everyone kicks necromancer
necro is a pretty selfless profession the conditions weaken enemies and makes them waste cleanses. But the damage on the necro is pretty lackluster
Lol that’s new to me.
I’ve only played sPVP so far, never stepped into tournaments, but I’ve never had anyone yell at me for being a Necromancer. And why would you be selfish? Playing Necromancer in its current state is a great act of bravery. :P
Just tell them to shut up or find yourself another team/server.
Necro sux not couse less burst/surivality/cc. He sux couse there is to many bugs at traits and skills… just look at necro topic, tons of unfixed bugs. Sad but true
you should probably look for new friends
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most people play with their friends. there are only few people in spvp zone. i can’t find tournament group anymore. i didn’t buy this game to be insulted for being necromancer.
I wouldn’t even bother playing with groups like this.
I’d have to say, I’ve never been kicked for being a necro, and for the record, people don’t complain about the necro because it’s a horrid class. The issue is there are many bugged traits atm, and ergo, very few builds that are optimal for tourney play. However, as others have suggested, I really wouldn’t play with these folk, an epidemic necro, as with several other builds, can be hilariously effective if not focused down in a team fight.
I play necro, and I haven’t had people tell me off for it. Quite the opposite actually, if I pick up something else, I’m usually asked to play necro.
In my opinion, you’re being kicked for the way you play necro, not the class. Your build is…wrong. Lol. Alright well it’s not wrong (people will hound me and say there is no right or wrong way to play a class, even though for necro there is due to its complete limited gamestyle right now), but it’s not the most effective. If I had you on my team, I too would ask you to switch to something else. No offence.
Judging from the way he spelled sacrifices, you shouldn’t ever take anything he says To heart. Ever.
So play another class?
The necromancer isn’t a real class. You’re only brought to a full condition team for one spell. Which is debatable if you need a necro anyways, in favor of a class that can do more.
Maybe once they fix the 90 something remaining bugs with the class, it will be better. But until then, you’re choosing to play a very underpowered and poorly designed class.
only newbs think necro is bad. if they kicked you, excellent.
necro is really the only defence against guardian heavy teams – which is quite common. corrupt boon is by far the best boon remover in the game and they’re dumb if they think necros are bad.
I guarantee you that soon enough people will realize necros are one of the most powerful classes in the game.
Well… Ive seen some great masterfull necromancers with strong builds in tpvp. Gusy stacking more condition dmg then i could ever dream to cleanse.. And i have an full cleansing engin, minionmasters which did vey nice dmg and he managed to down 2 people while being attacked by 3 and actually managed to get away (i was standing on a ledge on that pvpmap… I love letting people 1v1 even though i usually get cursed at for not helping them if my teammate dies)
Necromancer however is hard to build and almost harder to play. Yust like ele’s kinda stuck in an “use this hard to use build to be on par with avarage people with other proffs or you are doomed!”.
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necros are ranged tanks that inflict conditions and have pets. They are essentially the opposite (counter part?) of the guardian. They are hard to play, but recently i’ve seen an uptick in well played necros. so maybe all this necro hate will even out after a few more of our bugs are dealt with.
We also can inhabit other areas such as boon stripper or sustained dps due to our more hardy nature.. we have no burst at all though.
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I play necro, and I haven’t had people tell me off for it. Quite the opposite actually, if I pick up something else, I’m usually asked to play necro.
In my opinion, you’re being kicked for the way you play necro, not the class. Your build is…wrong. Lol. Alright well it’s not wrong (people will hound me and say there is no right or wrong way to play a class, even though for necro there is due to its complete limited gamestyle right now), but it’s not the most effective. If I had you on my team, I too would ask you to switch to something else. No offence.
they say necromancer sucks before even playing it. why is my build wrong?
Na dude nerco’s are powerful
I seen defensive minion nerco build just try to take there point solo
I haven’t build a 1v1 nerco but they are good guardian counters
My build is more aoe damage/support good in team fights not so good solo.
I have made lots of players look like amateurs on my necro including 1v4’s even. Its only noobs that think necro’s are bad.
I guess 80-90% of the community is just horrible while you are the special snowflake that is among the best.
I guess 80-90% of the community is just horrible while you are the special snowflake that is among the best.
You sound like you feel threatened about something xD
Im sorry for you being part of the 80-90%
I’ve also played against some great necros and the other class that is often said to be UP – elementalists. I can’t really understand why people complain about them so much to be honest. With a good build and sensible play these classes are a powerhouse.
The ele is almost as badly bugged as the necro also it is a lot harder to master and handle then most classes. It took me a little to get adjusted to it but whenever it does not bug out during a match it rips !
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your not being kicked, your friends are making you change, stand your ground and get new friends. Necro’s are great in spvp, i am also 1st or 2nd.
Also if they keep whispering to you to change that could be considered harassment lol something to think about to not get banned.
They must be pretty awful if they think necro is bad.
Same with ele.
well it could also be that they already had the role that he would have played as a necro filled by another class.. or that he was inexperienced as a necro. Hard to say really but I havn’t run across this to much myself.
How do you quote on these forums?
In any case, I’m replying to OP’s post when he asked me what I thought was wrong. Just to clarify some stuff, I’m not bashing at you or trying to tell you I’m better than you, I’m trying to help you improve your build which I strongly feel is one of the worst necro builds you can run at the moment (not your fault, necro just struggles in many parts of the class).
First of all, I wouldn’t use Axe and Focus. Whilst 2 on axe is a cool move and does decent damage, 1 and 3 are way sub-par compared to what other main hand weapons can provide. Focus is alright but right now I really believe the strongest offhand is dagger, or warhorn if you play a more versatile build. BiP isn’t a good move. It says it does a lot of damage but thats only because it lasts for so long – most teams will have some sort of condition removal or a way to deal with it after 5 or 10 seconds. I haven’t really used Corrosive Poison so I won’t comment on it, but later I’ll tell you the skills I would use instead (and no room for that). Signet of spite is only really good if you have FoC or epidemic, and even then I wouldn’t use it. It’s for such a short duration that has little effect that there are better alternatives. Your ultimate, Lich Form is good as a form of burst, but that isn’t what necro’s are for. So, I’ll put below what I think you should try using instead.
Right now, there is only I think 2 (3, max) useful and effective ways of playing necro at it’s potential. The strongest one I would say is the toughness/survival build. With the right gameplay and skills, you can easily hold a node solo or delay a teamfight long enough for support to come or in many cases, even kill 2 or 3 enemies. This build also uses skills to manipulate conditions/boons, rather than create 30 stacks of them. To try and achieve this, I use this build:
Scepter for bleeding + FoC, which will be a large portion of your damage (also thanks to traits). 4 on dagger allows you to transfer conditions on you to your enemy. Really useful, and use it for that reason, not for damage. Staff is self-explanatory. Probably the strongest necro weapon for now. Consume condition is the best necro heal, especially for this build as it again helps with condition management. Spectral armour is used to help build your life force quickly and to help against a thief who’s trying to burst you or anything else, as it reduces damage by 33%. This, sometimes I swap with epidemic depending on the enemy team I face and the team I’m playing with. It’s situational. Plague signet is probably my favourite skill, and priceless to me. It’s a very big player in your attempts to manipulate conditions not just for you, but for your team. Corrupt boon has been mentioned before as the anti-guardian, it’s a really, really strong spell. Plague form is really there for survival. It lets you sit at the keep node vs 2 or 3 and just spam blind to maximise the time you delay them from capping until your team gets there (whilst even getting them low thanks to the poison).
The aim of this build is to take advantage of plague form every time its off cooldown and you jump into a fight, and death shroud everytime you have lifeforce at 100%. This way, the enemy effectively has to kill you more than once due to your shroud. Toughness on runes also let you take a shedload of damage and still feel fresh.
I’m writing this as I have to rush out, so it may seem a little rough or badly-worded – I apologise for that – but I hope the main point has gotten across.
Another way I’ve seen necro played is support/wells, which is a cool build too. I’ve never played it myself, but I haven’t complained when having one on my team ^^. Minion Master Necro I still think iskitten due to the complete lack of control you have over your minions and their stupid AI. If you’re lucky, they’ll take a few hits for you. Hope this helps as to why you might be seen as a under-par necro.
Dear lord. I didn’t realise I wrote that much in such an unstructured manner. Really, really sorry for that wall of text lol.
my necro is dagger/warhorn scepter/focus and i rip face. i use wells in combination with immobilizes in a similar fashion to how wars use br/bola to frenzy/hb. frankly i think weapon switching (more than any other class, period.) is absolutely necessary on necros. if you don’t know how to weapon switch effectively, you’re going to be at a serious disadvantage. i basically weapon switch on skill cooldown (~12-15 seconds).
for the record, i main guardian. i don’t lose to anything and guardian is my strongest class. yet i don’t see my necro really doing any worse in tpvp (or hotjoin i spose). if someone is kicking your necromancer and can’t even spell the word ‘sacrifices’ properly… not to mention he’s fine with someone playing a 100% new build in his tourny team……. lol just be happy you got kicked cuz it saved you the two clicks it woulda taken to leave.
edit: ah, weapon switching explains why the noobs think necro is weak. a lot of them just use a staff, spam marks and use a shaman ammy and wonder why every class seems so cold blooded when they rip them up. :\
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I play necro, and I haven’t had people tell me off for it. Quite the opposite actually, if I pick up something else, I’m usually asked to play necro.
In my opinion, you’re being kicked for the way you play necro, not the class. Your build is…wrong. Lol. Alright well it’s not wrong (people will hound me and say there is no right or wrong way to play a class, even though for necro there is due to its complete limited gamestyle right now), but it’s not the most effective. If I had you on my team, I too would ask you to switch to something else. No offence.
Same my group runs Necro and he is one of them guys that if he tells me over TS he is gonna kill someone or get a point i know its prob gonna happen. been working for us so far