Guild Wars 2

topic says it all annoying pets attacking from 5k range, pet owner no where to be found yet oet still attacking. needs a range limit.

Equally fun in Spvp i see 2 ranger pets on me too long to kill them mini tanks, put s leash on those kittenes

lol you wanna nerf the most underpowered and least represented class in the game?

good luck there.

Think engineers hold that title. Since the last patch there have been more rangers since ever. He’s right there needs to be a range limit on these pets

Rekuja.6318:

lol you wanna nerf the most underpowered and least represented class in the game?

good luck there.

That doesn’t mean that his claim is illegitimate.

I agree, we must have a ranged limit for pets, but a large one, something like ~2000 range and have visual contact with the ranger.

No who cares kill the pet. It puts it on a minute cooldown for us lol are you serious?

Why? This is our shared damage, one of our class benefits is to be able to split our damage. Pets are squishy, just kill it. It cripples us more than you think.

I think there is a range on the pet but it’s enormous like mesmer portal range. Maybe it needs to get toned down a little idk I havnt seen this being gamebreaking in anyway just irritable… like it should be i think.

However, as a ranger I do feel like im being carried by my pet in terms of damage. I expect the pet to act as minor passive damage because that’s what I imagine of each class with a dedicated pet to rely on. But right now my pet’s auto attacks hit harder than mine on a moving target lol…

I hope sometime in the future, some of that power will transfer to the ranger.

Pro tip: kill the pet.

Moka.9641:

Rekuja.6318:

lol you wanna nerf the most underpowered and least represented class in the game?

good luck there.

That doesn’t mean that his claim is illegitimate.

I agree, we must have a ranged limit for pets, but a large one, something like ~2000 range and have visual contact with the ranger.

Pets already have a range limit, so I find it odd that you’re asking for this. The range if I remember correctly is currently 3000.

My guess is you’re referring to some hot join game where some smart kitten Ranger sat on the boat out of sight or behind a tree or something and took all beast skills/traits/power-ups and then lol’d as he sicked his pet on you. Highly HIGHLY amusing.

1 This is unlikely to ever be an issue in a serious tourney game
2 Lol at you for not just killing the pets when there’s obviously nobody else around that’s a greater threat (hint: pets that do massive damage tend to be short on health)

PS how about you let them fix the ranger class a bit before you start asking to punish them further for their class choice.

I play a Ranger as a main, and I wouldn’t have a problem with this. However, most pets used for pvp are pretty squishy and die rather quickly – even full BM mine get whacked pretty fast (toughness signet would help). Kill the dang pet. I don’t let my pet run off with a target unless they are low on health and/or not very mobile. Otherwise, I just hit 3 to bring him back or switch out to start on a new target.

Tried killing them when 5 or more are on you despite their owner being miles away? Happens frequently in sPVP’s cousin WvW. Imagine William Wallace charging the English, only replace his troops with animals and that’s usually what wvw first contact looks like.

first fix thieves and mesmers – burst and stealth, THEN you can come talk about nerfing ranger pets.

If you’re really that annoyed by a PET?! Then just kill the pet, the ranger loses 30% of its damage for 1 minute…..

Nerf pet range, increase stun duration by 1 second on concussion shot

Torres.2890:

If you’re really that annoyed by a PET?! Then just kill the pet, the ranger loses 30% of its damage for 1 minute…..

no all u have to do is swap to the other pet , in the time it would take to kill both pets the ranger can auto atk u to death i do it all the time on my ranger the auto atk is stupid powerful u dont even need to use any other skill

pet range is non existant

swap to the other pet. If someone is focusing on the pets even swapping wont do a kitten thing for you.

if you REAALLLLYYY need a range on them, 5k range sounds pretty good. they are pretty low damage and rarely have a good tank on them unless they are devourer. and at that point if one kills you i will have to laugh at you because their attacks are already easy to avoid. same as well, all pets due to how they run straight paths and stop once they get at the edge of their attack range. all you need to do is run in a wide circle and the pet wont hit you, even with sic em(unless you are chilled)

StoneWolf.7930:

swap to the other pet. If someone is focusing on the pets even swapping wont do a kitten thing for you.

if you REAALLLLYYY need a range on them, 5k range sounds pretty good. they are pretty low damage and rarely have a good tank on them unless they are devourer. and at that point if one kills you i will have to laugh at you because their attacks are already easy to avoid. same as well, all pets due to how they run straight paths and stop once they get at the edge of their attack range. all you need to do is run in a wide circle and the pet wont hit you, even with sic em(unless you are chilled)

LOW dmg? not sure i would call 2k crits low while getting bit every 2sec for 500 dmg. i love my ranged pets keeping people poisoned,slow,rooted while doing 500-2k dmg while i #1 them to death with my machine gun/short bow

Ranger pets already have a decent enough range limit. Also, they’re not hard to kill at all…
Only a few have high hp and their dps is not that great.

you then ran across dumb opponents. i would kill you if you used any ranged pet. they would never hit the projectiles are way to slow. 2kcrit on ranged pets also means you spent some points in skirmishing. your survivability is low and im 99%sure your opponent again is an idiot

Torres.2890:

If you’re really that annoyed by a PET?! Then just kill the pet, the ranger loses 30% of its damage for 1 minute…..

more like 50%

urinfamousr.7631:

StoneWolf.7930:

swap to the other pet. If someone is focusing on the pets even swapping wont do a kitten thing for you.

if you REAALLLLYYY need a range on them, 5k range sounds pretty good. they are pretty low damage and rarely have a good tank on them unless they are devourer. and at that point if one kills you i will have to laugh at you because their attacks are already easy to avoid. same as well, all pets due to how they run straight paths and stop once they get at the edge of their attack range. all you need to do is run in a wide circle and the pet wont hit you, even with sic em(unless you are chilled)

LOW dmg? not sure i would call 2k crits low while getting bit every 2sec for 500 dmg. i love my ranged pets keeping people poisoned,slow,rooted while doing 500-2k dmg while i #1 them to death with my machine gun/short bow

lol that “machine gun/shortbow” is weak if they are not full power mode., and if so, the ranger is very squishy. not to mention if you can stealth, evade, dodge, its not all that powerful. if your running a condtion build or survival, the shortbow basically does as much dps as 5 stacks of bleed.

leash range is fine as it stands. if you stand on clocktower, you cannot always send your pet to an enemy on a far node if they are at the back of the node. this is a good example of the leash range on pets.

WvW, all rangers did was cry for the first 3 months. now their pets are doing well in WvW & other ppl are crying instead of dealing with it.

so much crying. not enough personal growth.

faeral.7120:

leash range is fine as it stands. if you stand on clocktower, you cannot always send your pet to an enemy on a far node if they are at the back of the node. this is a good example of the leash range on pets.

WvW, all rangers did was cry for the first 3 months. now their pets are doing well in WvW & other ppl are crying instead of dealing with it.

so much crying. not enough personal growth.

pets shouldnt be able to hit someone at another node while ur capping a different one, thats plain stupid that you think thats even ok

Convict.8526:

urinfamousr.7631:

StoneWolf.7930:

swap to the other pet. If someone is focusing on the pets even swapping wont do a kitten thing for you.

if you REAALLLLYYY need a range on them, 5k range sounds pretty good. they are pretty low damage and rarely have a good tank on them unless they are devourer. and at that point if one kills you i will have to laugh at you because their attacks are already easy to avoid. same as well, all pets due to how they run straight paths and stop once they get at the edge of their attack range. all you need to do is run in a wide circle and the pet wont hit you, even with sic em(unless you are chilled)

LOW dmg? not sure i would call 2k crits low while getting bit every 2sec for 500 dmg. i love my ranged pets keeping people poisoned,slow,rooted while doing 500-2k dmg while i #1 them to death with my machine gun/short bow

lol that “machine gun/shortbow” is weak if they are not full power mode., and if so, the ranger is very squishy. not to mention if you can stealth, evade, dodge, its not all that powerful. if your running a condtion build or survival, the shortbow basically does as much dps as 5 stacks of bleed.

why wouldnt u stack might when you have a machinegun/short bow? the auto atk is stupid fast and hits 500-1k + stacks a bld coupled with a freeze on crit and ur target will never reach u till their 2/3 hp i do it all the time. its crazy how much i can auto atk someone to death. only other auto atk that deals at much dmg is the thief short bow only it bounces to 3 other people. just stupid but fun…

It’s true it’s kinda frustrating to be chased around a map by a sort of homing missile pet that will follow you anywhere as long as there is a path for it…

You can kill the pet quite easily though, for sure.

That said, i have three main issues with pets (four actually, i hate fighting bots when i’m supposed to be in pvp as opposed to pve, hinthint mesmer clones & pets, but, well)

- Sometimes while you decide to get rid of them, they just reset like a regular mob, run back to their far away owner, and get all their life back, you just wasted some CD/initiative on them and you are still considered in combat… Mmh.

- Sometimes when standing on a ledge or shooting at them from a point they can’t reach, they will be considered as invincible. Happens a lot with necro minions.

- I saw it happen only once, but i was attacked by a ranger’s pet while he was considered out of combat and getting his life back. I dunno if it’s just a one time glitch but if not, a ranger should be considered in combat if his pet is.

urinfamousr.7631:

pets shouldnt be able to hit someone at another node while ur capping a different one, thats plain stupid that you think thats even ok

it’s true, the ranger profession shouldn’t have any qualities that other professions don’t get as well. aside from it being something unique to ranger, you have not presented any reasonable argument as to why the leash range should be shortened.

pets can hit a target at another node. it is a profession strength. it is not overpowered. without the ranger there to support the pet, its damage is easily neutralized or killed outright. the pet needs snared targets to secure its damage. if i’m defending another point, i can’t snare my pet’s target—& i will also be doing negligible damage on my point if a fight is happening there.

think of the pet leash range as a profession equivalency to thief mobility or mesmer portal. it means that a BM ranger can still assist a team fight in a limited capacity while being responsible for bunkering a node. this is a GOOD THING. it means there are more viable options for team comps than if this mechanic did not exist, because it is extremely difficult to run anything but mesmer on home point.

pets are also not bots, they require manual control to get the most out of them. i consider the pet as a detachable 3rd arm of my ranger. the only things which are controlled by AI is 1) pathing & 2) pet executing passives. but the ranger decides if & when the pet does anything in particular. if you are dying to a “petbot”, you just need to start paying attention to pets, that’s all. because all that pet is going to do is mindlessly chase you in a straight line & try to land passive attacks unless the ranger is controlling it well ( but that usually requires being in the same place as pet ).

in WvW, pets should be AoE’d down. if you have 5 pets chasing you solo, gg, you just got 5v1’d. welcome to pvp.

apologies if my thoughts seem blunt, but those are my thoughts on leash; peace gl hf.

Raijinn.9065:

Think engineers hold that title. Since the last patch there have been more rangers since ever. He’s right there needs to be a range limit on these pets

All of my pets go down extremely fast – I don’t know where you people get that “pets” are a problem in any way or any scenario.

OGDeadHead.8326:

first fix thieves and mesmers – burst and stealth, THEN you can come talk about nerfing ranger pets.

totally agree, perma evade death blossom thieves, insta kill burst thieves, mesmers with 20 stacks of might blowing people up, and people are asking for a nerf to one of the 3 worst classes?! (engi necro ranger)

how about we replace all the ranger pets with squirrels, the necro spells with bubbles and the engineer kits with lego, will the OP be happy then?

“Free kill classes” (said on multiple forums) Ranger’s, Engineers.

Engineers need the most love, rangers just got a little better due to recent patch – You just want your easy kills back.

You rage at rangers when OP thieves and mesmers run amuck? LOL.