Guild Wars 2

they ruin solo que and any kind of team play, Delete it from the game the amount of nerfing needed will require more work than just getting rid of it totally why are their traits soo useful compared to most other classes guardian traits theres only 1 option for bunker and dps lol dps guardian you dont even think it exists well it does and its viable how about making some positive changes so we can have proper team fights again not just idiotic player versus point

all is vain

Decap engies and HS warriors have completely destroyed tPvP in this game. This is true.

Thedenofsin.7340:

all is vain

Decap engies and HS warriors have completely destroyed tPvP in this game. This is true.

please tell me how my HS zerker gs/lb warrior destroyed pvp,
are you so clueless

Problem with decap engis is not only that they have no real counter for 1v1 but they just.. decap the point too easily.
That’s something hambow, spirit ranger, necro can’t do. It really gives a huge advantage to the team because opponents have to keep 2v1ing the engi or they lose the point.

AR trait is what keeps them alive.

Decap is useless if you just leave your home and attack far point. since the rest of their the will most likely be at mid and if not that’s -1 for them in mid

Simon.3794:

Thedenofsin.7340:

all is vain

Decap engies and HS warriors have completely destroyed tPvP in this game. This is true.

please tell me how my HS zerker gs/lb warrior destroyed pvp,
are you so clueless

Double warrior bunker meta – everybody hates it, except the clueless ones who think they are awesome because they play lolwarrior. It’s hated so much that the last remaining high-rank competitive teams refuse to run it.

Thedenofsin.7340:

Simon.3794:

Thedenofsin.7340:

all is vain

Decap engies and HS warriors have completely destroyed tPvP in this game. This is true.

please tell me how my HS zerker gs/lb warrior destroyed pvp,
are you so clueless

Double warrior bunker meta – everybody hates it, except the clueless ones who think they are awesome because they play lolwarrior. It’s hated so much that the last remaining high-rank competitive teams refuse to run it.

so do i, but what does it have to do with hs warrior in general? that’s what i was asking, like how exactly my hs zerker gs/lb destoryed pvp in anyway. i dont get it.

if you ask me what i hate the most right now, condition necro, mace/sword war(more op then hambow dualing lol), s/s war, berserker stance, double endure pain, sp thief, mm necro, decap engi, spirit ranger.

Simon.3794:

Thedenofsin.7340:

Simon.3794:

Thedenofsin.7340:

all is vain

Decap engies and HS warriors have completely destroyed tPvP in this game. This is true.

please tell me how my HS zerker gs/lb warrior destroyed pvp,
are you so clueless

Double warrior bunker meta – everybody hates it, except the clueless ones who think they are awesome because they play lolwarrior. It’s hated so much that the last remaining high-rank competitive teams refuse to run it.

so do i, but what does it have to do with hs warrior in general? that’s what i was asking, like how exactly my hs zerker gs/lb destoryed pvp in anyway. i dont get it.

if you ask me what i hate the most right now, condition necro, mace/sword war(more op then hambow dualing lol), s/s war, berserker stance, double endure pain, sp thief, mm necro, decap engi, spirit ranger.

Minion master is not a good spec. Lame? Sure. But it isn’t a strong build. Meh in 1v1 and horrible otherwise.

Funny anet nerf it when its bad and yet won’t REALLY nerf spirit rangers for about a year.

And the problem of decap engis is mainly solo q. It literally does make solo q unplayable which is why alot of people quit it. There is no counter to having to 2v1 someone to succeed

Rickster.8752:

Simon.3794:

Thedenofsin.7340:

Simon.3794:

Thedenofsin.7340:

all is vain

Decap engies and HS warriors have completely destroyed tPvP in this game. This is true.

please tell me how my HS zerker gs/lb warrior destroyed pvp,
are you so clueless

Double warrior bunker meta – everybody hates it, except the clueless ones who think they are awesome because they play lolwarrior. It’s hated so much that the last remaining high-rank competitive teams refuse to run it.

so do i, but what does it have to do with hs warrior in general? that’s what i was asking, like how exactly my hs zerker gs/lb destoryed pvp in anyway. i dont get it.

if you ask me what i hate the most right now, condition necro, mace/sword war(more op then hambow dualing lol), s/s war, berserker stance, double endure pain, sp thief, mm necro, decap engi, spirit ranger.

Minion master is not a good spec. Lame? Sure. But it isn’t a strong build. Meh in 1v1 and horrible otherwise.

Funny anet nerf it when its bad and yet won’t REALLY nerf spirit rangers for about a year.

nothing i mentioned above is a good spec, only either selfish or annoying to fight against, or just faceroll noob spec, you might argue with condition necro, but this one is kinda personal opinion.

Why hambow is not in that list, because imo, hambow is actually a better spec then exp a s/s war.

you can win a bad hambow with decent effort put in but you will not win a real good hambow, which means skill comes in play, while s/s war, just completely faceroll no skill condition spamming.

if you want me to nerf hambow, i would say, remove blast finisher on hammer f1, that would remove a lot of might stacking, so it will not hit that hard.

Counter to decap engi = TEEF!

try it… they become useless

ps: all hambows are trash! <3

Thedenofsin.7340:

Simon.3794:

Thedenofsin.7340:

all is vain

Decap engies and HS warriors have completely destroyed tPvP in this game. This is true.

please tell me how my HS zerker gs/lb warrior destroyed pvp,
are you so clueless

Double warrior bunker meta – everybody hates it, except the clueless ones who think they are awesome because they play lolwarrior. It’s hated so much that the last remaining high-rank competitive teams refuse to run it.

HS zerker gs/lb warrior is diferent from HS bunker warrior. They cannot even compare to each other.
By the way teams are starting to use double Decap Engies, not double warrior bunkers.

i think the worst part about decap engi is that when i fight somebody (i’m a condi engi), regardless if i lose or win the other guy will be like “you suck noob decap engi”

ellesee.8297:

i think the worst part about decap engi is that when i fight somebody (i’m a condi engi), regardless if i lose or win the other guy will be like “you suck noob decap engi”

No the real worst part is that a build exists which doesn’t even try to kill you, in fact it doesn’t even need to kill you. It has too much of everything. AR needs to go but we said that for a year and nothing changes. I would rather they didn’t nerf the knockbacks but in hindsight maybe they could make them knockdowns instead of knockbacks. Im not solo queuing again till they fix this. So maybe in 2015 I will be back

ellesee.8297:

i think the worst part about decap engi is that when i fight somebody (i’m a condi engi), regardless if i lose or win the other guy will be like “you suck noob decap engi”

now you feel us warriors, when i was running 30 25 0 0 15 gs/axe shield, healing surge zerker war with no berserker stance and endure pain, completely useless spec.
they would still be like can’t wait for the nerf, war so noob after i killed them or not

but thanks to this, we now know how clueless is most of the community.

silentnight warrior.2714:

Thedenofsin.7340:

Simon.3794:

Thedenofsin.7340:

all is vain

Decap engies and HS warriors have completely destroyed tPvP in this game. This is true.

please tell me how my HS zerker gs/lb warrior destroyed pvp,
are you so clueless

Double warrior bunker meta – everybody hates it, except the clueless ones who think they are awesome because they play lolwarrior. It’s hated so much that the last remaining high-rank competitive teams refuse to run it.

HS zerker gs/lb warrior is diferent from HS bunker warrior. They cannot even compare to each other.
By the way teams are starting to use double Decap Engies, not double warrior bunkers.

HS is the problem. It’s the reason behind the double warrior bunker meta.
Double decap + double HS + guardian is an uber-kitten team. You can’t kill anything. It’s just garbage.

And thief is another problem. No other zerker builds are viable because they buffed thief into the ionosphere.

But of course ANet thinks they’re “fine”.

lol I just love how angry I made everyone by introducing decap engi to NA.

Btw it’ll be nerfed soon

Trololol

JinDaVikk.7291:

lol I just love how angry I made everyone by introducing decap engi to NA.

Btw it’ll be nerfed soon

Trololol

It won’t be nerfed. AR won’t be nerfed and that is the build. Because it isn’t a counter to just condi specs. All specs, like dps guard, power necro, power anything – they all rely on conditions to get close enough to the engi to kill him.

This game is totally unplayable in solo q right now because of decap engi. It is a joke.

People who say decap doesn’t work on Team Arena doesn’t know what they are talking about.

Yes it’s op, its frustrating to deal with and annoying as hell.
Only a very talented thief can deal with a decap that knows what he is doing.
Everyone in the enemy team will hate you for it. Calling you names and stuff.

I’m sure I have been called out by so many high ranked players (Include people on first page of Leaderboard) I can’t remember them all.

But rejoice, I won’t be playing as much after the patch and you probably wont see me again in Solo Queue.

Elina Juru

Elina Juru decap-sensei <3

Something I thought was funny:
I was playing against a team with a dev on it, and he was running regen banner warrior cheese – I complained that devs shouldnt run builds that make people quit the game. He said “There are plenty of hard counters for regen warrior. Decap engi does really well against it.” Bahahahahahahahahaha
So there you go – devs think that decap engi and regen war is the way things should be. Thanks for ruining a wonderful game Anet….

DeterminedPanda.1274:

Something I thought was funny:
I was playing against a team with a dev on it, and he was running regen banner warrior cheese – I complained that devs shouldnt run builds that make people quit the game. He said “There are plenty of hard counters for regen warrior. Decap engi does really well against it.” Bahahahahahahahahaha
So there you go – devs think that decap engi and regen war is the way things should be. Thanks for ruining a wonderful game Anet….

That is the thing. This game seems to just be going from bad to worse. Currently all the most powerful builds are just brain dead and so easy to pick up. The difference between a good and bad warrior? Basically non-existant. I find that they both can cause me huge problems. Same with thiefs. A good and bad decap engi is the same. It is such a simple spec to play and yet it just transforms the game.

The game is just a frustrating experience from top to bottom right now. No wonder EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE who tried to play this competitively either quit or just can’t be bothered. Myself, I gave up try harding about 8 months ago. Seriously it is such a joke right now.

Decap engis, spirit rangers, condi necros, bunker guardians, warriors of all kinds, about 3 thief specs, a couple of mesmer specs and even some ele specs. The amount of brainless stuff is absurd. And what can we expect in the next patch? Apparently no nerfs to all the passives. The power creeped passives which put this game in the dirt. AR, HS, dhuumfire, etc etc etc.

I just don’t believe it will ever get better. I expect staff ele to become a thing. Which is more total brainlessness. Spam 8 AoEs on a point ! Hurray for skilled play! It is ridicuous. I could teach my granny to play staff ele if it was powerful.

This game hasnt failed due to features, or anything of the sort.

It is balance. And by balance I mean lame-stuff which is zero fun to fight against.

The good thing about the decap engi is that the people are not running all condition damage. The people start to adjust and try to counter that build.
I guess this is also a reason why we see eles or mesmers back in the game. Before the decap engi I saw 1 ele per day. Now I have games with 2+ eles.

The bad thing about the decap engi is that AR will not be nerfed for the next 3 month because it is not an issue for ANet.

Rickster.8752:

And the problem of decap engis is mainly solo q. It literally does make solo q unplayable which is why alot of people quit it. There is no counter to having to 2v1 someone to succeed

Its a matter of the build you are playing. The builds that people play today cant handle them too well but there are certain builds that would make these engies wish they didn’t even try.

The glasscannon power builds are able to kill them. But you can not run a glasscannon build because the OP warrior is still waiting for you.

Nah pistol whip is what annoys me when i play burst. Warriors, i just out run them.

Decap engi can (Sometimes) be coutered by m/s – lb condition war but you must be way better than him, hope to have fences on point (Otherwise you should run triple stability being way weaker to other specs) and for sure never ever move from close…i got out 30 secs to help a mate killing banner war (Yeah, banner war at gy…so kittening long stuff) and engi was already at close. Just fill him up with condis when around 1/3 hp as soon as he has healing turret on cd and maybe, just maybe, you can keep the point and kill him if he’s bad enough (Considering even the worst noob on earth could be a problem when playing decap if you’re running a not “decap countering” spec)

Danto went decap engi (Just for the lulz) last night, very first time he tried engi, not even went hj first…he also managed to decap and fully cap far vs average ppl (50+) and (His words) “I was reading about nutritional properties of hard boiled eggs while playing” so….yeah….

Nerf AR and all will be fine.

RaZaC.1963:

Nerf AR and all will be fine.

Ugh. Decap engi. I never thought that a trollesque aspect of the engi would make it to competitive PvP.

I kinda wish the build could go to hell so I could stop being insulted with the ‘n’ word telling I’m a bunker/decap engi while I’m having random fun with dual pistols.

I play eng, guardian or thief . I don’t find Decap Engi so OP and i don’t play it more. Ok , you can “stay” on a point for a long but it depends on opponent team coordination. If other teams play well you can not kill nobody with decap build and you die quite often. For me power condi engi or berserker engi with hgh are much more stronger , i win much more with these builds than with decap

Lordrosicky.5813:

No wonder EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE who tried to play this competitively either quit or just can’t be bothered.

Yes, there are broken builds in this game. Yes, fighting Decap engies, HS warriors and buttonspam rangers/thieves isn’t fun. But no. Not every competetive player has quit. I know many of them and it is possible to overcome all these builds with the right amount of skill and cooperation.

I agree that GW2 isn’t very balanced at times and it can cause frustration but as somebody who’s played PvP in other MMO’s, I can safely say it’s much better here than in most other games. If you time your dodges, use your skills smart and work together to focus objectives, you can do anything.

PierPiero.9142:

I play eng, guardian or thief . I don’t find Decap Engi so OP and i don’t play it more. Ok , you can “stay” on a point for a long but it depends on opponent team coordination. If other teams play well you can not kill nobody with decap build and you die quite often. For me power condi engi or berserker engi with hgh are much more stronger , i win much more with these builds than with decap

Confirmed: This guy has no clue about engi. I’m sorry if this may sounds a bit rude but it’s true and i’m tired of this kind of ppl because a-net tends to make stupid balance changes due to whining and/or ppl without any experience making stupid suggestions on the forums. Power/Berserker engi isn’t viable in any way. Maybe you’re a na-guy, who knows. Otherwise your rating has to be really terrible if you can successfuly run a zerker engi.

A decap engi doesn’t have to kill anyone. The broken part of it is his durability (in combination with the kb). He can survive any 1vs1 (most of them time with ease) and even hold a 2vs1 for a insane amount of time if played correctly (and honestly….most of them are trash…). The problem isn’t even the “bunkering” part of this build. It’s the fact that he can decap and cap a point in a ridiculous short amount of time.

There’s literally no build which can kill this kind of engi in a 1vs1 (if played decently) so you have at least to spend two ppl going for him. Otherwise he will just decap and cap the point. So if you don’t want to lose your closepoint you have to spare at least 2 ppl going for him which leads to a disadvantage in any other fight going on at this time.

In addition this build is insanely easy to play and easy to nerf. They should actually hotfix this (but it’ll may take months for such any easy decision….). Remove or at least nerf AR.

I don’t care what others can say to defend this class. I only know each time anyday I go to do my daily (Solo Q scenario), 5 times i get Skyhammer and 5 times i get at least 2 engys that CAMP people, pulling them and immobilizing over glasses or simply knocking them out (yeah okay… also horde of necros spamming fear, warrior passive fear, mesmer Tc/GS 5# pulling down from stealth – if well executed you dont even see them -, even thieves using Scorpion Wire – bad trolls are bad -… but that’a another story and wouldn’t be enough even with 10 pages of complaints, but the Engy win over all in this scenario).
The decapping is too unpredictable. If other team run 2 engys in Kyhlo or Temple or wherever the point is small sized, it’s impossible to hold on. Yeah i can run double stability but then I have to sacrifice survivability Moreover as guard i have lotsa troubles with a decap engy even in team, very often it ends up i run alone in mid and have to endless 1 vs 1 with warriors or get just bursted by 3 meanwhile engy yeah cap far (maybe..), but then other ppl lose close. Its annoying as game scheme to relate to, expecially when engies just come in and go straight to Far not caring about team composition nor saying anything. ( It even appear so brainless to be embarassing). Maybe i’m the worst nab of the universe but i find all this kitten difficoult to relate to and horribly broken. Moreover i dont feel to totally revert my build to antibuild vs a single class and then getting powned by the other 4.
And then when i complain I just hear the sentence ’’Yeah, ok then reroll engy you too or warrior", in other words: play lame vs lame. Great..
It only seems to me a black hole..