reaper scrapper daredevil dh
I think the god tier will only be reaper/scrapper/druid.
DH will be countered by an aurashare tempest in a team fight and die to the god tier easily. Daredevil is strong in good hands but still has its limitation.
If we have a team like this: reaper/scrapper/druid/herald/tempest. It will be pretty much super sustain all over again.
daredevil and DH are bad…. Sooo many hardcounters to choose from; learn to play one.
I mean, there is also druid, gunflame warrior and wildfire warrior have both seen some good use, and they are competitive in the right hands. Condi-mes is powerful, the only class that I haven’t seen used much is elementalist, but this seems to be a problem where the class is perceived as bad instead of actually being bad… AFAIK the only nerf they took was to condi invuln…
Also, Guardian hard counters DD, necro soft counters DH, engineer is a good all-rounder, druid out-sustains reaper in the right hands, etc. Balance is in a really good place IMO
@OP:
Not sure what you are talking about. I’m seeing pretty much every class. In fact, it is significantly better than the previous meta.
Before all we saw were bunker mesmer and herald. That was boring.
That’s all I see in pvp and it’s just tiring and so boring. Cheap ridicolous high hp, perma cc, self sustain, condi spam, permaevade.
You really made pvp boring with this update, and noone seems to bother.
So you didn’t see a druid at all? None of those Ele’s running about? Certainly none of those revenants… nope definitely not. Your kidding right?
That’s all I see in pvp and it’s just tiring and so boring. Cheap ridicolous high hp, perma cc, self sustain, condi spam, permaevade.
You really made pvp boring with this update, and noone seems to bother.So you didn’t see a druid at all? None of those Ele’s running about? Certainly none of those revenants… nope definitely not. Your kidding right?
How could he, he plays Druid/Ranger. :P
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
If you know how to play, the Reaper is hardly countered by daredevil, dragonhunter (if know how to face a reaper), the berserker (but need to know how to play) and is kittenered by any druids that know how to sustain more than they’re enemy.
Also the new Tempest build can counter a necro, with the same insane healing ability and a insane passive to remove conditions (1 condi every sec with condi remove from every regen -aura give regen- and trooper rune make him barely immune to conditions). Need just a little more time than before to kill the reaper, nothing more.
Ddirect damage Heralds also can burst down a reaper fast if theknow ow to play.
All the other classes can play more or less at the same level with a good build and a good player that use them.
Actually the reaper have 3 hard counters, 3 soft-counters and 3 that can fight and “easykill”.
It look balanced to me.
dh is the worst elitè spec in spvp with the warrior… meditrapper is good only vs new ppl that don’t know anything about dh , meditrapper vs medium/high skill players is totally crap
ye..power revenant it s not a problem..godmode damage godmode defensive godmode mobility.
That’s all I see in pvp and it’s just tiring and so boring. Cheap ridicolous high hp, perma cc, self sustain, condi spam, permaevade.
You really made pvp boring with this update, and noone seems to bother.
i think both dh and daredevil are in the lowest hp, not highest pool
That’s all I see in pvp and it’s just tiring and so boring. Cheap ridicolous high hp, perma cc, self sustain, condi spam, permaevade.
You really made pvp boring with this update, and noone seems to bother.
Really? A guy in another Thread seems to think all HE sees is Thieves… must be something in the water.
I do not PvP but just reading these threads and others like it confirms my belief that the playerbase as a whole is not a reliable source as to which professions are OP and not.
For every objective post there seems to be 10 based on hyperbole and posted 37 seconds after a given person lost a battle to another class and is convinced it had nothing to do with his or her own skill.
A (plug in class here) can not be “trash tier” and “op” at the same time so I wonder how on earth ANET can glean any real valid data from the forums.
Anyone stating reaper is not completely imbalanced hasn’t played much or even worse plays the build and wants to defend it. The damage output versus tankiness IS ridicolous. I never said it can’t be countered. Other builds can be countered 10 other ways. Ur arguments are very poor.
Anyone stating reaper is not completely imbalanced hasn’t played much or even worse plays the build and wants to defend it. The damage output versus tankiness IS ridicolous. I never said it can’t be countered. Other builds can be countered 10 other ways. Ur arguments are very poor.
Or, people like you haven’t played the build and learned what it doesn’t handle well.
Reapers are strong, no doubt. But they do have plenty of counterplay to them. That doesn’t mean they aren’t too strong, but it is definitely by a small margin if they are. A very small margin, since 6/9 classes either have the advantage or an even matchup against them. Unless you are trying to run a condition build yourself, in which case that’s been a bad idea since day 1 of beta.
Anyone stating reaper is not completely imbalanced hasn’t played much or even worse plays the build and wants to defend it. The damage output versus tankiness IS ridicolous. I never said it can’t be countered. Other builds can be countered 10 other ways. Ur arguments are very poor.
Or, people like you haven’t played the build and learned what it doesn’t handle well.
Reapers are strong, no doubt. But they do have plenty of counterplay to them. That doesn’t mean they aren’t too strong, but it is definitely by a small margin if they are. A very small margin, since 6/9 classes either have the advantage or an even matchup against them. Unless you are trying to run a condition build yourself, in which case that’s been a bad idea since day 1 of beta.
There is always counterplay….but only when you’re the one that must be countered, despite the claims of multiple counters…you still see double/triple necro for match( not force me to post every single screenshot) almost for team.
And ofc the ones who see the counterplay are always the reaper themselves..while the rest need to l2p
Boring to see how low skilled people or people that got killed by a reaper whine everyday about reaper. There are good counters and skilled people can kite you and slowly kill you because of better mobility,good healing, self defense skills. Lets talk about teamfights everyone focus reaper, reaper dies no matter what he tries to do. Everyone focus XY class XY class able to run away and survive zerg then go back to teamfight after some sec with full health. I also killed a lot of reaper with base hammer/gs warrior a lot of reaper tried to run away like chicken. When i got bored reading all the whine on forums. Reaper is still not in top 3 for me as it really need good babysitters to be strong or maybe even viable in teamfights other than 1v1 or 2v2 etc situations.
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I mean, there is also druid, gunflame warrior and wildfire warrior have both seen some good use, and they are competitive in the right hands. Condi-mes is powerful, the only class that I haven’t seen used much is elementalist, but this seems to be a problem where the class is perceived as bad instead of actually being bad… AFAIK the only nerf they took was to condi invuln…
Also, Guardian hard counters DD, necro soft counters DH, engineer is a good all-rounder, druid out-sustains reaper in the right hands, etc. Balance is in a really good place IMO
Yeah, balance is good if we only consider 3 classes: scrapper/druid/reaper.
Anyone stating reaper is not completely imbalanced hasn’t played much or even worse plays the build and wants to defend it. The damage output versus tankiness IS ridicolous. I never said it can’t be countered. Other builds can be countered 10 other ways. Ur arguments are very poor.
Or, people like you haven’t played the build and learned what it doesn’t handle well.
Reapers are strong, no doubt. But they do have plenty of counterplay to them. That doesn’t mean they aren’t too strong, but it is definitely by a small margin if they are. A very small margin, since 6/9 classes either have the advantage or an even matchup against them. Unless you are trying to run a condition build yourself, in which case that’s been a bad idea since day 1 of beta.
There is always counterplay….but only when you’re the one that must be countered, despite the claims of multiple counters…you still see double/triple necro for match( not force me to post every single screenshot) almost for team.
And ofc the ones who see the counterplay are always the reaper themselves..while the rest need to l2p
Right now, I’d say ample counterplay exists for everything but Scrappers and the bugged bristlebacks. Scrappers need sneak gyro to have a cast time and function gyro to have a stomp animation. There is probably more, but I think most people can agree on those two changes.