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how to get team to take advise?
easy, form your own team and enter queue as a party instead of relying on the stupid match making system.
easy, form your own team and enter queue as a party instead of relying on the stupid match making system.
good idea i am just surprised that people do not take advise from long times pvpers because odds are they can make a big difference
You can not force others to take advice. Write it once in the beginning. If they listen it’s fine, if not then show them how is done. Maybe they will see the what you are about to do. Communication is the best way to success.
But keep in mind:
1. The others might have their own strategy. So they will disregard yours. (Happens to me a lot, some will give seemingly good advice, but ithe doesn’t fit my playstyle/build)
2. Never flame!
Sorry for shattering your illusions
I lay out a plan at the beginning based on what I think we should do. If someone else gives an alternative plan, or just says no, I’ll go with the alternative regardless if its good or not. It’s better to run someone elses plan than to run two alternative plans XD
In the end it either comes together or it doesn’t. Get over it, move on.
You can not force others to take advice. Write it once in the beginning. If they listen it’s fine, if not then show them how is done. Maybe they will see the what you are about to do. Communication is the best way to success.
But keep in mind:
1. The others might have their own strategy. So they will disregard yours. (Happens to me a lot, some will give seemingly good advice, but ithe doesn’t fit my playstyle/build)
2. Never flame!
i am at the point where i will never bother talking and just except the fact the odds are i will lose a pip . dont even say hi back
Lead by example/don’t trust any pug with home. How you get pugs to play is by taking home and properly rotating in order to force them to copy. Can’t control other players. So do the part you trust them least, yourself.
You can not force others to take advice. Write it once in the beginning. If they listen it’s fine, if not then show them how is done. Maybe they will see the what you are about to do. Communication is the best way to success.
But keep in mind:
1. The others might have their own strategy. So they will disregard yours. (Happens to me a lot, some will give seemingly good advice, but ithe doesn’t fit my playstyle/build)
2. Never flame!i am at the point where i will never bother talking and just except the fact the odds are i will lose a pip . dont even say hi back
People don’t read typing a lot and typing while playing makes you play worse, they really should add some kind of voice command thing for pvp I think it would help.
You can not force others to take advice. Write it once in the beginning. If they listen it’s fine, if not then show them how is done. Maybe they will see the what you are about to do. Communication is the best way to success.
But keep in mind:
1. The others might have their own strategy. So they will disregard yours. (Happens to me a lot, some will give seemingly good advice, but ithe doesn’t fit my playstyle/build)
2. Never flame!i am at the point where i will never bother talking and just except the fact the odds are i will lose a pip . dont even say hi back
lmfao where did you get that
You can not force others to take advice. Write it once in the beginning. If they listen it’s fine, if not then show them how is done. Maybe they will see the what you are about to do. Communication is the best way to success.
But keep in mind:
1. The others might have their own strategy. So they will disregard yours. (Happens to me a lot, some will give seemingly good advice, but ithe doesn’t fit my playstyle/build)
2. Never flame!i am at the point where i will never bother talking and just except the fact the odds are i will lose a pip . dont even say hi back
lmfao where did you get that
Back in season 1, every second thread on the pvp forums was one person or another proclaiming how they lost a pip because of this, that, and the other thing. So I started making memes XD
It’s been a while since anybody mentioned a pip loss :p
You can not force others to take advice. Write it once in the beginning. If they listen it’s fine, if not then show them how is done. Maybe they will see the what you are about to do. Communication is the best way to success.
But keep in mind:
1. The others might have their own strategy. So they will disregard yours. (Happens to me a lot, some will give seemingly good advice, but ithe doesn’t fit my playstyle/build)
2. Never flame!i am at the point where i will never bother talking and just except the fact the odds are i will lose a pip . dont even say hi back
lmfao where did you get that
Back in season 1, every second thread on the pvp forums was one person or another proclaiming how they lost a pip because of this, that, and the other thing. So I started making memes XD
It’s been a while since anybody mentioned a pip loss :p
been a while? you havent payed much attention to pvp forums the last few days. guess you will have to make more memes lol
Yea make more memes! I like your red face dude hes cute. It’d look cool if he had smoke coming out of his ears too and maybe some bulging veins in his forehead, or make one that gets huge and green like the Hulk.
Best plan is to push far,win far ,hold far 1v2 and then blame your team if they lose meanwhile the other nodes
Best plan is to push far,win far ,hold far 1v2 and then blame your team if they lose meanwhile the other nodes
hmm what profession can handle that ?
i was in ranked on Legacy of the Foefire. i looked at the other teams class comp and i thought they had to many condi heavy classes and we should go for sides . they said no 1 home 4 mid so i played along i was right it was a slaughter . so i said please dont feed mid and go for sides we need to split them up . they did not bother so i got home and far we had a 2cap 90% of the match but still lost because my team would not stop feeding the mid . any other experienced players any good at helping a team use some sort of strategy. i felt like a major failure. we could have won if they just would have took my advise sad part is it was 3 sapphire 2 ambers v 5 ambers lol….i am really about to call it quits on ranked but i cant stop because i truly believe i belong in legendary…….PS to the newer players. if you ever fight a team like above if your team is not built to handle constent condi do not rush mid you will die. . because you are not getting hit by one of them your getting it by a bunch of people because a lot of the condi skills are aoe. so you need to split them up
I’m telling you right now you do not belong in legendary with your current history of games played against games won.
i was in ranked on Legacy of the Foefire. i looked at the other teams class comp and i thought they had to many condi heavy classes and we should go for sides . they said no 1 home 4 mid so i played along i was right it was a slaughter . so i said please dont feed mid and go for sides we need to split them up . they did not bother so i got home and far we had a 2cap 90% of the match but still lost because my team would not stop feeding the mid . any other experienced players any good at helping a team use some sort of strategy. i felt like a major failure. we could have won if they just would have took my advise sad part is it was 3 sapphire 2 ambers v 5 ambers lol….i am really about to call it quits on ranked but i cant stop because i truly believe i belong in legendary…….PS to the newer players. if you ever fight a team like above if your team is not built to handle constent condi do not rush mid you will die. . because you are not getting hit by one of them your getting it by a bunch of people because a lot of the condi skills are aoe. so you need to split them up
I’m telling you right now you do not belong in legendary with your current history of games played against games won.
i see your one of the guys that expect good player to carry a match. should i call you god
i usually say something in map chat and guess what? 75% of the time NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING.
I say “Sweet a really talkative team” and hope they know how to play.
“Buff my main class, nerf everything else. "
i was in ranked on Legacy of the Foefire. i looked at the other teams class comp and i thought they had to many condi heavy classes and we should go for sides . they said no 1 home 4 mid so i played along i was right it was a slaughter . so i said please dont feed mid and go for sides we need to split them up . they did not bother so i got home and far we had a 2cap 90% of the match but still lost because my team would not stop feeding the mid . any other experienced players any good at helping a team use some sort of strategy. i felt like a major failure. we could have won if they just would have took my advise sad part is it was 3 sapphire 2 ambers v 5 ambers lol….i am really about to call it quits on ranked but i cant stop because i truly believe i belong in legendary…….PS to the newer players. if you ever fight a team like above if your team is not built to handle constent condi do not rush mid you will die. . because you are not getting hit by one of them your getting it by a bunch of people because a lot of the condi skills are aoe. so you need to split them up
I saw a guy complaining in map chat over almost the basically same thing. Pugs not listening to him. Basically advised him to give up and stop.
Here’s why:
1) the pugs don’t know you. You could be a pro level player and get paid and still most won’t know who you are. So why would they listen to you, in their mind you’re just another pug.
2) You aren’t their leader. You maybe experienced and a lot of the time are probably right, but you aren’t their leader, they are going to do what they want at the end of the day. At best you can call targets, write orders and hope they even read mapchat much less look at it.
3) You haven’t proved yourself to them to be worthy of listening to. Again falls back to you’re just another pug to them. In their mind you are just another pug, maybe even one of those bad pugs who keep causing them to lose, same as how you may think of most of them. Its human nature to blame others instead of yourselves. Sad thing is maybe by the end of the match you’ve proven you’re good and know what you’re talking about but by then the match is over.
4) You can’t fix stupid. I literally had a warrior on my team that was horrible, last place by far on both teams, I’m guessing new to pvp or pvp basics and logic 101. Anyways myself and the enemy both downed each other at basically the same time, with him downing me first slightly b/c of cd’s or whatever. Anyways my teammate comes along and tries to F stomp the enemy who had maybe 10% hp or less twice. Both times the enemy stopped the stomp and then rallied off of my body. I call him out on it and explain politely that you don’t need to stomp players with such low hp, you can literally just blink at them and they die. 1 auto attack or less sometimes lol. He then rages and goes on a cap lock spree telling me its my fault because I’m the one who died. I’m like dude, logically, even if it was my fault i died to him, not saying it was or wasn’kittens still your fault for not knowing when to stomp and when to just attack. It’s a pvp basic. Pvp 101. Common sense. Well needless to say he died too to the guy that just rallied, and we lost but life goes on.Point is he was 100% positive in his mind he was right. He did nothing wrong. At that point there is literally nothing you can do to help him, at best hope he thinks about it and doesn’t try to stomp an almost dead player in his next match. But if he doesn’t want to listen to good pvp advice nothing I can do about it.
i was in ranked on Legacy of the Foefire. i looked at the other teams class comp and i thought they had to many condi heavy classes and we should go for sides . they said no 1 home 4 mid so i played along i was right it was a slaughter . so i said please dont feed mid and go for sides we need to split them up . they did not bother so i got home and far we had a 2cap 90% of the match but still lost because my team would not stop feeding the mid . any other experienced players any good at helping a team use some sort of strategy. i felt like a major failure. we could have won if they just would have took my advise sad part is it was 3 sapphire 2 ambers v 5 ambers lol….i am really about to call it quits on ranked but i cant stop because i truly believe i belong in legendary…….PS to the newer players. if you ever fight a team like above if your team is not built to handle constent condi do not rush mid you will die. . because you are not getting hit by one of them your getting it by a bunch of people because a lot of the condi skills are aoe. so you need to split them up
I saw a guy complaining in map chat over almost the basically same thing. Pugs not listening to him. Basically advised him to give up and stop.
Here’s why:
1) the pugs don’t know you. You could be a pro level player and get paid and still most won’t know who you are. So why would they listen to you, in their mind you’re just another pug.
2) You aren’t their leader. You maybe experienced and a lot of the time are probably right, but you aren’t their leader, they are going to do what they want at the end of the day. At best you can call targets, write orders and hope they even read mapchat much less look at it.
3) You haven’t proved yourself to them to be worthy of listening to. Again falls back to you’re just another pug to them. In their mind you are just another pug, maybe even one of those bad pugs who keep causing them to lose, same as how you may think of most of them. Its human nature to blame others instead of yourselves. Sad thing is maybe by the end of the match you’ve proven you’re good and know what you’re talking about but by then the match is over.
4) You can’t fix stupid. I literally had a warrior on my team that was horrible, last place by far on both teams, I’m guessing new to pvp or pvp basics and logic 101. Anyways myself and the enemy both downed each other at basically the same time, with him downing me first slightly b/c of cd’s or whatever. Anyways my teammate comes along and tries to F stomp the enemy who had maybe 10% hp or less twice. Both times the enemy stopped the stomp and then rallied off of my body. I call him out on it and explain politely that you don’t need to stomp players with such low hp, you can literally just blink at them and they die. 1 auto attack or less sometimes lol. He then rages and goes on a cap lock spree telling me its my fault because I’m the one who died. I’m like dude, logically, even if it was my fault i died to him, not saying it was or wasn’kittens still your fault for not knowing when to stomp and when to just attack. It’s a pvp basic. Pvp 101. Common sense. Well needless to say he died too to the guy that just rallied, and we lost but life goes on.Point is he was 100% positive in his mind he was right. He did nothing wrong. At that point there is literally nothing you can do to help him, at best hope he thinks about it and doesn’t try to stomp an almost dead player in his next match. But if he doesn’t want to listen to good pvp advice nothing I can do about it.
76 wins out of 197 so keep my mouth shut and keep losing like a champ got it
You can’t. The other day I had a guy on FoeFire that just spawned and went to the other team’s base the entire match to try to kill the Lord. We begged and pleaded with the guy and it didn’t matter. Probably because he had all chat turned off. Thats something to consider I would guess at least 1/4 of people have all chat turned off. There is a not insignificant amount of players that are just going to do whatever the hell they want whether its helpful or not.
Just tell them to “git gud”…it has an instant effect. Not only will their skill increase considerably just by seeing that line in chat, but their morale will go up also. They will start encouraging eachother in team chat, share stories about previous games. Even go so far as to wish each other’s families good luck in life.
You just need to git gud bruh..that’s all /hugs
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Just tell them to “git gud”…it has an instant effect. Not only will their skill increase considerably just by seeing that line in chat, but their morale will go up also. They will start encouraging eachother in team chat, share stories about previous games. Even go so far as to wish each other’s families good luck in life.
You just need to git gud bruh..that’s all /hugs
my brother actually did reverse phycology and won a ton bc of saying git gud. In previous season he would win 1v1 and say get good or laugh at them etc in say chat, and they would rage and keep trying to kill him, instead of helping their team or decapping or rotating. His win rate went through the roof doing this, b/c once they got mad and focused on 1v1’ing him instead of the match he would win several matches and the game would be over.
easy, form your own team and enter queue as a party instead of relying on the stupid match making system.
good idea i am just surprised that people do not take advise from long times pvpers because odds are they can make a big difference
is quite something to read complaing about who plays ranked with a build like this
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/living-the-good-life-now-lol/first#post6171143
Usually there could be problems about leading up a team or simply communicate with it, but as said before you can do only 2 things about:
-1 play your class at your best ( build/role/writing at your team )
-2 set up a premade and try to improve with em.
edit: i find unbecoming when some1 dare to queue with his own fanta build and ends up to ruin the game as some1 who does not listen to the team or reject cooperation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKBKak4gU0g
If they even have chat turned on/read it, I always try to be very polite about it, using please and thank you. More flies with honey…
I actually got my team to listen to me last night and came back from a 150 point deficit.