Guild Wars 2

the possibility to one-shot your opponents does not deserve to be in tournaments.

its ok to keep it as a cheese map. its ok to adjust your build to a map. but to reroll to a spec that would kill nothing but in skyhammer is just too redonkulous for a tournament mode.

maybe if it gets out of rotation the frustration level on skyhammer will go away and there may be even cheesy community-tournaments with skyhammer only?

this 2014 i can remove skyhammer on my que.

I just keep going pug alone in tpvp…no dumbhammer and cheesewatch, still no reward for being top ladder so…who cares? Just leave yoloq already and go pug in tpvp if you want a more enjoyable game, no joke.

nooo. its my favorite map

It probably won’t go anyway, to be honest.

I’m just glad it’s only in solo que. At least there I can deal with it because the system is kind of a joke anyway.

This is the absolute worst map I’ve ever played in any multiplayer game. The skyhammer is an overpowering mechanic, and the map design favors classes with high stability uptime and/or large amounts of CC to use the map to troll.

There is no semblance of skill or balance on the map. Why is it even in Solo Q? It’s already been decided it isn’t a competitive map, which is why it isn’t in Team Q, so it shouldn’t have any bearing in any queue associated with a leaderboard.

Seriously, this is the kind of bullkitten that keeps the pvp population from growing (and is more than likely reducing the population). Get this kitten out of the queue, and honestly, I don’t think many people would be that sad if it was just disabled altogether and made unplayable from now until eternity, except for the skyhammer trolls, and let’s be honest, skyhammer trolls shouldn’t be your target audience, your competitive community should.

Not that there is much of a competitive community left because of kitten like skyhammer, but hey, better late than never.

kito.1827:

the possibility to one-shot your opponents does not deserve to be in tournaments.

So you’re leading the charge for an ele vitality buff? Funny, I haven’t seen that thread.

Idfea:

Remove cannon
Remove altitude
Remove breaking panels
Remove 2 capture points
Egalize the entire map
Enlarge the one remaining point to cover 90% of the map
Remove players
Add 1 npc on either side
Reintroduce spectating.

For the people still saying they actually enjoy the map. Think about other classes then Warriors or Engineers. I can not do ANYthing competitive as an Ele in Skyhammer.
I have NO knockbacks, NO stability without Armor of Earth, I need ALOT of space to run around in which makes it even easier for enemies to drop me in one of the 3 holes on nodes or sides. The map has MANY things blocking your view, which once again makes it harder for the Elementalist due to ground targeting getting kittened up or simply not seeing what other people are doing. I surely don’t have to tell you all that due to Ele’s squishyness there is simply nothing more important then dodging attacks and seeing what the enemy is doing, right?

For if you didn’t know already. !!!!!!THE MAP IS NOT BALANCED!!!!!!

Arenanet, there are seriously only a FEW other things you could do to make the game worse. This is SO unacceptable. I can in NO way see how you could make such a map. An unfair map in Tournaments?!?! What the hell are you thinking?!?!

I no single way do you show any kind of feeling that you want to interact with PvP players. Nothing is fair, 1.5 years further and still only 1 type of game and on top of that, you managed to create a map SO unfair, it keeps people from SoloQing.
How many posts now without a reaction? How many posts without a Dev or anyone from ANet saying SOMETHING that could warm the hearts of dedicated PvP players?

Right now I had 4 Skyhams in a row. Last 7 games were – 2 Skyhams, something else (can’t remember what, my head is killing me atm), 4 Skyhams.

I can’t stand this map with all honest, but I play it and I don’t mind if it’s 1 of 10 for example. But 6-7 of 10? Come on! And I never never win on Skyhammer. Doesn’t matter what I play and what I do I always lose.

Today I played 15 soloQ games, won 2 lost 13, half of them Skyhammer and I’m about to brake my laptop in the wall. And I’m a very very patient person. Why you hate me so much Anet?

Here is my last game, do you think we had any chance at all?

i might be the only person on this forum that enjoys skyhammer, because it’s hilarious to troll lowbies

What do you mean “troll”?

The map is so bugged, can you for kitten sake remove it from Que and fix the map. Stop wreaking the game.

Hey, look what happened to me! I got to fight invulnerable NPCs for enough of the match to make a difference. Great map.

Eyia Hellhide.7320:

What do you mean “troll”?

I have an alternate account I use to practice classes I usually don’t play on. Whenever skyham pops on this map, I swap to engi and cheese the kitten out of everyone. Account has low MMR too.

+1 to remove skyhammer.

The answer is to stop playing solo queue (aka skyhammer queue) and just queue team (even as a solo player). I did this and it has made my game experience 100% better.

No more skyhammer, usually fairly balanced games with teammates that know what they are doing, and no 4vs5s (or worse) yet.

considering the level of communication ANet has given us recently, it is quite depressing that a 400 post thread has not prompted an official reply.

Skyhammer has caused tremendous damage to the PvP community both through hotjoin & soloQ. can we not address this & stop the bleeding?

faeral.7120:

considering the level of communication ANet has given us recently, it is quite depressing that a 400 post thread has not prompted an official reply.

Skyhammer has caused tremendous damage to the PvP community both through hotjoin & soloQ. can we not address this & stop the bleeding?

^ This.

Don’t worry! Only a few hundred more posts and I’m sure ANet will eventually show up.
Or something.

I’d rather play 10 skyhammer than 1 Spirit Watch. Seriously.

The worst part of the cannon is if I happen to be a glass Ele. It removes around ~90% of my health in 1 hit. That’s not even funny.

so, the elitist pvp’ers of the action oriented, “i can cast it all while running and jumping”, mmorpg gw2 deny a pvp map that bring all the fun things like jumping pads, traps(glass), deadly edges to be pushed over AND then have the nerves to say: it’s too much!!!

the essence of this outrage is the following: you dont want to be punished for taking a false step, for not thinking ahead in pvp

you have friggin possibilities on this map. while i must admit that some classes have it by default or a very easy access to those possibilities: everyone can use or abuse skyhammer’s environment for their own advantage.

yes, the cannon hits like a truck, but can be evaded easily.

this kind of battleground(map design) has a “long” tradition in FPS games like Quake and Unreal Tournament and many offspring games. when someone came to the server and asked:
“Yo, guys, what am I doing wrong?” Ppl answered: Dude, learn the game, learn the map, (learn)know your enemy(behaviour)

if someone feels offended, that was intended.

Please just remove this map from tpvp already.

I think this map could work if they toned down the gimmicks. Just get rid of the holes you can fall through, completely. Then halve the cannon’s damage and double the time it takes to cooldown.

I think the jump pads are interesting. Make all the z-axis play the main gimmick. The cannon should be a minor boost, not a gamebreaking necessity.

Jumping in as well to say I absolutely despise this map. Even winning is frustrating as hell.

Keep Skyhammer.

Add Groundhammer and Waterhammer.

Away with this unbalanced map.
Remove it from SoloQ right now. And start thinking of possible solutions to this map for competitive play after you do this. We can not wait for your months of listening to players and not doing anything at all meanwhile, only to fail at fixing it in yet another not thought-through and completely E-sport unworthy method.

entropy.9613:

Keep Skyhammer.

Add Groundhammer and Waterhammer.

Groundhammer strikes launch you high enough into the air that fall damage kills (unless traited). However, if you have the Groundhammer buff (which you obtain in the hidden cave by fighting your own ghost with a lightsaber), you take no fall damage and instead cause AoE damage and knockdown where you land.

Waterhammers on each side of the map push characters laterally towards a pool in the middle filled with flesh-eating piranhas. Characters caught between both Waterhammer jets are instantly downed. Periodic tsunamis damage and knockdown characters who do not have the floaties buff or a surfboard equipped.

Coming soon: Spacehammer!

So people are straight up taking dishonored stacks rather than play Skyhammer at this point. Just got out of a 3v5.

Here ya go guys, a wonderful first episode to a great series coming up, enjoy! I whiffed the first one but the rest are…well you’ll see.

http://www.twitch.tv/bigheart_gamer/c/3522285

Please make the hurting stop.

Remove this abbomination from the soloqueue.

Its one of the main reasons why GW2 pvp participation is on the same level as 10-15 year old games. Its one of the main reasons why im literally ashamed to show friends PvP in this game.

And please tell the guy who designed this to stick to designing minigames. Hire guys that have proper esports/pvp experience instead, since you obviously dont have those in house atm.

I am normally one of the most possitive guys (if you look at my posting history youll see) that sees the pros in any MMO. But this is just to horrible. Ive never “hated” playing on a pvp map so much as this one.

How long do I have to deal with troll Engineer and Necromancer builds in this stupid map? Really?! Remove this map from ranked matches already!

I bet you don’t say that when they are in your team.

Honestly, I do…it takes no talent to run pure knockbacks, fears, pulls, w/e

Just get rid of the glass panels, and I wouldn’t have a problem with the map. You could still knock people off. It would be a lot harder, but it would require outplaying your opponent.

I do not know how many threads anet needs to figure out this map is not welcome in ranked matches.

remove already!

SoLeciTO.3490:

I do not know how many threads anet needs to figure out this map is not welcome in ranked matches.

Only 1 thread, because all the other threads get merged into this one

So I guess at least the ANet employee who is merging these threads is aware of how badly the community wants Skyhammer gone.

That’s the best acknowledgement we can hope for.

I AGREE 100%…. ever fight an engi traited just for skyhammer? Takes all the skill out of fighting. I was going to make a post until I saw this. I hope ANET turns this map into a hotjoin map like raid of capricorn. I myself have went afk or just logged out because of skyhammer in tpvp… (rank 55 necro/thief) it’s a waste of time and kills my mood =/

Why inflict the worst PvP map on new players in HoT join. The map is such a troll fest it would make people quit PvP entirely.

If it isn’t good enough for Team play it shouldn’t be forced on anyone else until it is fixed.

It’s biased to certain classes. The Cannon is much too powerful and the cannon room is a necromancer’s wet dream.

Just remove it entirely until you have fixed it.

From a PvE art point of view the map is very creative and beautifully designed. From a PvP point of view it sucks hairy…

I think my gif is pretty accurate of how fun this map is :P

Veteran Oakheart.4035:

I think my gif is pretty accurate of how fun this map is :P

What about this? http://youtu.be/8ot8Hy-IIa4

:p

bump for removal.

can’t see this being a time consuming task & would make so many ppl happy.

you’re bleeding players into teamQ, ruining quality of matches for teams who actually want to practice. this map has essentially reverted the game to a “pre-soloQ state”.

not that leaderboards were in a terrific state, but now the win % for teams will inflate further with pugs once again getting farmed by teams in teamQ ( which the pugs still prefer to Skyhammer, go figure ).

stop the bleeding. remove this map.

Yes pls remove this map…is not fun

Is it possible to just leave match before it starts without messing up team? i hate this map and dont wish to play it.

Some sort of veto system would definitely be really nice for solo Q… Will we ever see one get implemented? Probably not.

The easiest thing to do would be to just send it the way of RoC and make it hot join only. You would think that, with the amount of gimmicky kitten that happens on Skyhammer and the amount of ppl that complain about it everyday, this would be an easy decision. My theory is that someone high up in Anet had a hand in designing or theorizing this map and no one wants to hurt his feewings.

Eri.8560:

Some sort of veto system would definitely be really nice for solo Q… Will we ever see one get implemented? Probably not.

The easiest thing to do would be to just send it the way of RoC and make it hot join only. You would think that, with the amount of gimmicky kitten that happens on Skyhammer and the amount of ppl that complain about it everyday, this would be an easy decision. My theory is that someone high up in Anet had a hand in designing or theorizing this map and no one wants to hurt his feewings.

You will play it and you will like it, because they made it…and that’s final.

I can’t believe this map is still in the rotation. WTH are you thinking anet

Marcos.3690:

I can’t believe this map is still in the rotation. WTH are you thinking anet

They are thinking, they built a map that “a lot of people hate and a lot of people like it, it’s very popular” Grouchasaurus Rex

like the title says i want to know if i can leave Q when skyhammer pops without messing up team. This is solo Q

No, but many would like to….