Guild Wars 2

it has been more than 2 years, why still no personal score for bunkers who actively contest neutral or captured objectives?

for example:

contesting a neutral point while your team holds:
1 capture point (earn 1 personal score every 2 seconds)
2 capture points (earn 2 personal score every 2 seconds)

contesting a captured point while your team holds:
1 capture point (earn 1 personal score every 2 seconds)
2 capture points (earn 2 personal score every 2 seconds)
3 capture points (earn 3 personal score every 2 seconds)

this way, bunkers will earn some personal score if they are actively defending the capture points. of course, if no one goes and attacks them, then they will not earn personal score as the captured point are not contested.

discuss?

Why?

Because unlike 2 years ago, personal score means even less now. If that was possible..

A better discussion would be “when can we stop seeing personal PvP brownie points on the scoreboard, and start seeing information that’s more helpful to gaining actual insight to who’s accomplishing what.”

Chaith.8256:

Why?

Because unlike 2 years ago, personal score means even less now. If that was possible..

A better discussion would be “when can we stop seeing personal PvP brownie points on the scoreboard, and start seeing information that’s more helpful to gaining actual insight to who’s accomplishing what.”

Can’t agree more.

@ Chaith.8256 & Katran.9186
why? well because they have not removed the public scoreboard yet.

at the moment, the public scoreboard (B) only shows a general personal score of the players.

since the players personal score is still being shown, i figured that bunkers ought to get their participation recognized as well.

Score is garbage in generally, just remove it.

Harbinger.8637:

Score is garbage in generally, just remove it.

well i did ask for its removal before but no one seems to want that either.

and unfortunately, it seems like personal score is still used by the system to determine a player’s participation in the match.

Who determines that? Are you worried about what another player thinks of you because of your score?

If your bunking and get a low score and your teammates don’t understand why they are the less experienced most likely. Now if you are sitting at home point all day and no one ever even sniffs your home yet you stay there.. (certainly not accusing you of that but its a common example) then your team is right to yell.

Why do you care about what some other player thinks about you because of your score..? If they rage at you tell them to kick rocks or whatever.

Personal score is useless besides giving you credit for the match. Being the highest on the score board doesn’t mean you were the best player in the match………..why waste Anets time developing something that is useless for you own ego; instead of using their time on something that would actually help the game.

Can’t tell you how many times In pugs I have seen a player talking trash because they are the highest on the scroeboard. All they were doing is running around tagging kills and standing on points that are being free capped by someone else. Was the highest on scoreboard, was the most useless player in the match.

The points don’t always mean anything. Besides, if you did this, you would give free reign for pugs ‘bunkers’ to just sit on home point and go no where else the whole match; because they won’t need to for a point ego boost. This would cause even more frustration. Nothing more useless than a bunker who never leaves home point. I love seeing the enemy do that. It’s GG cuz u just 5v4 them on the other 2 points all match…BUT HE HAS HOME!

Edit: I realize I read it wrong and you said they would not get points for siting on an uncontested point. Oh well. My point still valid lol.

Personal score , in my opinion is meaningless when you win. I can cap a point and stay there making low points for me but good points for my team. Instead it can have some form of meaning when you lose . For example when you lose and see that you have 2 players on the losing team with some points and other 3 near to 0 ( it happens to me sometimes to see this ) it is a proof that they could not kill anyone and a sign of l2p issue . (it is only an example )

Chaith.8256:

information that’s more helpful to gaining actual insight to who’s accomplishing what.

This.

But at the same time it is true that right now bunkers or point holders don’t get the recognition that roamers are used too. At the same time bunker doesn’t mean stand in point all game lol rotations is key even for bunkers.

It’s common in most games that Support players get shafted by any sort of ranking. It’s rare when support-based players can actually top point charts (with Team Fortress being a notable exception). Since experienced players don’t care about score, it’s something I learned to live since I was healing in WoW.

Consider that in Ranked you can see personal score information after each match, and it is the only feedback players get on how they and all players performed, besides the total team score. So, we’re in this bizarro world of playing so-called ranked matches, but in game have no record of anyone’s rank, including or own, nor how a match affects our rank, nor how many points our personal rank will change based on the final match score (thus, no idea what exactly we are playing for beyond win/loss).

So, we are giving lots of superfluous, and rather misleading, information, yet none of the essential information. Ranked is in desperate need of transparency. At the start of a match players need to be able to see every other player’s rank/rating so they can see how teams are balanced; and they need to see how different score differentials will move their rank/rating.

@ NeXeD.3042
determines what?
no, i’m not worried about the lower score issue.

@ GhOst.4019
hmmm you are correct, it will consume their time if they want to work on this.
perhaps a complete overhaul of the score board is required.
i will start a new topic for that.

and if implemented wrongly, may introduce more problems as mentioned by you.

@ PierPiero.9142
aye, true, higher points tend to mean that player killed more, or neutralized or captured more capture points, killed more forest animals etc.

@ Zoso.8279
ya, bunker needs to be actively contesting a point (defending own captured point, or preventing the other team from capturing a neutral point) so rotations are still important for bunkers.

@ Ynna.8769
hmmm we need a new score board, the current one is long out dated.

@ i think letting players see each others ranks and rating before a match is not a good idea at all. very bad. the match will be over before it even started.

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thanks everyone for the feedback!
i believe this topic has run its course, i will proceed to start a new topic regarding the overhaul of the scoreboard.

thanks again everyone!

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

it has been more than 2 years, why still no personal score for bunkers who actively contest neutral or captured objectives?

for example:

contesting a neutral point while your team holds:
1 capture point (earn 1 personal score every 2 seconds)
2 capture points (earn 2 personal score every 2 seconds)

contesting a captured point while your team holds:
1 capture point (earn 1 personal score every 2 seconds)
2 capture points (earn 2 personal score every 2 seconds)
3 capture points (earn 3 personal score every 2 seconds)

this way, bunkers will earn some personal score if they are actively defending the capture points. of course, if no one goes and attacks them, then they will not earn personal score as the captured point are not contested.

discuss?

Noone cares bout personal score…