Guild Wars 2

by just removing spvp and replace it with tpvp, random pugs terrible vs pre-mades groups might be better. the constant dropping of team mates in spvp is terrible with the “auto balance” doing nothing at all. facing 4-5 thief/mesmers in one group with all these BS thieves is just insane. dodge one just to have 4 more HSing in ur direction or 12 clones coming to shatter on u..

not to mention when ur on the winning team at 400 to 100 just to be randomly booted from ur team… to the losing team right b4 the match ends…also idk how many times the game will add me to the winning team when the losing team is down over 200ptss… seems might be at least better to add more players to the losing team first by x margin than adding to an already stacked winning team.

there is no Structure to Structure pvp :/

nah if you die to a thief BS or HS you are just a noob, dont know you can EASY avoid those things with dodges???? you are a noob for sure, ask a “PRO” thief and they will say only noobs thief use BS/ HS build and only noobs die for that build, but if you create a topic saying to nerf BS or HS all thief start complain.

possante.8310:

nah if you die to a thief BS or HS you are just a noob, dont know you can EASY avoid those things with dodges???? you are a noob for sure, ask a “PRO” thief and they will say only noobs thief use BS/ HS build and only noobs die for that build, but if you create a topic saying to nerf BS or HS all thief start complain.

go away troll

just having fun here. this topic isnt for troll?? everyone know hot join suck and is a zerg fest.

exist lot and lot of topics complain about same issue….

I’m a level 39 thief and to tell you the truth I don’t think there is any way to avoid 3-4 thieves spamming HS or 10 clones not even with dodge.

Beyond the balance issues of 8v8, there are a few things that would dramatically increase the “structure” of spsp.

1) Make the capture points give personal and team points for actively defending, even when no one is around.

2) Decrease the amount of glory gained in direct relation to how far away you are from a capture point. BAM – no more idiots fighting miles away from the capture points. That would basically force morons to learn how capture point maps are supposed to be played.

3) Limit the amount of X class per team. This one might not be too popular of a suggestion, but it would certainly make pug matches much more enjoyable for everyone involved. There are enough matches going on for those left over thieves and mesmers to find a place to play….I promise

Some people need hot join – and its hard to get around the downfalls. I’ve experienced 5 thieves and 5 Mesmers (Thankfully on 2 seperate occasions lol). Terrifying from a distance, you’d avoid a point if you saw the amount of clones generated from 3 Mesmers on 1 point thinking it was the whole enemy team. I dont think clones should be this hard to spot, the more mesmers there are, the more frustrating it gets.

It’s hard to fix a situation like that, you can’t dictate to people how and what to play. It’s likely an overall balance issue, it’s going to take more time and changes for the “meta game to evolve”.

Some people play SPvP for fun, some for competition, and some just for farmin (they want the kool look, right now, and they will roll a thief with 4 friends and join the same games to make sure it happens).

urinfamousr.7631:

not to mention when ur on the winning team at 400 to 100 just to be randomly booted from ur team… to the losing team right b4 the match ends…a:/

You should still get the winning bonus (and i think that counts as a win on your account still? I dunno, never really cared enough to check).

TL:DR; No quick fix.

JohnCrow.7482:

Some people need hot join – and its hard to get around the downfalls. I’ve experienced 5 thieves and 5 Mesmers (Thankfully on 2 seperate occasions lol). Terrifying from a distance, you’d avoid a point if you saw the amount of clones generated from 3 Mesmers on 1 point thinking it was the whole enemy team. I dont think clones should be this hard to spot, the more mesmers there are, the more frustrating it gets.

It’s hard to fix a situation like that, you can’t dictate to people how and what to play. It’s likely an overall balance issue, it’s going to take more time and changes for the “meta game to evolve”.

Some people play SPvP for fun, some for competition, and some just for farmin (they want the kool look, right now, and they will roll a thief with 4 friends and join the same games to make sure it happens).

urinfamousr.7631:

not to mention when ur on the winning team at 400 to 100 just to be randomly booted from ur team… to the losing team right b4 the match ends…a:/

You should still get the winning bonus (and i think that counts as a win on your account still? I dunno, never really cared enough to check).

TL:DR; No quick fix.

well im not sure about that “win” count either. but more speaking from a fun and competitive point random groups can be great when ur on the winning team and bad when ur not. also the constant dropping of players would be done away with if pre-mades replaced spvp along with only X amount of classes allowed per group and turn it all into 5v5’s do away with 8v8.

create daily 1v1’s at certain times for an award or fame sort of thing.

With pre-mades it doesnt matter if X players drops or goes afk rage quits the pvp community who play spvp will just exclude X players from their groups over time..based on their pattern of play/trolling their own group

I’m not sure if hotjoin needs to go completely away—it functions nicely as a glory farm for people that want to glory farm.

Let’s have two browsers—one labeled “practice,” which is hotjoin. The other is a random vs random ranked single match, or 3v3 random arena, or…anything where you start at the beginning of a match and play to the end of a match against the same opponents.

xbutcherx.3861:

I’m a level 39 thief and to tell you the truth I don’t think there is any way to avoid 3-4 thieves spamming HS or 10 clones not even with dodge.

I think that goes for 3 or 4 of anything.