i would prefer to remove the invul from scrapper to fix it ( the passive trait. if you wan’t to bring the skill instead you are free to do ) and fix slip shoes ( all run in circle to exploit the proc, which can’t be dodged. and still has not be fixed ).
Self regulating defenses is a core engi trait not a scrappers. I would hate to see core engi being nerfed ( the trait exists for years) especially while elite specs are so strong.
true, but anet should balance thinking about f2p.
HoT is meant to have all elite classes into spvp ( why? cause it’s a fact. you will never see a meta without elite spec ), so nerfing the base one is fine too.
At least Anet should work on f2p account and spvp, creating something to enable elite specs for em too.
It’s pointless to me talking about engineers and scrappers, cause scrapper is the new engineer.
The Baseline Game is ‘Free To Play’ now that the game has moved on.
Seriously: how can people complain that what they are getting for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING isn’t enough.
Jumping from: ‘You need the latest expansion to have the most powerful builds’ to ’It’s pay to win’ is BS.
If it was pay to win they’d be individual powerful items you could only get by spending real money – that’s Pay To Win.
I agree that Guild Wars 2 is NOT Free To Play – it’s just the baseline game that is – really is there anyone who cares about the game even a little bit that doesn’t understand that.
However Guild Wars 2 is most certainly not a Pay To Win game.
I think he is correct online.1278… Condi reaper and Rev will rule now the game! Ele is garbage now, no mater how good you are, I beat you up with my condi Reaper now very easy!
But why ppl are so negative against warrior?! They have lots of condi+burst dmg, you just didn’t want to learn it… I battled many condi warrior, very good ones with my condi reaper. The difference is that Reaper has about 3 good low timed skill that teleports condition onto enemy, so if you fighting against a condi Reaper, you better not be condi to, ’cause your condis end up on you!
Meta Condi Reaper in season 2, they will be hardcore!
And yes, GW2 is play to win game:
1. PvP needs elite spec
2. WvW needs elite spec
3. Raids need elite spec
4. Pve does not need elite spec
1-2-3 if you don’t have elite spec you risc to be left alone, or kicked from good pre-made team, good raid team, because ppl can find good players with elite spec.
When I see a Necro or Guardian in PvP I consider them a joke, when I see them in raid.. oh no! I don’t see them in raid, nobody invites them, or kick…
Updating my list, based on theorycrafting and experience playing as and fighting against these professions. Specs won’t be specified but should be pretty obvious.
The Baseline Game is ‘Free To Play’ now that the game has moved on.
Seriously: how can people complain that what they are getting for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING isn’t enough.
Jumping from: ‘You need the latest expansion to have the most powerful builds’ to ’It’s pay to win’ is BS.
If it was pay to win they’d be individual powerful items you could only get by spending real money – that’s Pay To Win.
I agree that Guild Wars 2 is NOT Free To Play – it’s just the baseline game that is – really is there anyone who cares about the game even a little bit that doesn’t understand that.
However Guild Wars 2 is most certainly not a Pay To Win game.
FTFY:
P2P would mean that f2p players can acquire HoT elites through grinding. They can’t so in all honstesty it is p2w. This is something that ANET faced the moment they went free to play. I am surprised people are even arguing the logic to be honest. The very definition of P2W is paying to have the upperhand.
reaper; only one possible “bad” matchup (daredevil w/Unhindered Combatant). dunno where to start with this one really since i play daredevil but it’s clear reaper’s chill uptime + boon corrupt speed are both in needs of nerfs though
Just proves that every person crying over necros never played one or/and are stupid.
druid; Bristleback remains untouched. it’s both bugged and overpowered by design. something has to be done about this pet. otherwise druid without celestial is well balanced if not lacking a bit.
scrapper; hammer has largely gone untouched. the damage coeffecients on scrapper hammer are the most ridiculous thing in the game i can point to as a clear and obvious imbalance aside from bristleback. either drastically tone down the sustain mechanics on hammer (blocks/reflects/evades) or tone down the damage output (or at the very least make it skillful; most scrappers are just spamming hammer CDs and get rewarded with unaimed AoE kills far too easily).
daredevil; niche matchup against reaper thanks to unhindered combatant, overall good in 1v1s due to improved matchups (only outright bad matchup is scrapper, slightly bad matchups vs dragon hunter and druid) very strong team utility due to incredible single target focus ability + map mobility.
That smelly smell of that smell. Daredevils are the third strongest class right now, just after scrappers and heralds.
herald; similar to thief except more versatile. lacks the matchup daredevil has with reaper but otherwise brings both a strong condition dps and power dps option. great 1v1 ability, great teamplay ability.
The smelly smell. The strongest class currently in the game, but you rank it bellow druids, scrappers, daredevils and reapers? You just trolled yourself.
When you fall, i will be right behind you and whisper: “Who will protect you now?”
Had some valid points but then I noticed you are very hateful towards Revs. " The strongest class currently in the game" Nice joke
Same thing with OP, after reading all his “p2w” complaints I can see that it is pretty much mindless hating since it’s the new class from a paid expansion.
Updating my list, based on theorycrafting and experience playing as and fighting against these professions. Specs won’t be specified but should be pretty obvious.
Updating my list, based on theorycrafting and experience playing as and fighting against these professions. Specs won’t be specified but should be pretty obvious.
This list is 1v1 or 5v5? even if 1v1 a lot of classes can do so much damage to reaper in very short amount of time or catch them with like 0 LF it can cause trouble. Reaper can feel very good in low / med skill range where you don’t really have to care much about surviving as people don’t focus and doing low dps so you can do full damage. 5v5 reaper still the same weak target that will get kitten d alot in higher league games. So i don’t know where this reaper OP comes from. Probably players that don’t play reaper and are low/med skilled got defeated by med-high, high necro and comes to forum to say necro OP nerf.
It’s hard to know for sure which is the top, but i can see almost everyone agrees which is the worst.
I can’t say positively if Tempest is the worst (but is in bottom 2), we’ll have to wait ranked and next season, but it will all be too late. I don’t care if ele is the least op (there has to be one anyway), as long as it it playable. For now it is, but i doubt it will once meta settles and medium tier classes start running otpimal builds.
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It’s hard to know for sure which is the top, but i can see almost everyone agrees which is the worst.
I can’t say positively if Tempest is the worst (but is in bottom 2), we’ll have to wait ranked and next season, but it will all be too late. I don’t care if ele is the least op (there has to be one anyway), as long as it it playable. For now it is, but i doubt it will once meta settles and medium tier classes start running otpimal builds.
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yeah the game is p2w. But a pretty cheap p2w since you just have to buy expansion.
You don’t want to pay for anything? Do you know that the game wasn’t free to play at the beginning? Do you think people will pay for it if elite spec was available as a ftp player? Do you know Anet needs money for this game? Probably not.
Now please, stop with P2W complains, or go see how others awful P2W mmos are and go back there.
FTP in guild wars 2 means you test the game, and if you like it you buy it. Don’t like it? Don’t play it. Simple as that.
Moreover, if you don’t buy xpac from every MMOs you can’t be competitive with others.
Just an example (but only one, because I can do the same with any mmos with DLC)
In FFXIV, you don’t buy xpac? Ok then, you can’t level up to max level, can’t access to new jobs and new skills. And this is a monthly subscription mmo. You can’t even access to new pvp/pve maps areas even if you paid for the base game with monthly fee.
Guild wars 2 is FTP because you don’t pay to access the core content. But if you want to be competitive in PvP or PvE, you have to give money. Every MMOs with DLC are P2W. In FFXIV if you don’t buy the xpac you are stuck with the story and can’t save the world. You can’t win —> definitely P2W.
That’s why I don’t really see the issue if you need to buy xpac to stay in the competition imo.
I swear some people don’t understand the difference between a buy to play game and a pay to win game. Pay to win comes down to you spending money on micro transactions that give your character advantages over other players who don’t spend money on these transactions. In just about every MMO there is always a expansion that comes out and if you usually don’t buy that expansion you’re going to be left behind it’s just the way it is.
If the company’s goal is to succeed in true esports market, the game should never be pay2win.
Dismiss argument using no facts and restating original false claim.
You’ve been Trumped.
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reaper; only one possible “bad” matchup (daredevil w/Unhindered Combatant). dunno where to start with this one really since i play daredevil but it’s clear reaper’s chill uptime + boon corrupt speed are both in needs of nerfs though
Just proves that every person crying over necros never played one or/and are stupid.
druid; Bristleback remains untouched. it’s both bugged and overpowered by design. something has to be done about this pet. otherwise druid without celestial is well balanced if not lacking a bit.
scrapper; hammer has largely gone untouched. the damage coeffecients on scrapper hammer are the most ridiculous thing in the game i can point to as a clear and obvious imbalance aside from bristleback. either drastically tone down the sustain mechanics on hammer (blocks/reflects/evades) or tone down the damage output (or at the very least make it skillful; most scrappers are just spamming hammer CDs and get rewarded with unaimed AoE kills far too easily).
daredevil; niche matchup against reaper thanks to unhindered combatant, overall good in 1v1s due to improved matchups (only outright bad matchup is scrapper, slightly bad matchups vs dragon hunter and druid) very strong team utility due to incredible single target focus ability + map mobility.
That smelly smell of that smell. Daredevils are the third strongest class right now, just after scrappers and heralds.
herald; similar to thief except more versatile. lacks the matchup daredevil has with reaper but otherwise brings both a strong condition dps and power dps option. great 1v1 ability, great teamplay ability.
The smelly smell. The strongest class currently in the game, but you rank it bellow druids, scrappers, daredevils and reapers? You just trolled yourself.
i really don’t care if some random nobody disagrees with me, especially if you’re just stating your opinion as fact without any attempt at articulating your justification(s).
reaper; only one possible “bad” matchup (daredevil w/Unhindered Combatant). dunno where to start with this one really since i play daredevil but it’s clear reaper’s chill uptime + boon corrupt speed are both in needs of nerfs though
Just proves that every person crying over necros never played one or/and are stupid.
druid; Bristleback remains untouched. it’s both bugged and overpowered by design. something has to be done about this pet. otherwise druid without celestial is well balanced if not lacking a bit.
scrapper; hammer has largely gone untouched. the damage coeffecients on scrapper hammer are the most ridiculous thing in the game i can point to as a clear and obvious imbalance aside from bristleback. either drastically tone down the sustain mechanics on hammer (blocks/reflects/evades) or tone down the damage output (or at the very least make it skillful; most scrappers are just spamming hammer CDs and get rewarded with unaimed AoE kills far too easily).
daredevil; niche matchup against reaper thanks to unhindered combatant, overall good in 1v1s due to improved matchups (only outright bad matchup is scrapper, slightly bad matchups vs dragon hunter and druid) very strong team utility due to incredible single target focus ability + map mobility.
That smelly smell of that smell. Daredevils are the third strongest class right now, just after scrappers and heralds.
herald; similar to thief except more versatile. lacks the matchup daredevil has with reaper but otherwise brings both a strong condition dps and power dps option. great 1v1 ability, great teamplay ability.
The smelly smell. The strongest class currently in the game, but you rank it bellow druids, scrappers, daredevils and reapers? You just trolled yourself.
i really don’t care if some random nobody disagrees with me, especially if you’re just stating your opinion as fact without any attempt at articulating your justification(s).
Cha, i don’t search for validation from random nobodies who, by the way, seems to know nothing about the game.
I just corrected you.
When you fall, i will be right behind you and whisper: “Who will protect you now?”
Had some valid points but then I noticed you are very hateful towards Revs. " The strongest class currently in the game" Nice joke
Same thing with OP, after reading all his “p2w” complaints I can see that it is pretty much mindless hating since it’s the new class from a paid expansion.
No hate there. Revs is the only class which can easily survive 1v5 fight long enough for help to arrive: crazy healing via legend dance, infinite blocks, CC and much more. Usually scrappers are way worse, but very skillful revenant can do much more than any other class. I tried revenant, i din’t like it. Revs very too unfocused and random for me, but nevertheless they are strongest class right now (if played by skillful person).
Where have you found hate in that?
When you fall, i will be right behind you and whisper: “Who will protect you now?”
Had some valid points but then I noticed you are very hateful towards Revs. " The strongest class currently in the game" Nice joke
Same thing with OP, after reading all his “p2w” complaints I can see that it is pretty much mindless hating since it’s the new class from a paid expansion.
No hate there. Revs is the only class which can easily survive 1v5 fight long enough for help to arrive: crazy healing via legend dance, infinite blocks, CC and much more. Usually scrappers are way worse, but very skillful revenant can do much more than any other class. I tried revenant, i din’t like it. Revs very too unfocused and random for me, but nevertheless they are strongest class right now (if played by skillful person).
Where have you found hate in that?
Revenants don’t have “infinite” blocks. Revenants go down like a wet noodle if you place any sort of conditions on them once infused light is off cooldown. And besides reapers have marks which are unblockable and the amount of unblockable attacks in the game, yeah. Good luck surviving a 1v5 that is the biggest load of BS if I’ve ever ready any.
Can Revanants disengage very well? Yes. Can they survive 1v5’s, even for a remotely long period of time? No. A Power Revenant can’t even fight on point vs a Reaper and will struggle with some of the more sustain 1v1 specs like Druid and Scrapper. In team fights they are excellent because they can single target burst people down and avoid focus fire and can get from one point to another very quickly. They are almost thief like in that aspect except more versatile. But IMO to really have that burst pressure running Marauder’s over Paladin’s is their best option, which makes them quite a bit squishier.
And that is running Shiro/Glint. You can’t even run anything else besides that. If you run Mallyx/Glint you don’t nearly have enough mobility, literally have zero stunbreakers, and can’t avoid focus fire and lack quickness. If you run Mallyx/Shiro you have zero sustain. If you run Shiro/Glint as a condi build you lack a lot of condition pressure and boon stripping.
Revenant’s are in a good position even though they got nerfed. I would say they are in that line between top tier and mid-tier.
A skillful Revenant would know which match-ups aren’t favourable for them and where and what situations they would have the biggest advantage at. Revenants aren’t exactly the best “on point” fighters.
In team fights they are excellent because they can single target burst people down
You wot m8? Thats not true anymore with recent changes which made sword, hammer (not like it was any good) and shield unviable. Condi is the way to go for rev as mace/axe are our only reliable option now and tbh.. shiro/mallyx sustain is better than shiro/glint.
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Playing Smite since mid s2, f broken gw2.
In team fights they are excellent because they can single target burst people down
You wot m8? Thats not true anymore with recent changes which made sword, hammer (not like it was any good) and shield unviable. Condi is the way to go for rev as mace/axe are our only reliable option now and tbh.. shiro/mallyx sustain is better than shiro/glint.
lol @ sword/shield being unviable. Hammer you can definitely make work.
Super hype op:
1. Class I do not understand at all.
2. Class I hate most, because of the same reason as 1.
Mega op:
3. Class that others are better at than me.
4. High – risk / high reward class
5. Class that has a different health pool than the class I currently play
6. Class that uses conditions
Little op:
7. Class that has boons and traits
8. Class that can use dodge
Weak and up:
9. My class (only if played by me, all that perform well on it are cheater!!)
Good list haha.. one problem. High risk/high reward builds hardly exists in this game. there are only high risk/moderate reward, and low risk/high or moderate reward builds.
In team fights they are excellent because they can single target burst people down
You wot m8? Thats not true anymore with recent changes which made sword, hammer (not like it was any good) and shield unviable. Condi is the way to go for rev as mace/axe are our only reliable option now and tbh.. shiro/mallyx sustain is better than shiro/glint.
lol @ sword/shield being unviable. Hammer you can definitely make work.
Hmm.. sitting duck in one place for 3 seconds to get 2,5k hp on 25cd or go for sword offhand with mobile 2sec block on 12 cd.. Hard choice.
Sword mh hmm.. a weapon that is bugged as kitten, hits like wet noodle when 2+ show up, in which case it doesnt matter if i start aa ppl with sword or staff as the difference in dps is ~3,5%
Hammer hm.. a weapon that need distance to deal any damage at all due to the nature of cor assuming it even hit bc terrain issues which causes this skill to miss even on flat ground, has no kiting tools, one funny rooted evade, 2 sec long casttime knockdown.
Or go for mace/axe and melt ppl in seconds maniacally laughing. Tough choice really. But obviously some warrior knows my class better shrug.
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Playing Smite since mid s2, f broken gw2.
The Baseline Game is ‘Free To Play’ now that the game has moved on.
Seriously: how can people complain that what they are getting for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING isn’t enough.
Jumping from: ‘You need the latest expansion to have the most powerful builds’ to ’It’s pay to win’ is BS.
If it was pay to win they’d be individual powerful items you could only get by spending real money – that’s Pay To Win.
I agree that Guild Wars 2 is NOT Free To Play – it’s just the baseline game that is – really is there anyone who cares about the game even a little bit that doesn’t understand that.
However Guild Wars 2 is most certainly not a Pay To Win game.
FTFY:
P2P would mean that f2p players can acquire HoT elites through grinding. They can’t so in all honstesty it is p2w. This is something that ANET faced the moment they went free to play. I am surprised people are even arguing the logic to be honest. The very definition of P2W is paying to have the upperhand.
Just owning the original expansion of Guild Wars 2 means you don’t own the whole game. If you don’t even own the whole game then the fact that you don’t have access to some of it hardly makes it PayToWin. Own the whole game… then show me one thing in it (IN the game, not the game itself) that is pay to win.
