when you enter a match and look at the other team only to see 2+ eles vs your 0-1 ele, every match i have like this requires extreme effort and communication vs no communication to win a close game or just flat out lose.
i am really confused by the devs choice to leave ele in the state it is in,
1. its not fun to fight against it
2. the person playing the ele spec is hardly awake and you can even see them going 1 2 3 4 switch 1 2 3 switch 1 2 3 switch rotate like i saw on yt dhuuurrrr…..
3.nothing counters it.. they have it all, by the time a cele necro gets anywhere they are in a 2v1 even if a team mate shows up its gg because 10 second ring of fire fire fire burning everywhere gg to your team mate.
you nerfed everything else that was obviously over the top so why is ele so special its making me hate the game, even thief with head shot spam is less annoying!!
you saw how strong it was in competition and even changed the rules after it (bit obvious why)
When you have a company who uses the words "Fun, Competitive Play, Challenge " all the time and to see it being use as a marketing strategy instead of using it in the game for their players: would you blame players not taking the game serious?
when you enter a match and look at the other team only to see 2+ eles vs your 0-1 ele, every match i have like this requires extreme effort and communication vs no communication to win a close game or just flat out lose.
Your title… this is why game suck as often as they do…
Yes, there is an issue with eles… Yes, there is an issue with class stacked teams… But don’t take it out on your teams by refusing to do anything. You just end up being the problem, and in my opinion a larger problem then eles them selves. At least if you fight, you give your team a chance to win.
Former PvP Forum Specialist 2015-2016
Fort Aspenwood
when you enter a match and look at the other team only to see 2+ eles vs your 0-1 ele, every match i have like this requires extreme effort and communication vs no communication to win a close game or just flat out lose.
Your title… this is why game suck as often as they do…
Yes, there is an issue with eles… Yes, there is an issue with class stacked teams… But don’t take it out on your teams by refusing to do anything. You just end up being the problem, and in my opinion a larger problem then eyes them selves. At least if you fight, you give your team a chance to win.
Or fighting just does the opposite and ends the game faster, 5 points per kill they get from people trying to contest a point :P
But really though, Cele eles and even to an extend cele mes/engi/etc. are kitten on the current state of sPvP
Zietlogik [Warrior] Chronologix [Ranger] Ziet The Dreaded [Necromancer] Zietlogic [Revenant]
when you enter a match and look at the other team only to see 2+ eles vs your 0-1 ele, every match i have like this requires extreme effort and communication vs no communication to win a close game or just flat out lose.
Your title… this is why game suck as often as they do…
Yes, there is an issue with eles… Yes, there is an issue with class stacked teams… But don’t take it out on your teams by refusing to do anything. You just end up being the problem, and in my opinion a larger problem then eyes them selves. At least if you fight, you give your team a chance to win.
Or fighting just does the opposite and ends the game faster, 5 points per kill they get from people trying to contest a point :P
That’s one way of looking at it; however, I rarely see 5v4 ending with the 4 winning. The times I do, it’s usually 2 people carrying the team and the other team just collapses out of pure frustration or getting to full of themselves.
Former PvP Forum Specialist 2015-2016
Fort Aspenwood
when you enter a match and look at the other team only to see 2+ eles vs your 0-1 ele, every match i have like this requires extreme effort and communication vs no communication to win a close game or just flat out lose.
Your title… this is why game suck as often as they do…
Yes, there is an issue with eles… Yes, there is an issue with class stacked teams… But don’t take it out on your teams by refusing to do anything. You just end up being the problem, and in my opinion a larger problem then eles them selves. At least if you fight, you give your team a chance to win.
How can people complain when they don’t even try? It disgusts me.
when you enter a match and look at the other team only to see 2+ eles vs your 0-1 ele, every match i have like this requires extreme effort and communication vs no communication to win a close game or just flat out lose.
Your title… this is why game suck as often as they do…
Yes, there is an issue with eles… Yes, there is an issue with class stacked teams… But don’t take it out on your teams by refusing to do anything. You just end up being the problem, and in my opinion a larger problem then eles them selves. At least if you fight, you give your team a chance to win.
The issue is more the refusal of ANET to do their job and actually balance broken items in game. Until they start balancing, this type of thread and in game activity will happen more frequently.
when you enter a match and look at the other team only to see 2+ eles vs your 0-1 ele, every match i have like this requires extreme effort and communication vs no communication to win a close game or just flat out lose.
Your title… this is why game suck as often as they do…
Yes, there is an issue with eles… Yes, there is an issue with class stacked teams… But don’t take it out on your teams by refusing to do anything. You just end up being the problem, and in my opinion a larger problem then eles them selves. At least if you fight, you give your team a chance to win.
The issue is more the refusal of ANET to do their job and actually balance broken items in game. Until they start balancing, this type of thread and in game activity will happen more frequently.
Then those people should just stop playing. And dont blame a person being a poor sport on Anet.
love how people instantly assume i afk in these situations…. i don’t but there really is not much point continuing to fight either, as soon as they get 2 points it becomes a downhill fight because of how long and easily they can contest/decap a point turning it into a no go zone with ease
when you enter a match and look at the other team only to see 2+ eles vs your 0-1 ele, every match i have like this requires extreme effort and communication vs no communication to win a close game or just flat out lose.
i am really confused by the devs choice to leave ele in the state it is in,
1. its not fun to fight against it
2. the person playing the ele spec is hardly awake and you can even see them going 1 2 3 4 switch 1 2 3 switch 1 2 3 switch rotate like i saw on yt dhuuurrrr…..
3.nothing counters it.. they have it all, by the time a cele necro gets anywhere they are in a 2v1 even if a team mate shows up its gg because 10 second ring of fire fire fire burning everywhere gg to your team mate.
you nerfed everything else that was obviously over the top so why is ele so special its making me hate the game, even thief with head shot spam is less annoying!!
you saw how strong it was in competition and even changed the rules after it (bit obvious why)
funny thing is that they nerfed the only 2 specs that could actually put up a good fight vs celestial dd (Shoutbow and Celestial Engi) lol
Anet didn’t change rules…ESL did cause they’re trying to balance what anet can’t bring in line
I can deal with classes, what I cannot deal with is the people who throw in the towel after a few minutes. It does my head in.
Do you honestly think you cannot turn things around? How do you know you are gonna lose. A loser attitude breeds a loser. I’ve had my fair share of people on my team giving up after five minutes. And its bittersweet when we win and its bitter when its close to a win. Please, please, the “if I meet two ele or mesmers Iam afking” is getting redundant. You might aswell just leave pvp and enjoy the other aspects of the game.
love how people instantly assume i afk in these situations….
A poor title is probably a reason
If i make a thread called
Death to Charrs
then complain about charrs
Would it be unreasonable for people to expect that I want charrs to die?
Work on your thread titles and the wording of your threads.
I don’t see an issue with the title at all, it’s pretty well known (and has been for a very long time now) that cele dd is garbage game design, with slightly more input required than say a turret engi, with exponential output.
There is no justifiable reason why there has been no change in the situation. It doesn’t take 12 meetings and 6 reworks to change a 3 to a 2 and add 5 seconds to the recharge (rof), and lower base damage by 10% across all d/d skills. That could be done in less than 2 minutes. It absolutely wouldn’t solve the issue of cele dd in entirety, but it would provide some kittening relief to every other class in the game.
It is unacceptable to have 5-8 eles in every single game (and not have other comps with equal power), and go completely against your previous statements of doing “frequent updates.”
This has always been an issue with anet, and honestly I’m kind of sick of every one having to repeat themselves over and over just to be placated and ultimately ignored. It’s time you start hiring people from these forums and get rid of the dead weight in your teams. CLEARLY not every one is working to their potential.
Meh it could use a bit of tweaking but I don’t really consider anything game breaking for me lol. Sometimes I pvp and beat the heck out of people, sometimes they beat the heck out of me, big whoop who cares lol. At the end of the day this is a game and I’m playing it to have fun, that’s the wonderful thing about the game. If you don’t like it it’ll be over soon and you can start a new one. Heck if I get into a match and I’m fighting my least fav builds and getting my butt handed to me, I refuse to leave and screw my team worse lol. Win or lose I’ll stick it out till the match is over and still type a gg before I pop out in the aftermath. Just have fun and enjoy it for what it is, a game. If your not having fun anymore may be time to reevaluate where you spend your time. =)
love how people instantly assume i afk in these situations….
A poor title is probably a reason
If i make a thread called
Death to Charrs
then complain about charrs
Would it be unreasonable for people to expect that I want charrs to die?
Work on your thread titles and the wording of your threads.
May as well afk
Not
Just AFK
or
I AFK
May as well afk
The OP is equating fighting a team with 2 eles while his team has none to having results nearly identical to not fighting in the match at all.
This does not mean he is AFK but, simply conveying the idea that not fighting and fighting eles produce the same results ie a loss.
The sad part is rampant emotions, lack of understanding, and greatest of all jumping to conclusions leads to these types of misinterpretations and misunderstandings all the time. The penchant of many to read the title solely skipping the body of the first post is the root cause in this case. People seem to hate to read and love to write.
If any of you fail to understand that you need to read more.
Kor The Cold Heart War Wrekkes-Engineer Kore Rok Thief-Asraithe-Ele
when you enter a match and look at the other team only to see 2+ eles vs your 0-1 ele, every match i have like this requires extreme effort and communication vs no communication to win a close game or just flat out lose.
Your title… this is why game suck as often as they do…
Yes, there is an issue with eles… Yes, there is an issue with class stacked teams… But don’t take it out on your teams by refusing to do anything. You just end up being the problem, and in my opinion a larger problem then eles them selves. At least if you fight, you give your team a chance to win.
The issue is more the refusal of ANET to do their job and actually balance broken items in game. Until they start balancing, this type of thread and in game activity will happen more frequently.
Then those people should just stop playing. And dont blame a person being a poor sport on Anet.
Doesn’t change the fact that ANET is largely at fault here. The balance team is a disgrace. It has taken them over 2 months to fix items that were clearly broken. Embarrassing.
when you enter a match and look at the other team only to see 2+ eles vs your 0-1 ele, every match i have like this requires extreme effort and communication vs no communication to win a close game or just flat out lose.
Your title… this is why game suck as often as they do…
Yes, there is an issue with eles… Yes, there is an issue with class stacked teams… But don’t take it out on your teams by refusing to do anything. You just end up being the problem, and in my opinion a larger problem then eles them selves. At least if you fight, you give your team a chance to win.
The issue is more the refusal of ANET to do their job and actually balance broken items in game. Until they start balancing, this type of thread and in game activity will happen more frequently.
Then those people should just stop playing. And dont blame a person being a poor sport on Anet.
Doesn’t change the fact that ANET is largely at fault here. The balance team is a disgrace. It has taken them over 2 months to fix items that were clearly broken. Embarrassing.
we need esl devs to balance gw2 ingame pvp
not even joking…they actually understand this game way better than devs themselves
