Guild Wars 2

CMstorm.8679:

And also, this is a fun map and is more skill-based. All the “broken abused bad map mechanics” of the map that you guys whine about, is what makes the map fun. There’s hardly anything broken about the map at all. It comes down to skill and positioning, mainly positioning.

Hahahahaha, every sentence in the above quote is a complete joke.

The map is all about, can I spam aoe conditions and have easy access to pulls/knockbacks/fear?

Its the only map in the rotation that people nearly always complain about in game. I never hear people say “oh kitten I hate this map” when foefire etc pops; but I hear this in nearly every game of skyhammer.

If there was an option to quit the match once we knew it was going to be skyhammer it would be no big deal, but we are forced to play it if it pops during solo queue.

I even hate it when I play a build that has access to a lot of fear/knockbacks or stability. There is no satisfaction in fearing three players off the edge after a knockback. It just makes me realize how sad the map is- especially in tournaments!

Skyhammer + knockbacks = Unlimited amount of laughter

I refuse to play skyhammer map in tpvp anymore, it is just a waste of time.

I would like it if there was a way to decline a game that I have queued for once I see that skyhammer has popped in solo queue so that someone else could be chosen in my place.

I don’t care what the penalty is, even if my account got deleted- I will just quit this map whenever it pops.

For reasons see the numerous complaint threads about this map.

Yeah, the map is pretty bad for solo Q, but not bad enough to screw over my teammates by leaving

No can do. No map is so bad that I’d feel okay about causing a 4v5.

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

NevirSayDie.6235:

No can do. No map is so bad that I’d feel okay about causing a 4v5.

I don’t suggest anyone else does it, I just want to communicate that the map is so bad for tpvp that I would rather not play GW2 at all than be forced to play it. Many other players have said a similar thing, but maybe the message hasn’t gotten through.

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

It has nothing to do with it. I have a full-cc warrior as well. Still hate the cheesy map.

Your comment shows that you have not listened whatsoever to the concerns raised by other players about this map.

Me and my friend have a sinking suspicion that most of the people complaining about the Skyhammer change are hammer warriors.

I LOVE SKYHAMMER.

Best MAP 2013.

It’s unlike any other map (thank goodness) and requires certain builds and a different play style. I’ve seen all classes do well on it, some more than others. I’d say just suck it up and adapt. Keep a character set up for Skyhammer and switch to it if the map pops. Why make your team suffer because of incompetence?

After the railing was added I think this map wouldn’t be so bad if two simple changes were made:

• Delay on glass breaking increased by half a second (You have a chance to get off if someone pulls you instantly and a warning if they don’t)
• Cannon made dodgeable

I love the layout of the map itself, but the cannon is OTT rediculous and the glass panels on the side point are beyond frustrating.

just remove dat kitten from soloq…and even from whole pvp maybe..

I like skyhammer. Should be added to team tpvp queue too

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

Please remind me where my CC and Stability comes from as a Thief? I seem to have misplaced them!

Incurafy.6329:

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

Please remind me where my CC and Stability comes from as a Thief? I seem to have misplaced them!

Thieves next to engis are the main offenders of the annoying “lel scorpion wire into imob on glass panel” kitten.

Just let me choose whether i want to be in this map queue or not.

PLEASE

i cant understand why this map is still in soloQ rotation

show some balls arenanet and make your next tournament on this map. NO? than stop forcing us to play this bull……

I play a GS+S/F Mesmer in tPvP and I still dislike this map. Huge cheese-fest of CC.

It’s my favorite map…it was…before the number of glass panels got split in two, and theres fences in place at the lazer pew pew… It’s ruined now !

It was so much fun, why did they do that…wwwwhhhhyyyy…..

Yeah I can’t deal with the bs that is this map. 90% of people don’t try to fight, they just try to push/pull/knock you off

Ok guys… I feel sorry for you so I’m gonna spoon feed you with the most atrociously effective Skyhammer build I’ve seen yet.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQFAUlIqicn1SfF87IyoHdmotZgekX+1IKqQ+B-TkAA1CnIqRVjrGTNyas1M+A

If you can run this and use it effectively, you can get at least 8 kills from using the glass and sides per match.

My biggest issue with Skyhammer is that it feels too much like a TDM map.

This map fully unbalanse. Hate it

is this the map where you can get rank 50 fast?

Relentless.7023:

Ok guys… I feel sorry for you so I’m gonna spoon feed you with the most atrociously effective Skyhammer build I’ve seen yet.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQFAUlIqicn1SfF87IyoHdmotZgekX+1IKqQ+B-TkAA1CnIqRVjrGTNyas1M+A

If you can run this and use it effectively, you can get at least 8 kills from using the glass and sides per match.

You seem to have misunderstood. Most people who play pvp a lot know and likely use cheese builds for the cheese map.

What you have posted is actually a reason why I will not play this map in tpvp.

alcopaul.2156:

is this the map where you can get rank 50 fast?

Was. Since they altered the glory gain system it isn’t anymore.

Writetyper.1985:

Incurafy.6329:

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

Please remind me where my CC and Stability comes from as a Thief? I seem to have misplaced them!

Thieves next to engis are the main offenders of the annoying “lel scorpion wire into imob on glass panel” kitten.

That’s literally the ONLY utility that we can use to abuse the terrible design of this map, and you still haven’t pointed out where my Stability to counter the “insert word here” players who do that comes from. :P

After playing for a few hours and getting mostly Skyhammer, I’m done. From this point onwards I will be leaving every single Skyhammer match I get, regardless of whether or not this created 4v5s, I refuse to waste 10 minutes of my time praying to FSM that the match is a quick blowout so that I can leave.

For goodness sake, Anet, we love the fact that you tried to improve the map, but the map itself is just so horribly flawed that it should NOT be in Solo Q; you removed it from Team Q for a reason! ;\

I hate Skyhammer. Please make it optional in solo q. I’d rather see Raid of the Capricorn as a tourny map than this abomination.

this is the worst map invented lol. As if the shooting people off ledge wasnt bad enough they stuck a big as cannon that causes knock down and 10k damage in the center. lmfao

Totaly unbalanced map. Bad design to begin with.
Same problems than in Raid on the Capricorn. There you have water with OP classes and here you have whole map with OP skills.

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

what if my class doesn’t have stability…. nor really good CCs?

Lately I kept losing on that map, but it’s still my favourite. Quite fun.

Incurafy.6329:

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

Please remind me where my CC and Stability comes from as a Thief? I seem to have misplaced them!

Incurafy.6329:

Writetyper.1985:

Incurafy.6329:

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

Please remind me where my CC and Stability comes from as a Thief? I seem to have misplaced them!

Thieves next to engis are the main offenders of the annoying “lel scorpion wire into imob on glass panel” kitten.

That’s literally the ONLY utility that we can use to abuse the terrible design of this map, and you still haven’t pointed out where my Stability to counter the “insert word here” players who do that comes from. :P

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After playing for a few hours and getting mostly Skyhammer, I’m done. From this point onwards I will be leaving every single Skyhammer match I get, regardless of whether or not this created 4v5s, I refuse to waste 10 minutes of my time praying to FSM that the match is a quick blowout so that I can leave.

For goodness sake, Anet, we love the fact that you tried to improve the map, but the map itself is just so horribly flawed that it should NOT be in Solo Q; you removed it from Team Q for a reason! ;\

for stability I believe you could start your dagger storm and then cancel it…sorry been a while since I played thief don’t know if it still works

Infamous Darkness.3284:

Incurafy.6329:

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

Please remind me where my CC and Stability comes from as a Thief? I seem to have misplaced them!

Incurafy.6329:

Writetyper.1985:

Incurafy.6329:

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

Please remind me where my CC and Stability comes from as a Thief? I seem to have misplaced them!

Thieves next to engis are the main offenders of the annoying “lel scorpion wire into imob on glass panel” kitten.

That’s literally the ONLY utility that we can use to abuse the terrible design of this map, and you still haven’t pointed out where my Stability to counter the “insert word here” players who do that comes from. :P

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After playing for a few hours and getting mostly Skyhammer, I’m done. From this point onwards I will be leaving every single Skyhammer match I get, regardless of whether or not this created 4v5s, I refuse to waste 10 minutes of my time praying to FSM that the match is a quick blowout so that I can leave.

For goodness sake, Anet, we love the fact that you tried to improve the map, but the map itself is just so horribly flawed that it should NOT be in Solo Q; you removed it from Team Q for a reason! ;\

for stability I believe you could start your dagger storm and then cancel it…sorry been a while since I played thief don’t know if it still works

and then what? dagger storm is really long CD while knockback i spammable in comparison

Incurafy.6329:

Please remind me where my CC and Stability comes from as a Thief? I seem to have misplaced them!

Runes of Lyssa + basi venom = third-highest stability uptime in the game (behind bunker guardians and warriors)

Besides, skyhammer is essentially a map about stealth. Stability is trivial.

NevirSayDie.6235:

Incurafy.6329:

Please remind me where my CC and Stability comes from as a Thief? I seem to have misplaced them!

Runes of Lyssa + basi venom = third-highest stability uptime in the game (behind bunker guardians and warriors)

Besides, skyhammer is essentially a map about stealth. Stability is trivial.

because when i queue i know i gonna get skyhammer and can switch runes rq right?

I love skyhammer personally. Don’t be kittened, change your build/play differently. Don’t get mad because other people change their strategy and you don’t, leaving you at a disadvantage. Just because it’s different doesn’t mean it’s bad.

Maethar.5627:

I love skyhammer personally. Don’t be kittened, change your build/play differently. Don’t get mad because other people change their strategy and you don’t, leaving you at a disadvantage. Just because it’s different doesn’t mean it’s bad.

you mean play classes that can spam knockback? ok let’s all roll engis and necros

To be honest, I just don’t know, why the requirements for team-queue maps are higher than solo-queue.
Teams have better ways to set up their Builds, and communicate, thus they can deal with…however you want to call it…maps like Skyhammer more easily, then a bunch of randoms.

Cynz.9437:

NevirSayDie.6235:

Incurafy.6329:

Please remind me where my CC and Stability comes from as a Thief? I seem to have misplaced them!

Runes of Lyssa + basi venom = third-highest stability uptime in the game (behind bunker guardians and warriors)

Besides, skyhammer is essentially a map about stealth. Stability is trivial.

because when i queue i know i gonna get skyhammer and can switch runes rq right?

Well you don’t have to take stability. As I said, it’s not very important on skyhammer. But the point is that thieves can build for quite a bit of stability if they want, so I thought it was a weird thing to say.

Cynz.9437:

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

what if my class doesn’t have stability…. nor really good CCs?

For thief its good to steal fear off necros, then shadow step into a group while stealthed and trigger the fear. I have knocked 3 people off the map like that.

However, knowing the cheesy moves just reconfirms how silly it is to have that map in a ranked game (ie. solo queue). I can avoid it in normal hotjoin very easily, but have to leave my team short when it pops in SQ.

Yasha.5963:

Cynz.9437:

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

what if my class doesn’t have stability…. nor really good CCs?

For thief its good to steal fear off necros, then shadow step into a group while stealthed and trigger the fear. I have knocked 3 people off the map like that.

However, knowing the cheesy moves just reconfirms how silly it is to have that map in a ranked game (ie. solo queue). I can avoid it in normal hotjoin very easily, but have to leave my team short when it pops in SQ.

i know i can do those things along with scorpion wire to glass from stealth

the question is, is it really that great of gameplay…

if i go to pvp, i want to fight players not map or their pets…

Cynz.9437:

because when i queue i know i gonna get skyhammer and can switch runes rq right?

Actually, most players carry a full kitten nal of different sigils, weapons, and runesets in their inventory so that they can make adjustments before the match starts.

Regardless, Trollhammer needs to be removed or at least changed. It’s a terrible map as it is right now. It would at LEAST take a large step in the right direction if they made the cannon dodge-able. As it stands right now, sitting on cannon turns the game into nothing more than a point-and-click adventure game.

I’m doing this from now on. If anyone sticks up for this map it’s because you run the full bs build on either a necro or engi.

sirflamesword.3896:

I’m doing this from now on. If anyone sticks up for this map it’s because you run the full bs build on either a necro or engi.

Well, there is no choice really- you either play the cheese map for 10-15 mins or log out and take a break for that time. For me logging out is much more enjoyable.

skyhammer is pointless its just a knock off the map or down a hole there is no real skill they need to stop adding in stupid gimmicks to maps… one of these days i hope they make a map with 3 points thats it just pure PvP, no cannons, npcs, pitfalls, orbs, ect…

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

thiefs dont have stability or kncokbacks/knochdowns/airknocks, so delete this tubpid map

a t s e.9614:

The people that hate skyhammer refuse to adapt their build . Bring CC and stability , I know you give up on some stuff but knocking people off the cliff is fun . Skyhammer is my favourite map and I don’t want it to be removed it from the game . I always win on skyhammer , 75% W\L ratio on that map , it’s where my build shines , a full CC warrior

I play a warrior.

I’ll NEVER play hambow or other OP cc builds. I like GS, and going in and out of melee. At least it’s a bit more complicated.

But on Skyhammer, that is pointless: one of my whirlwind might end my life.
I HAVE to play hammer. And NO. It’s not fun. Smashing people by playing a sequence of buttons is not funny. As it’s not getting knocked out by skills you can’t avoid. Or playing in spaces so narrow you can barely see what the hell is going on.

The whole map is a mess and pretty unfun. Wipe it out of the game.

And no, it’s not refusal to adapt, or hate towards new maps: I enjoy spirit watch, and temple of the silent storm is my favorite map.

Yasha.5963:

I refuse to play skyhammer map in tpvp anymore, it is just a waste of time.

I don’t care what the penalty is, even if my account got deleted- I will just quit this map whenever it pops.

Please permaban this guy for 4v5 afk – thx.

If u dont want to play the map dont play soloq simple yes. I dont like all the maps / a bunch of players/bad builds. But when i sign up i would smash my keyboard just to win. Afk is not an option.

so yea ban this guy please.