Guild Wars 2

These balance changes are absurd at best. They’re not going to even classes and even if they did in a remote sense team comp will always play a huge part in winning or losing a match. Can you please just lock characters so players can’t swap classes at the start of a game allowing balancing to be made with team comp as part of the algorithm. It’s stupid to start a game against 2 ele’s 1 rev 1 dh and 1 mes with 3 engies and 2 necros. I hate the idea of hard counters but apparently Anet love them so if they’re going to exist can we please lock character selections so that you can balance the game and not place 5 rocks vs 5 paper?

I too would like to see classes locked during match countdown. It’s too easy for players to just jump on a counter to whatever they see coming.

You can do the same.
Someone call this Strategy

not everyone can. And they shouldnt have to

I recomended this in my post a week or so ago.

1st off, if you are playing Ranked, and you think your are good enough to be in Ranked with your thief or warrior or whatever, than roll with the punches and play where, with and against whoever you get matched against. Dont kitten out and say “Im kittened” and swap to something else because you cant deal with Eles, Mez or Revs and your class sucks on whatever map you got. Learn to kittening adapt, or play a class you are good with.

2nd, not everyone has the time to play and become proficient with 3 or 4 classes and they shouldnt have to. The game is, or at least should be, taking into account group composition when making matches. For someone to then swap chars before the match starts would result in breaking the matchmaking system. I was even once told that part of the MMR system took into account your specific win/loss record with the class you are logged in with. A guildmate of mine who programs for ANET; however does not on PvP, did think that was a part, but couldnt be 100% certain since it is not the area they work with.

3rd, and a problem for a different reason, I have seen too many people try to swap chars, both on my teams or the other teams, and not get back in time. Match starts out as a 4v5 and the short handed team ends up so far behind and cant catch up. We already have issues with losing pips and double pips due to crap like that, we shouldnt be encouraging people to take the risk of logging out and back in for a better matchup.

Leave as is please.

Takina.1739:

not everyone can. And they shouldnt have to

I recomended this in my post a week or so ago.

1st off, if you are playing Ranked, and you think your are good enough to be in Ranked with your thief or warrior or whatever, than roll with the punches and play where, with and against whoever you get matched against. Dont kitten out and say “Im kittened” and swap to something else because you cant deal with Eles, Mez or Revs and your class sucks on whatever map you got. Learn to kittening adapt, or play a class you are good with.

2nd, not everyone has the time to play and become proficient with 3 or 4 classes and they shouldnt have to. The game is, or at least should be, taking into account group composition when making matches. For someone to then swap chars before the match starts would result in breaking the matchmaking system. I was even once told that part of the MMR system took into account your specific win/loss record with the class you are logged in with. A guildmate of mine who programs for ANET; however does not on PvP, did think that was a part, but couldnt be 100% certain since it is not the area they work with.

3rd, and a problem for a different reason, I have seen too many people try to swap chars, both on my teams or the other teams, and not get back in time. Match starts out as a 4v5 and the short handed team ends up so far behind and cant catch up. We already have issues with losing pips and double pips due to crap like that, we shouldnt be encouraging people to take the risk of logging out and back in for a better matchup.

Yeah I have been seeing this, too. Too many people tend to exploit game mechanics (outside of actual combat) rather than just playing the kitten game as it is. Anet should just give everyone wins for trying. It’s casual right? ;P

Yea, leave this as is. Players who are talented with multiple classes should get rewarded for that. There’s no grind restriction keeping anyone from doing this since you can level any new character to level 2, step into the mists, and pick whatever build/gear you want.

Basically, it’s the choice between rewarding someone based on skill or RNG.

There are no hard counters in the meta now except diamond skin vs full condi. And after the proposed balance change there will be 0.

Why would you want to get rid of a feature that stops 3 thiefs on a team?

swapping & counter comping is tatical & can stop games that were doomed from the start by fixing bad team comps. im in favour of it.