Guild Wars 2

does long queue mean bad games ?

after 7 minutes only got a game.

yeah, bad game for the other team.

we’re
tempest
reaper
reaper
chrono
warrior (me)

vs
3 reapers
1 dh
1 tempest

seems like they got a bugged player, maybe keyboard or mouse malfunction so its basically a 5 vs 4.

we opened with 1 home 3 mid 1 treb mid (me, i jumped onto the treb and started raining rocks on mid) the dh came for me, i think he stared at me for a few seconds before attacking me, maybe he was laying traps or something i dunno. i fought with the dh for a bit, then their ele came, however, we capped both home and mid by then. seems like they abandoned mid and came for me who was trebbing.

anyway, i can’t handle 2 so i fled up some stairs to hide and heal back up. feeling better, i got out of hiding, saw the ele who was now low on health after being attacked by one of my team mates, i assisted a bit and the ele was downed.

i ran up to mid, we got one team mate camping there, i look out the window, seems like we were losing home, so we got mid, but lost sides for a short while as they took our home.

so then i jumped out to grab the repair kit, then realize mid is kinda safe, i dropped the repair kit and went to check out far, seems like there is one reaper there, nvm, i’ll try my luck.

what the … that reaper is not on point, but hiding at a corner? auto running ? i start shooting arrows and decapping far. still auto running into the corner.

as i typed “sir, what are you doing?” in /say chat, the ele respawned and started attacking me, along with the dh, but far was capped, well, i dun wanna die to a 1v2 or 1v3 in case the bugged reaper started attacking so i ran and hid at the stairs near their spawn.

the dh chased me, we fought a bit but i put down the dh, more of my team mates came along and we started butchering them at far and spawn camping them.

the match became a 5 v 4 as the bugged player was able to move from their spawn.

after 3 capping and killing them at spawn, the match ended in our victory, and i finally graduated from emerald into sapphire !

i can finally graduate emerald into sapphire !

now i just need 25 more pips to reach ruby !

10.33 pm now.

too much adrenaline in my blood.
no more ranked for tonight.

otherwise i can’t sleep.

ImdA.4701:

when will you understand that noone give a kitten

well it doesn’t matter if no one gives a kitten or not.

i’m still providing some form of feedback, even though how casual it may be.

i think long queue and short queue always mean its going to be bad, for one of the teams

maybe blowout in your favor, maybe the baddies, but usu its going to be a blowout

Jaxom.7310:

i think long queue and short queue always mean its going to be bad, for one of the teams

maybe blowout in your favor, maybe the baddies, but usu its going to be a blowout

hmm long queue i think higher chance to have higher MMR difference between the 2 teams.

but short queue should be less likely right ?
as in it kinda means the match maker found 10 people with similar MMR (with the pip range) or something like that.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Jaxom.7310:

i think long queue and short queue always mean its going to be bad, for one of the teams

maybe blowout in your favor, maybe the baddies, but usu its going to be a blowout

hmm long queue i think higher chance to have higher MMR difference between the 2 teams.

but short queue should be less likely right ?
as in it kinda means the match maker found 10 people with similar MMR (with the pip range) or something like that.

i think if u log in, go into HotM, queue, and w/in 15 secs it pops, that would mean a group of people were already picked and it needed to fill in a spot and you were in that gap.

i think of it as, not looking for a good fit for you, but it had a group of people that u happen to fall into their range

Jaxom.7310:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Jaxom.7310:

i think long queue and short queue always mean its going to be bad, for one of the teams

maybe blowout in your favor, maybe the baddies, but usu its going to be a blowout

hmm long queue i think higher chance to have higher MMR difference between the 2 teams.

but short queue should be less likely right ?
as in it kinda means the match maker found 10 people with similar MMR (with the pip range) or something like that.

i think if u log in, go into HotM, queue, and w/in 15 secs it pops, that would mean a group of people were already picked and it needed to fill in a spot and you were in that gap.

i think of it as, not looking for a good fit for you, but it had a group of people that u happen to fall into their range

aaaaaaaaah you’re right !

that group of 9 could have been waiting for a very long time! O_O

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Jaxom.7310:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Jaxom.7310:

i think long queue and short queue always mean its going to be bad, for one of the teams

maybe blowout in your favor, maybe the baddies, but usu its going to be a blowout

hmm long queue i think higher chance to have higher MMR difference between the 2 teams.

but short queue should be less likely right ?
as in it kinda means the match maker found 10 people with similar MMR (with the pip range) or something like that.

i think if u log in, go into HotM, queue, and w/in 15 secs it pops, that would mean a group of people were already picked and it needed to fill in a spot and you were in that gap.

i think of it as, not looking for a good fit for you, but it had a group of people that u happen to fall into their range

aaaaaaaaah you’re right !

that group of 9 could have been waiting for a very long time! O_O

that’s my thinking at least.

7 minutes is not long. wtf are we playing the same game?

gin.7158:

7 minutes is not long. wtf are we playing the same game?

It is long. I have 3-4min in 10-15 pips diamond div range.

I had 32 min q last night when I wanted to queue while waiting for raids and I just cancelled after that lmao. RIP.

If you look at the match making algorithm, you’ll notice that the match maker starts expanding the rating range after four minutes. A pop before that means you’re in a match that fits the default rating and pip difference parameters. Between six and eight minutes ratings get padded, and after eight minutes you’ll be in a delicious limbo of anything goes. This is a safeguard that guarantees games for people at the extreme ends of the rating distribution curve.

To answer the OP’s question, a long queue does not necessarily result in a bad game, but it does mean more volatility, because the match includes players that can be either considerably better or worse than you are.

The longest I’ve ever been in queue was 41 minutes, but I suspect I was just bugged at that point. Anything beyond 10 minutes and I usually just cancel and re-queue.

If people think queue times are long in Season 3, just wait for Season 4. A vast majority of players (even casuals) will already have their wings and will not bother with Season 4.

Some players may only need 1 or 2 division crosses and if ANET uses the same placement system as this season where Rubies start in Emerald then those players may only need to play one match to get their division achievement.

I have friends who hated this system but got their wings last season or this season and now have either stopped pvp or are just messing with different classes/builds. This will only get worse next season.