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Posted by: dejay.2598

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Let me draw out a situation for you to understand. You say, one skill of yours equivalent to 20% ok, now it would be fair if we miss one skill we wasted 5% of our skill.

1vs1 Eles using Dagger and Warrior using Snife GS.

First, War spot Eles. He use his Auto attack to get 1 hit in. Eles realize he getting hit, and he spot War near. Eles uses RtL to approach him. (5%) while War (0%). War see RtL coming and he is good, he dodge backward (0% skill wasted), Eles miss (5% wasted and put on 40s CD). Since War is so far away, Eles can not use Lightning Lash to attack. So Eles change to Fire (RtL wasted and on 40s CD, 5%, and put Air Attunement on 10s CD). Meanwhile War still get some free shot at Eles ( 0% wasted). Eles use Burning Foot to approach again (10% wasted, RtL and Burning Foot). War is good that he predict the skill coming, he dodge backward (0% wasted and 2 dodge being used). Eles still can not hit the War due to the range of Claw was too short. More Free shot for War. So far Eles has used 10% of his total skill (RtL and Burning Foot), put Air on 10s CD while dealing no kitteno War. War used 0% of his skill in total and 2 dodge and some free hit on Eles.

Then Eles switch to Earth (put Fire on 10s CD and Air right now say, 5s CD still), using Magnetic Grasp with the pray that please hit him (15% skill wasted and still no dam). War getting hit and being immobolize (0% skill Wasted, while waiting for endurance to refill). Eles approach with Magnetic Grasp and hit War with dams. (15% of total skill being used, Fire and Air put on 10s CD and the result is tinny bit Dam from Magenic Grasp). Eles proceed with Ring of Earth and War get hit and apply Bleeding, then Earth Quake to KD War and Cast CE like normal (in total of 30% skill). War oh no, I am being KD, and his endurance has been refill for at least another dodge. He dodge the CE at the very last second (2.5s when Eles start to cast) cause CE to miss. Eles best burst skill has been missed just like that.

OK War decided to still keep distance with Eles because he know Eles has no more Mobility skill (RtL is on 40s CD, Eles can not switch to Fire due to Fire still in CD), so he start with Cripple Shot. Eles being cripped and start slowing down. Now Eles has two choice, either use Cantrip to clear condition or Tune to Water to clear condition. Eles decide to go to Water (Put Earth on CD while Air is off CD). Then Eles go to Air but because RtL is still on CD and with Switfness from Arcane, he is barely able to catch up to War and War decide to change to GS and use Rush and Whirlwind Blade to keep a distance. Then he switch back to Snifle and keep getting free shot at Eles, not to mention all other skill with Snifle and Aimshot. Eles approach too close, ok here go Snifle 5 to knock Eles back and hey Cripple him, and keep getting free shot hit.

In short, that is what happened. Please tell me if anything in this sencario that I overlooking and that you can not pull off in real fight?So how many skill Eles has to be wasted to be able to hit War just once and not even stratching his armor a bit? (15%) + Free shot from War compare to your 20% skill wasted, I would take over 20% skill wasted + Free shot hit anytime.

Conjure GS, I believe that is what you are talking about. It take 2s to Cast and can not cast while Moving. The only reason Eles pull of the GS like you said is to run away which means Eles already out of option and that is the last resort. But being stay still while low health, any class can finish Eles in just 2s and there you go, Eles never get a chance to get away.

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

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Posted by: dejay.2598

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wat the wat
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sy dt 2 me fce n nt onion

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

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wat the wat
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sy dt 2 me fce n nt onion

Sounds like you’re not playing Ele right.

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Posted by: Chaosky.5276

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Except that d/d eles have a lot of access to Swiftness, can dodge about twice as often, have a 900 range teleport, can cripple in Earth and chill in Water, you’re overestimating the range of dodge rolls, and the warrior can’t sustain their health like the ele can.

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Posted by: dejay.2598

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wat the wat
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sy dt 2 me fce n nt onion

Sounds like you’re not playing Ele right.

How about you get wrecked come 1V1 me pick any class see what happens M8 except warrior M8

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Posted by: Chaosky.5276

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what in the name of omnomberries is this thread

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Posted by: Phaeton.9582

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I’ll come back to this post when I’m stoned


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Posted by: Defektive.7283

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I’ll come back to this post when I’m stoned

Or is it that we’re all stoned now and that makes perfect sense to a sober person..

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Posted by: Phaeton.9582

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I’ll come back to this post when I’m stoned

Or is it that we’re all stoned now and that makes perfect sense to a sober person..

maybe we’re, like, not even supposed to fully understand what it means. Like an impression or something.


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Posted by: dejay.2598

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I’ll come back to this post when I’m stoned

Or is it that we’re all stoned now and that makes perfect sense to a sober person..

While I agree with you that Eles can dodge Cripple Shot and Riffle But. Compare to Burning Speed and RtL animation, Cripple Shot is harder to predict, Riffle But is dodge able though. For CE, even if he have no dodge. How about a Blind Shot? Blind also cause CE to miss or Endure pain which will prevent direct dam from him and Shake it Off to get off the Bleed condition

Ring of Earth casting after he eat Magnetic Grasp though. If he want to gain range advantage, why not use Shake It off or Healing that remove 2 conditions bf using Rush and Whirlwind Blade. If I put ultities into account, things will become much more complicated.

If they use the Lightflash to approach, sure they still have RtL there. On the downside though, he can not use CE with Lightning flash combo. War can either save the dodge to dodge CE or simply get out of CE Circle because he know Lightning Flash has been used.

Yeah I know he did not mention about the Dodge, I still get prepare for a worst sceneario. But guess I will wait for one more day to make any more Comment.

All the Conjure Weapon, I am talking about Mobility here, only GS give you. So I don’t mention any other Conjure weapon.

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

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How about chill? I mean that in every sense of the word.

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Posted by: google.3709

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I wanna shake that warrior’s hand

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Posted by: Wranglerist.5489

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what in the name of omnomberries is this thread

I rofled so hard

#ELEtism

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Posted by: Assyrian.4827

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And you can walk + dodge to close distance .

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Posted by: Interpret Interrupt.3824

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I stopped when he said warrior dodges, so ele is out of range but war is getting in free shots. I am pretty sure ele range further than GS melee range.

Plus when do you ever ever see a rifle warrior lol

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Posted by: Gaidax.7835

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Yeah, I totally see warriors farming Eles in PvP all day long…

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Posted by: Erwin.5603

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Okay guys, I read the whole thing just for you, I might be crazy, but I am doing this for a greater good.
I think the tldr is:
Rifle Warrior OP and D/D Ele UP because of kiting mechanic ???

Answer: L2P meele specs, or play S/D Ele

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Posted by: Avead.5760

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Switch to earth use 3 and then 2 to block his projectiles.Activate 3 again switch to water and activate 4 then go in air.See no rtl ever used and you have that warrior locked for life
But sure if general opinion is that d/d is too kiteable (heard it from top players too) then plss you are allowed to buff it!!!I wont stop you :P

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Posted by: Stealth.9324

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Does Aura Frost works if a range attack strike you? I notices there is no frost condition on them when they attack at range. But I may be wrong or it been bug for me.

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Posted by: Avead.5760

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Does Aura Frost works if a range attack strike you? I notices there is no frost condition on them when they attack at range. But I may be wrong or it been bug for me.

It works with all attacks and the range limit is pretty generous

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Posted by: Stealth.9324

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Hm.. Either I miss it or it bug out. Probably miss it, thanks for the confirm.

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Posted by: OGDeadHead.8326

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Best. Thread. Ever.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

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Best. Thread. Ever.

+1000

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Posted by: Stealth.9324

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Let the past sleep for eternity. Let Unrest Soul remain to their sleeping place. There, we can finish this already

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

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Let the past sleep for eternity. Let Unrest Soul remain to their sleeping place. There, we can finish this already

Your post was like a piece of modern art. Kinda abstract, unreal and a bit misterious, but interesting and new/fresh.

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Posted by: Stealth.9324

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Let the past sleep for eternity. Let Unrest Soul remain to their sleeping place. There, we can finish this already

Your post was like a piece of modern art. Kinda abstract, unreal and a bit misterious, but interesting and new/fresh.

Well it is nice of you. Thank you. :P. I will take it as a compliment.

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

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I read this topic before like months ago … Déja vu

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Posted by: Stealth.9324

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I am even more surprised than you that my post is actually being revived. Dam, I should Copyright it bf >-<. Not matter much anyway And thanks for reading. Hope you have a good laugh

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

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It was your topic? I thought I read it before but can’t remember where :p

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Posted by: Stealth.9324

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It was your topic? I thought I read it before but can’t remember where :p

It was mine. Yup….It was like 2 months ago, when I am raged for the patch that has RtL nerf in it. I was so rage, upset that until I get crazy and do funny thing LOL

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Posted by: Brinson.7289

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I smell a new FoTM build coming soon to a warrior near you! [Major buffs coming in 2014]
Pretty sure this guy is from the future.

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Posted by: ahuba.6430

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It was your topic? I thought I read it before but can’t remember where :p

It was mine. Yup….It was like 2 months ago, when I am raged for the patch that has RtL nerf in it. I was so rage, upset that until I get crazy and do funny thing LOL

yeah except you were beeing super serious lol

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Posted by: Stealth.9324

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I was super serious at that time. I mean really. But you know what, when people getting serious while they are mad, they do funny thing. Agree??

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Posted by: Kugron.5128

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I approve of this thread. Real talk.