Guild Wars 2

This game really needs to rethink hotjoin. I just don’t really understand its merit. I mean i get that if you only have a few minutes and want to jump in and fool around or try out some builds, this is the place to do it. Don’t misunderstand me, I play hotjoin and it can be fun, but usually it’s not. I’m sure this topic has been beaten into the ground but imo i think it deserves more attention, mostly because of the horror show it has become and how damaging it can be for newcomers to pvp. An hj match are often one sided and there is always the iconic amalgamation of players making effect rich abstract art. There are those that enjoy this zergplay, and those who mostly roam. when one or the other meets, the victor is never the soloist. I still dont get how either side enjoys this experience; a gang of 3 or 4 knocking around one, or the one getting knocked around by 3 or 4. Newcomers especially fall victim to these groups and more so lately groups who roam together are usually the more experienced players. I am always trying to get my friends who mostly do pve to pvp with me and I can say for sure that they get turned off quick when one of these zergs face plants them the whole time at spawn. I explain to them how tpvp is a totally different game but that doesnt erase their first impression. I guess I made this post because I think the game is great but the pvp scene is is so small already and failing to attract new players and hotjoin imo hurts more than it helps. I could be TOTALLY wrong but the already diminished population seems way more concerned about some perfectly, (and unobtainable) balanced meta while potential pvpers are lost before they can even have these interests. maybe the popularity of the game and player growth doesnt matter to the top players idk, but hotjoin needs totally revamped or replaced with a more structured format that incentivizes players to learn and care about strategy and teamwork. that is where the depth comes into this game. SMITE for example has guides and tutorial modes that acquaint you with how the game is to be played as a member of a team. hotjoin does the complete opposite and I am pretty sure new players dont’t enjoy getting castrated by a five man zerg . well thats the long and short of it. comment if you like.

Firstly, you need to use more return lines characters :p.
Have you and your friends tried the 5v5 matches? If you go to the browser search and filter for 5v5, they are usually much better.

I think that hotjoins could use some change to the rewards system. Currently the only game type available is Conquest yet you earn much more glory playing Team Death match with those trying to play Conquest.

Some ideas:
Reduce the amount of glory and rank gained from killing by 50-80% (2-5 per kill).
-Or- Increase the glory per kill by 50% but split the glory of a kill between the killers. If 8 people are responsible for your death, they all get less glory for the kill but if 1 person defeats 1 person then they get more then they currently would.

Increase the amount of glory for playing the Conquest game type. How? For each point your team controls, earn x glory per x seconds. The more points you control the more glory / rank income you earn.

Add incentives such as: Earn double glory / rank when capturing an enemy point while you have an ally on another point in your control.

Boost the win bonus for players that worked towards the objective and not just mindlessly zerged.

Basically they need to push more for the game type the want us to play, and reduce the Zerging TDM that people are using to farm rank.

This is the tricky situation, a newbie wants to play with his friend in hotjoin, but since a newbie can play with his friend that also means an expert can play with his friends.

So you have the newbie and his friends playing against the expert and his friends and obviously the newbie and friends wont be enjoying hotjoin one bit.

So you really cant just take away the team selection because the experts cant farm you newbies and the newbies cant play with his friends.

The biggest problem I see here is the tournament system, it doesn’t really feel like a tournament, theres no competition, you don’t really get famous for winning game after game, once your in the top 25 all it really does is hurt your rating if you lose, its just not that inviting to the experts hence why you see all these people that claim they’re the best with under 500 games won while you got hundreds of other people with over 500 games won, most of them not in the top 100.

The next problem is just hotjoin offers too much rank point experience, its limit needs to go down. losing hotjoin matches doesn’t affect you any bit, theres 0 risks in doing hotjoins but the reward is simply too much to resist.

Server numbers above 100 are 5v5 instead of 8v8. Try those instead. You can even create a filter to just show you 5v5 servers.

Nabrok.9023:

Server numbers above 100 are 5v5 instead of 8v8. Try those instead. You can even create a filter to just show you 5v5 servers.

I wasn’t aware of the numbering related to them, but filtering them is extremely helpful.

Nabrok.9023:

Server numbers above 100 are 5v5 instead of 8v8. Try those instead. You can even create a filter to just show you 5v5 servers.

Didn’t know that either! Thanks for the heads up!

Very misleading when you see “19/20” looking through the different servers.

ThatShortGuy.4672:

Nabrok.9023:

Server numbers above 100 are 5v5 instead of 8v8. Try those instead. You can even create a filter to just show you 5v5 servers.

Didn’t know that either! Thanks for the heads up!

Very misleading when you see “19/20” looking through the different servers.

Yea. It would be better to display:
Player: 6/10
Spectators: 9/10

But the display counts spectators and players