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Posted by: RaynStargaze.6510

RaynStargaze.6510

So anyone figured out how exactly the priority for conditions cleansed is?

I have mostly single condition cleanses with some minor casttime between each but still find myself stuck in an immobilize because my 3 cleanses just have to remove that 1 stack vulnerability and those 3 stacks bleed and that 1 stack vulnerability again.

Or having 2-3 stacks bleed which almost ran out + a 7 second poison and i really need that poison off for a heal but end up having to wait till the bleeds ran out

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Posted by: TheMightyAltroll.3485

TheMightyAltroll.3485

I wish people had fewer condition cleanses. Poor prioritizing is probably the only reason why a condition Necro can get any kills at all.

Contact me ingame for Necro, Ranger, Mesmer, and Thief advice.

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Posted by: Ezrael.6859

Ezrael.6859

I wish people had less range. People standing still next to my Greatsword is the only reason why a Guardian can get any kills at all.

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Posted by: zone.1073

zone.1073

FIFO. First in, first out.

If you look at your row of conditions, the right-most condition is the oldest, so that one gets cleansed first.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

FIFO. First in, first out.

If you look at your row of conditions, the right-most condition is the oldest, so that one gets cleansed first.

FILO. First in, last out.
LIFO. Last in, first out.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Condition

For generic condition removal, the most recently applied condition or conditions will be removed first. The condition is removed independent of the intensity, so 3 stacks and 25 stacks of bleeding are equivalent when considering condition removal.

for example my mesmer can drop 8 stacks of confusion on someone and then attempt to cover up the confusion with other conditions such as bleeding, burning, vulnerability etc.

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

NevirSayDie.6235

FIFO. First in, first out.

If you look at your row of conditions, the right-most condition is the oldest, so that one gets cleansed first.

FILO. First in, last out.
LIFO. Last in, first out.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Condition

For generic condition removal, the most recently applied condition or conditions will be removed first. The condition is removed independent of the intensity, so 3 stacks and 25 stacks of bleeding are equivalent when considering condition removal.

for example my mesmer can drop 8 stacks of confusion on someone and then attempt to cover up the confusion with other conditions such as bleeding, burning, vulnerability etc.

^ Quoted for accuracy. It’s amazing how much misinformation is still floating around regarding condition removal.

The present system is good because it allows for skill on both ends (a condition build must think ahead and be able to “cover” his conditions, and his opponent has to watch so he knows which condition he’s getting rid of).

In addition, the current system makes it so that large bleed stacks are almost always cleared first, since they are usually constantly being refreshed.

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Posted by: Kaon.7192

Kaon.7192

Hmm so do you mean that reapplying a condition will move it up to the top of the removal queue even if the previous application has not yet expired?

Interesting. I didn’t know this before.

Does the interface get updated to reflect the new ordering, by the way? In other words, is it safe to always assume that the rightmost condition on your bar will always be removed first?

Also, I’m assuming boon removal will work in a similar fashion?

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Posted by: garethh.3518

garethh.3518

Cleansing should have been more condition specific.
For sure a much bigger divide between bleed/burn/imob and vulnerability/weakness/cripple/poison/chill.
[if they made chill movement impairing worse and poison not last so long from certain attacks or weaker but stack in intensity/healing mitigation]

That’d give melee more life as their cripples aren’t eaten up like nothing. That’d make vulnerability stacking better in PvP since it won’t disapear at the swap of an attunement, that’d make weakness and chill decently reliable conditions for drawn out fights.

Cleansing should have been mainly built into traitline minor traits or innate to classes.
Forcing every spec to sacrifice for cleansing and means to deal with CC as a necessity is just limiting in this system GW2 threw our way. Major traits and utilities should be an extra shot at some cleansing, not the barebone necessary.

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Posted by: Brigg.6189

Brigg.6189

^yeah. That’s one of the things that makes warrior condi builds weak, it’s constant bleed application with little else to cover them, which almost guarantees it’ll be removed first