking too.

lmperdigao.2567:

Warrior suits what you’re looking too.

warrior seems dull to me, typical warriors just like on every other mmorpg.

Thief.

If you master thief, you can master any class.

decided to tryout ele, class is new.. havent seen it in any other mmorpg. thanks all for suggestions! might try thief next

Hell, most of the classes can go melee and burst, while having decent survivability. You just gotta know how to build them properly, tho in the end, almost everything comes down to skill. Speaking from a perspective of someone who owns the expansion.
Ele – used to have one of the coolest DPS builds, which used very fast rotations that you had to adopt yourself and counter the enemy. It kinda sucks now, as Anet dropped the ball and nerfed bunker ele, but this ended up hurting glass cannon ele more than the bunker one. I would tell you to get used to Anet’s terrible balancing, but you’re coming from WoW and we all know how amazing blizzard is at balancing, right? (it’s a joke for those who aren’t familiar with WoW). Search fresh air elementalist if you are interested.
Necro – zerker(glass cannon) variant of necro hurts a ton, but it’s currently not very good as it lacks mobility and has some long cast times.
Warrior – warrior is very strong as a physical damage dealer, but it’s pretty straight forward and gets boring after some time. At least for me.
Thief – bad thieves are a common sight in this game and you can mop the floor with them, however good thieves are a nightmare. This is even more true for very good thieves as they are more about picking the right time to burst your enemy, rather than what buttons to press. The class is much deeper than it seems on the first glance, especially as you are made of paper and you don’t have that much of sustain. Stealth and dodges are your best friend.
Revenant – revenant is a monster when played right. It takes some time to learn the basics, but once you are through, expect to destroy ppl. Won’t write much because there are lots of videos of how good rev is.
Ranger – can be very bursty while having good sustain with greatsword burst build, but it has a high skill cap and doesn’t work in high end pvp. At least not with the effectivenes of other dps classes.
Engi – similar story to ele. Static discharge engineer had very decent burst, but died out with the expansions.

One last thing. The patches come every 2-3 months and balance can change as well as strengths of different classes. But I already said that Anet is pretty bad at balancing, or better said, it takes time for them to actually do any proper balancing, as they only do small nerfs/buffs at a time.

Try engineer – scrapper. Good sustain and good damage.

Jay.3409:

decided to tryout ele, class is new.. havent seen it in any other mmorpg. thanks all for suggestions! might try thief next

You come from WoW..and still fail to realize the biggest Taboo in MMO:
Never play a hybrid class ; you’ll be the subject of constant nerfs and irrelevant buffs……forever.

I mean c’mon, you must know all about Shamans and Paladins from WoW, do not make an ele, this is heartfelt suggestion from somebody who spent 6k hours on ele.

Hybrid classes are always subject to harsh nerfs in MMO and always end up being completely useless as time pass by; like in every MMO when you reach the bottom they’ll give you a couple of OP trait to let you play with for 5-6 months..then they nerf those traits on top of what you had before, making you even worst than before you received the buffs.

And one last thing : with Anet most buffs on ele are nothing more than reverted nerfs LOL

Jay.3409:

A little background,
- Burst cannon
- High mobility
- Fast combo rotation ( like a rogue in WoW )
- decent survivability
- dont suck in duels? ( how warriors in WoW can’t win duels )
- Combo rotations don’t get dull after long hours of play
- High skill high rewards

This sounds so much power rev…you need both time and skill to use it to 100% but this is top must have build in any pro-team. Learning this class will be hard and you kinda can’t face tank every thing (face tanking is never considered good play no matter what you play… glass cannon or bunker build in GW2. There is DODGE for reason!). And sadly to say forget about ele;/…no hope for class for at least 1 more season.

Rev fills most of your requirements.

Ele is heal bot.
Thief is worse than sub rogues begin of cata/mop expansions (remember when nobody played them and their dmg could be completely ignored? yeaa….)
Engi is doesn’t have great mobility – it is more of a bruiser fighter.
Ranger is healer with pet doing all the job.

Air atunement is a good source for damage builds and Elementalist/Tempest still do very good damage, Cynz.9437…. thief u need to know how to troll target with a gimmick build, issue with thiefs comes from between the chair and the computer, and most play thief like they are playing a warrior with stealth….

With thief there is a rendering issue where a group can gank with delayed rendering to the oponent, i think it is a rpetty valid tactic tho, it is fun to get surprised by that.

Power Ranger does alot of range damage on single target, Rangers need to know about LoS and position to not get hitted by players with gap closers, altough a good design for ranger would be less easy damage and more CC on single target.

Aeolus.3615:

Air atunement is a good source for damage builds and Elementalist/Tempest still do very good damage, Cynz.9437…. thief u need to know how to troll target with a gimmick build, issue with thiefs comes from between the chair and the computer, and most play thief like they are playing a warrior with stealth….

With thief there is a rendering issue where a group can gank with delayed rendering to the oponent, i think it is a rpetty valid tactic tho, it is fun to get surprised by that.

Power Ranger does alot of range damage on single target, Rangers need to know about LoS and position to not get hitted by players with gap closers, altough a good design for ranger would be less easy damage and more CC on single target.

God, i love all those people that call other bad because they have different opinion. Yeah thief is sooo great that every thief main switched to revs in tourneys. According to you even top players have l2p issue eh? Thief is ok vs average/bad players, vs good players/especially coordinated team you are useless, if your team can’t win team fights.

Cynz.9437:

Aeolus.3615:

Air atunement is a good source for damage builds and Elementalist/Tempest still do very good damage, Cynz.9437…. thief u need to know how to troll target with a gimmick build, issue with thiefs comes from between the chair and the computer, and most play thief like they are playing a warrior with stealth….

With thief there is a rendering issue where a group can gank with delayed rendering to the oponent, i think it is a rpetty valid tactic tho, it is fun to get surprised by that.

Power Ranger does alot of range damage on single target, Rangers need to know about LoS and position to not get hitted by players with gap closers, altough a good design for ranger would be less easy damage and more CC on single target.

God, i love all those people that call other bad because they have different opinion. Yeah thief is sooo great that every thief main switched to revs in tourneys. According to you even top players have l2p issue eh? Thief is ok vs average/bad players, vs good players/especially coordinated team you are useless, if your team can’t win team fights.

1st: im not calling bad anyone, just sayign people want to relly to much on class damage output.

2nd: spvp is a bit a diferent talk, while balance team is awfull, and pvp team is forced to remove stats from it… its very bursty that some classes with the actual sats avaliable are very dificult to play…

3rd: OP said it is used to thief alikes, as much thief is having issues arround other classes gimmick, OP does not own HoT, for sure he will try rev when he got HoT.

Aeolus.3615:

Cynz.9437:

Aeolus.3615:

Air atunement is a good source for damage builds and Elementalist/Tempest still do very good damage, Cynz.9437…. thief u need to know how to troll target with a gimmick build, issue with thiefs comes from between the chair and the computer, and most play thief like they are playing a warrior with stealth….

With thief there is a rendering issue where a group can gank with delayed rendering to the oponent, i think it is a rpetty valid tactic tho, it is fun to get surprised by that.

Power Ranger does alot of range damage on single target, Rangers need to know about LoS and position to not get hitted by players with gap closers, altough a good design for ranger would be less easy damage and more CC on single target.

God, i love all those people that call other bad because they have different opinion. Yeah thief is sooo great that every thief main switched to revs in tourneys. According to you even top players have l2p issue eh? Thief is ok vs average/bad players, vs good players/especially coordinated team you are useless, if your team can’t win team fights.

1st: im not calling bad anyone, just sayign people want to relly to much on class damage output.

2nd: spvp is a bit a diferent talk, while balance team is awfull, and pvp team is forced to remove stats from it… its very bursty that some classes with the actual sats avaliable are very dificult to play…

3rd: OP said it is used to thief alikes, as much thief is having issues arround other classes gimmick, OP does not own HoT, for sure he will try rev when he got HoT.

Orly?

Aeolus.3615:

blah blah…. issue with thiefs comes from between the chair and the computer …. blah blah

Interesting how magically other classes don’t have that “issue”.

Jay.3409:

- Burst cannon
- High mobility
- Fast combo rotation ( like a rogue in WoW )
- decent survivability
- dont suck in duels? ( how warriors in WoW can’t win duels )
- Combo rotations don’t get dull after long hours of play
- High skill high rewards

What you are describing fits the revenant perfectly but thief will do while you don’t have HoT. In GW2 thieves are more gankers and backstabbers with superior mobility, and revenant is more of the combat rogue type you are describing. The closest thematic equivalent of revenant in WoW would be death knight, although the source of their powers is vastly different.

Despite Supreme’s endless negativity, ele is a good choice as well. Just don’t expect to PvP with a DPS build in the near future. We’ll probably be waiting on the next expansion for that to happen.

Cynz.9437:

Aeolus.3615:

Cynz.9437:

Aeolus.3615:

Air atunement is a good source for damage builds and Elementalist/Tempest still do very good damage, Cynz.9437…. thief u need to know how to troll target with a gimmick build, issue with thiefs comes from between the chair and the computer, and most play thief like they are playing a warrior with stealth….

With thief there is a rendering issue where a group can gank with delayed rendering to the oponent, i think it is a rpetty valid tactic tho, it is fun to get surprised by that.

Power Ranger does alot of range damage on single target, Rangers need to know about LoS and position to not get hitted by players with gap closers, altough a good design for ranger would be less easy damage and more CC on single target.

God, i love all those people that call other bad because they have different opinion. Yeah thief is sooo great that every thief main switched to revs in tourneys. According to you even top players have l2p issue eh? Thief is ok vs average/bad players, vs good players/especially coordinated team you are useless, if your team can’t win team fights.

1st: im not calling bad anyone, just sayign people want to relly to much on class damage output.

2nd: spvp is a bit a diferent talk, while balance team is awfull, and pvp team is forced to remove stats from it… its very bursty that some classes with the actual sats avaliable are very dificult to play…

3rd: OP said it is used to thief alikes, as much thief is having issues arround other classes gimmick, OP does not own HoT, for sure he will try rev when he got HoT.

Orly?

Aeolus.3615:

blah blah…. issue with thiefs comes from between the chair and the computer …. blah blah

Interesting how magically other classes don’t have that “issue”.

They do, for some reason builds tend to converge in the sub optimal traitlines and end in builds that are basacly copy pastas of each others per class, the actual metas from those classes are better suited for the bursty meta, thief is a troll mobility build i dont see many players playing thief like that wich is part of the problem to, has stats removed is, it is a bit of both.

The class you’re looking for is rev, but while you dont have HoT some alternatives are:

Power warr, full melee class with some sick combos and high damage and sustain. Also, warr is the most forgiving/simple class for starters.
Medi guard, pretty much like power warr, different playstyle, but similar pros, high burst, sustain, and noob friendly.
Power signet necro, it isnt full melee and you need to kite properly, but due to the fact that this kind of mechanic/playstyle is rly different from what you see in wow maybe you may like it. Its also the one that requires more skill from the three alternatives.

Non HoTs proffs you are looking for:
1. Power Thief has all you need with exception of Survivability. Condition Thief has much better survivability but more sustain than burst dmg and has also very easy playstyle.

2.Engineer, both condi and power.

3. Guardian: great dueling class, best survivability, nice burst, not that great mobility. Not sure about Ranger …

Just avoid Elementalist, worst profession right now. If you want to die a lot than pick one Oh, you can play tanky, support kind of elementalist and never die, but that’s not what you are looking for. Burst ele is dead.

I used to play a rogue in WoW as well.
The classes I would recommend for you (that I also play in SPvP):

Mesmer: Has everything you are looking for, except for possibly “burst cannon”. Shatter mesmer feels unique and is a lot of fun to play.

Revenant: This is basically the class you described in your post.

Keep in mind that you will get completely melted until you learn how to play. Also, you will be at a disadvantage as elite specs (HoT only) are very strong.

Mesmer sounds like what you want. If you can play the class well you are going to be a dominant player in every match. If you can’t then you can seriously hurt your team, definitely a class with one of the higher skill ceilings. Played well you are going to be kitten hard to kill unless you are running a full power burst glass cannon build.

In current meta, the class suits your need the most is mesmer.
Things can always change as meta shifts.

But if you don’t have the expansion HoT. The two classes you can play in PvP while not being too outclassed are warrior and thief. Other classes rely on HoT elite specialization a lot.

Jay, you can try out the old dagger-dagger ele build, it was an in-your face bruiser with decent mobility, great survivability, and revolved around combo usage. However, the HoT expansion put so much power-creep into the game, it just can’t really keep up now. Eles now are just heal and cleanse-bots for the people who really play the game. There are no viable dps builds for ele. If you take ele, you WILL be dissappointed when you pick up the HoT expansion.

Warrior is a great choice for bashing your face into people, and their core spec has their most important survivability trait. While warrior has simple skills, it requires just as much skill as any other class to master in gw2 (mastering a class actually requires you to know your opponent so you know what they are going to use before they even do).

Revenant is actually your ideal class it seems, as it has high mobility, great survivability, excellent burst, and is melee oriented. It is primary dps class in the pvp meta, and has some pretty op capabilities.

As others have said, however, a proper revenant build requires HoT (all pvp builds do, honestly). GW2 goes on sale relatively frequently, and you should be playing at a low-enough level for a few weeks that it should be ok to be sub-optimal. You will need a while to adjust to the pace of combat and learn your (and your opponent’s) skills.

Rev is the exact class you’re looking for.

Asside from that, try Thief and maybe War.