Guild Wars 2

That’s made that even the worst player can gain the wings with enough grinding. And because someone has to lose (most players are around 50% win/lose rate – depending if you win-lose or win win win – lose lose lose you gain pips)

The downside – a lot of bad players conglomerate at low tier ruby – but it’s similar on low tier diamond

The “safe pips” prop up an uneven matchmaking. Without that, players would be quickly forced out of the mid range. Intuition says that with current matchmaking, the vast majority would be in Amber/Emerald.

You really can’t have it both ways. Speedy separation of the “skill” levels or no safety nets.

Also, ANET chose to make the shiny dependent on wins. A lack of safe pips would make the prize near unobtanium.

Since the player base is so small, ANET needs to attract new blood. There chosen method of doing that was a “legendary” shiny. Unfortunately, ANET chose to alienate the same new blood by exposing them to murderous odds with the matchmaking.

It will be interesting to see which way the season 4 matchmaking goes.

Ithilwen.1529:

Intuition says that with current matchmaking, the vast majority would be in Amber/Emerald.

So? What’s wrong with that? 80% of the LoL playerbase in Bronze and Silver anyways with the rest spread out to Gold, Plat, Diamond and the top 50 in Challenger. People aren’t supposed to congregate in mid tier anyways.

Tell that to the dozens of posters here qqing about not being able to get out of emerald or sapphire.

Vicky.4563:

Ithilwen.1529:

Intuition says that with current matchmaking, the vast majority would be in Amber/Emerald.

So? What’s wrong with that? 80% of the LoL playerbase in Bronze and Silver anyways with the rest spread out to Gold, Plat, Diamond and the top 50 in Challenger. People aren’t supposed to congregate in mid tier anyways.

It’s okay when you have big enough population that even that remaining 20% spread out among all the other divisions still means that each division is highly populated.
This is not the situation in GW2.

Astralporing.1957:

Vicky.4563:

Ithilwen.1529:

Intuition says that with current matchmaking, the vast majority would be in Amber/Emerald.

So? What’s wrong with that? 80% of the LoL playerbase in Bronze and Silver anyways with the rest spread out to Gold, Plat, Diamond and the top 50 in Challenger. People aren’t supposed to congregate in mid tier anyways.

It’s okay when you have big enough population that even that remaining 20% spread out among all the other divisions still means that each division is highly populated.
This is not the situation in GW2.

It’ll work itself out naturally. Top players wouldn’t be able to move past something like Ruby rank due to lack of player population to que with. That would mean Ruby therefore becomes the highest skilled “division” until players manage to distribute themselves out further.

If players find that an issue, then the easiest solution is to either expand the matchmaking ranges, or make divisions solely based on MMR.

Yes, but division crossings are required for the shiny. So, preventing crossings counters the value of the shiny.

In addition there have been avalanches of complaints that fellow players are too weak and opposition players too strong.

ANET was clearly trying to get a separation so that super teams didn’t go around noob stomping/farming for fun.

Safe pips are the crutch that was meant to counterbalance uneven matches and speed players apart. Unfortunately, that’s been circumvented by two things; The matchmaking is creating matches so extreme that the separation never happens and people are subverting the system by re rolling to new accounts.

Ithilwen.1529:

Yes, but division crossings are required for the shiny. So, preventing crossings counters the value of the shiny.

On the contrary, that would actually increase the value of the shiny. Less people able to obtain it, higher prestige value.

Ithilwen.1529:

In addition there have been avalanches of complaints that fellow players are too weak and opposition players too strong.

ANET was clearly trying to get a separation so that super teams didn’t go around noob stomping/farming for fun.

You speak with such authority. Proof please?

Ithilwen.1529:

Safe pips are the crutch that was meant to counterbalance uneven matches and speed players apart. Unfortunately, that’s been circumvented by two things; The matchmaking is creating matches so extreme that the separation never happens and people are subverting the system by re rolling to new accounts.

Again, proof. And really, how many people are going around buying $50 accounts to redo the very fun and thrilling leagues? And if you’re being stomped by a bunch of F2P core accounts with unviable builds, then that’s just sad.

You should lose tiers and divisions starting in Sapphire. So people would have a chance to drop within their losing streaks instead of piling up in Ruby or even Diamond.

Vicky.4563:

Ithilwen.1529:

Yes, but division crossings are required for the shiny. So, preventing crossings counters the value of the shiny.

On the contrary, that would actually increase the value of the shiny. Less people able to obtain it, higher prestige value.

Ithilwen.1529:

In addition there have been avalanches of complaints that fellow players are too weak and opposition players too strong.

ANET was clearly trying to get a separation so that super teams didn’t go around noob stomping/farming for fun.

You speak with such authority. Proof please?

Ithilwen.1529:

Safe pips are the crutch that was meant to counterbalance uneven matches and speed players apart. Unfortunately, that’s been circumvented by two things; The matchmaking is creating matches so extreme that the separation never happens and people are subverting the system by re rolling to new accounts.

Again, proof. And really, how many people are going around buying $50 accounts to redo the very fun and thrilling leagues? And if you’re being stomped by a bunch of F2P core accounts with unviable builds, then that’s just sad.

unviable builds?…. only if they are the same skill level but that is not the case. last week playing whith my friends (rubi, saphire) got stompet by a premade team of 4 amber whith core builds and a rubi whith HoT build, and the ruby one are whith diference the worse player of team . this only means one thing legendari or pro level players in alternate F2P acounts carriing to legendary a less skilled friend and stomping trough lower divs whith their superior skill

Thanks to this system ruby has the biggest collection of idiots in any tier outside hotjoin.

It’s just a contest to see who can throw their lead more effectively by chasing the thief off point, starting with a lord rush, trying to cap far when holding mid and home securely…etc

In fact there’s probably more people who don’t understand the idea of stand on the circle in ruby than in preschool.

I love my F2P acct running a Core thief, the only time I have found a good fight was against another f2p alt acct, but otherwise the safe pips allowed players that should never be above emerald get there