can you just not even beat around the bush with how favored engineers are?
I’m sick of the imbalance. Just let only engineers play spvp. Stop making it seem like every other class has a fair chance. It’s mind boggling how the engineers get so much of everything. The game isn’t even subtle about how op the engineers are. It’s simply the best profession.
If you don’t believe me.. just ask yourself how many times some scrub said “oh u think you got me good huh? Don’t make me hop on my engi”
I can’t even do it man lol. The balance is a joke. It really is. It’s not even trying to pretend like there’s an even playing field between professions.
Don’t worry guys, I have figured it out. This post is merely a subtle plan of his.
Phase 1: He plays, and falls in love with, an Engi.
Phase 2: He complains about how OP Engis are.
Phase 2: In response at such an outrageous suggestion, we instead list how they rather aren’t.
Phase 3: The devs, seeing such an overwhelming list, buff Engis.
Phase 4: ???
Phase 5: Profit.
A most cunning and vile plan, to be sure! But fear not, we have caught him before any damage was done.
If people will really use the kittening worst and dumbest trait in the game as an excuse for sucking all the way please just nerf this kitten. Its kittening worthless to begin with.
automated response is kitten – too expensive only allows for defensive builds – you cant carry with settlers and with rabid its not really worth it because you lose crit procs anyway when you go for AR
only helps vs necro – worthless vs anything else
just nerf it and nerf all the kittening condi reflects on necro with it – matchup is kittening dumb atm
Also i have met a very small number of strong necros who are actually able to deal with AR solo and dont just stand there and spam scepter auto like most do.
And concerning power engi.. actually the only decent power engi i have met said to me that necros are his worst matchup (he specifically said necros instead of warrior when i asked) because theres just not enough condi remove to go around.
But necros are susceptible to fast burst and CC (which warrior does better than engi without having to worry about being chain feared to death yolo)
can you just not even beat around the bush with how favored engineers are?
I’m sick of the imbalance. Just let only engineers play spvp. Stop making it seem like every other class has a fair chance. It’s mind boggling how the engineers get so much of everything. The game isn’t even subtle about how op the engineers are. It’s simply the best profession.
If you don’t believe me.. just ask yourself how many times some scrub said “oh u think you got me good huh? Don’t make me hop on my engi”
I can’t even do it man lol. The balance is a joke. It really is. It’s not even trying to pretend like there’s an even playing field between professions.
Engineers are (imo) the strongest class in the game. Require a little practise to be viable but a lot of training to be good. They have been flying over the radar of ANet because its a class that requires some practise and people are turning to classes that are easier to play in the beginning. (warriors, necros, mesmers, thiefs).
ANet probably sooner or later will put them more in line with other professions.
Skilled players imo are the most op class in this game. Nerf skilled players or just remove them altogether please. Oh wait… that’s already well on the way.
Engineers are (imo) the strongest class in the game. Require a little practise to be viable but a lot of training to be good. They have been flying over the radar of ANet because its a class that requires some practise and people are turning to classes that are easier to play in the beginning. (warriors, necros, mesmers, thiefs).
ANet probably sooner or later will put them more in line with other professions.
Of course they’re strong, and yeah I have an engi and it requires more pratice than war or necro.
Also, some people forget a point : Fighting an engi with a large area, or fighting an engi on points, is very different.
Engi are pretty good in defence. Just use your elite and spam bombs on yourself. If someone go in the point … pray for your life.
problem is : engi have a good dps, tank very well, and can bump/control. That’s too much =/
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This sounds like an engi fanboy Automated Response. Get it?
The only thing is that I’ve played both, so I can tell you that engineer is harder and also more fun. You should try it, you’ll agree.
Engineers agree that AR is poorly-designed, and several of the good ones have chosen to play without it. However, even with AR a condi engineer should lose to a condi necro. To put things into perspective, in a pure condi spam fight, a condi engineer has either 2 or 3 condition cleanses; a necro can flip 6 conditions and consume conditions. Engineers have better mobility, but necros have way ranged pressure.
If you need tips for beating an AR engineer, hit me up in-game. It’s not that tough, you just have to save your fears or play with carrion amulet, which you’ll probably want to start doing anyway since DS ele might be a build after the patch.
i think people misunderstood him, hes saying that engi as a class has access to too many things. not as a player how hard or easy it is to play…
“i think it’s an underserved nerf. now we have to slot a stun breaker??”
“berserker stance clears all CC on you and you’re still immune to CC for 8 seconds”
-Excalibur.9748
isn’t condi engi a dream presence for necro?
isn’t condi engi a source of necro damag with all the flipping?
and isn’t necro condi engi’es strongest counter?
i think people misunderstood him, hes saying that engi as a class has access to too many things. not as a player how hard or easy it is to play…
it has average access to many abilities, but is surpassed in every aspect by one class or another. every game has such class and every game has an opinion that jack of all trades is good at everything in hands of good player and master of nothing at hands of poor player. imo, this is fair.
i think people misunderstood him, hes saying that engi as a class has access to too many things. not as a player how hard or easy it is to play…
it has average access to many abilities, but is surpassed in every aspect by one class or another. every game has such class and every game has an opinion that jack of all trades is good at everything in hands of good player and master of nothing at hands of poor player. imo, this is fair.
what about ele.
“i think it’s an underserved nerf. now we have to slot a stun breaker??”
“berserker stance clears all CC on you and you’re still immune to CC for 8 seconds”
-Excalibur.9748
i think people misunderstood him, hes saying that engi as a class has access to too many things. not as a player how hard or easy it is to play…
it has average access to many abilities, but is surpassed in every aspect by one class or another. every game has such class and every game has an opinion that jack of all trades is good at everything in hands of good player and master of nothing at hands of poor player. imo, this is fair.
what about ele.
ele has that feature too, but still, it feels different. ele, if temporarily (attunement cd) is stuck in one mode, and for that gets a prize of being superior in that stance. like burst damage, stronger heal/cleansing, etc. i like both concepts, though currently i’m sticking to engi more. but i like to play more ele too.
i always liked this idea, jack of all trades, adapting to situation, defining the nature of combat and hitting enemy where he is weakest. i played druid in wow. but there it didn’t work in pvp (possibly cause i stubbornly stick to balance druid, while cat build was strong in arena). but here engi is sort of working, and that’s great.
i think people misunderstood him, hes saying that engi as a class has access to too many things. not as a player how hard or easy it is to play…
He states clearly how engineers in his eyes are the most OP class. That could be due to the variety they have at their disposal within a team context. But i highy doubt he is talking about that.
If you look at his post history. He literally stated that engineers are his toughest 1v1 opponents while playing a necro. Post from the thread “Thoughest three opponents in 1v1”:
Engi definitely.
Mesmer comes in second.
And yes.. I will say elementalist. They have very good CC and can easily avoid all of your important skills and utilities thrown at them. They have amazing burst which means your chance for DS helping is very small.
So as necro his major gripes are with engineer, mesmer and elementalist. Could be me…but those are actually the 3 profession a necro mancer doesnt struggle with unless he gets outplayed or gets caught without life force.
Problem with engi’s is that they’re basically a hard counter to anyone running a melee build (except wars). They’ll just run around and kite as you simultaneously eat their bombs and nades.
Problem with engi’s is that they’re basically a hard counter to anyone running a melee build (except wars). They’ll just run around and kite as you simultaneously eat their bombs and nades.
Thats the thing with engineers. They dont have the best damage, they do have a lot of survival and point control tools though.
Key is to soften them up with some random condis or ranged dmg. Get them to 80% → one switch on to him by a thief = dead engi.
The ones that struggle the most vs them are guardians. Those are imo the only guys that have the right to complain (if we purely look at 1v1). Since they dont have the burst of hammer warriors or thieves or the condi pressure of necros.
The ones that struggle the most vs them are guardians. Those are imo the only guys that have the right to complain (if we purely look at 1v1). Since they dont have the burst of hammer warriors or thieves or the condi pressure of necros.
Yeah fighting them as a bunker guard blows 1v1. So if that arises, I call for support quick, or hopefully I’ll be on a large point like the graveyard where I can just dance all day until teammates can stroll through. Can’t really do much against them as a bunker guard but be frustrated.
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i think people misunderstood him, hes saying that engi as a class has access to too many things. not as a player how hard or easy it is to play…
He states clearly how engineers in his eyes are the most OP class. That could be due to the variety they have at their disposal within a team context. But i highy doubt he is talking about that.
If you look at his post history. He literally stated that engineers are his toughest 1v1 opponents while playing a necro. Post from the thread “Thoughest three opponents in 1v1”:
Engi definitely.
Mesmer comes in second.
And yes.. I will say elementalist. They have very good CC and can easily avoid all of your important skills and utilities thrown at them. They have amazing burst which means your chance for DS helping is very small.
So as necro his major gripes are with engineer, mesmer and elementalist. Could be me…but those are actually the 3 profession a necro mancer doesnt struggle with unless he gets outplayed or gets caught without life force.
Which I find hilarious that you made this relevant since you posted my response from that thread and somehow didn’t realize that the majority of responses were Engineer, mesmer and warrior.
Problem with engi’s is that they’re basically a hard counter to anyone running a melee build (except wars). They’ll just run around and kite as you simultaneously eat their bombs and nades.
So basically, engineers are a hard counter to double s/d thieves and guardians?
In all seriousness, it would be nice to know what you consider a “melee build.” Bomb/nade engineers do pretty well vs. most thief builds because their ranged pressure is about equal and thieves have trouble standing toe-to-toe with anything. That’s all that really comes to mind as far as stuff that engineers really counter.
Which I find hilarious that you made this relevant since you posted my response from that thread and somehow didn’t realize that the majority of responses were Engineer, mesmer and warrior.
You`are a necromancer….the hardcounter of engineer. I have 500+ games myself on necromancer and ive literally never met an engineer that was even close to a challenge. In fact …in most cases i apologize to the engineer after steamrolling him incredibly hard with little to no effort.
Im not sure if youre trolling or what …..but if you lose vs any engineer 1v1 (incl AR ones) as necro you got outplayed, big time.
