Guild Wars 2

This thread will probably get drowned out by the flood of Nerf/OP cries, but I still think it’s pretty important.

A friend and I convinced a second friend to try the game. So, we form a group and I try to start the queue. Doesn’t work. We finally figure it out that the new friend has to queue us. Admittedly, we’re at a disadvantage since our friend that just joined doesn’t know what he’s doing. We play Stronghold 4-5 times and don’t fair too well. That in itself is fine, but it’s getting discouraging and doesn’t bring much diversity when playing the same map over and over.

We figure our new friend is queuing incorrectly. So we tell him to make sure he has Conquest checked.

He claims, “Conquest Mode will be unlocked at Rank 10.”

Look, I know Rank 10 is easy to get to. That’s not my point. What’s the benefit of locking new Players into the new game mode? In the case of my friend, it gave him a pretty terrible experience. In a word, it was discouraging for him. To me, it felt perhaps like the developers are maybe a little too proud of the new game type in this sense.

I guess I’ll put it this way:

Does locking new players interested in sPvP to one map/game type for their first 10 PvP levels really have any benefit? The argument I can see is that Stronghold is new so it helps introduce people who don’t know what they’re doing – but we’ve already seen it in BWE. All I know is that if I were a new player, I sure as heck wouldn’t want to play the same map for 10 levels, no matter how fast they are compared to higher ranks.

Just play hotjoin until you have enough rank…

That’s a good point and honestly didn’t think about it. Though, for new Players, they might not even know it’s there.

So when get into a team of 5 tonight, and we have a new guildie who thinks he’ll try sPvP for the first time tonight with us.
We’re all dragons….
We go to queue up in UNRANKED and BAM. Our friend is singled out and told he can’t play with us.
So we all go and play with a team of 4, while he is left to play with random people who don’t know what they’re doing in a strange PVEisk style game mode. This, despite the fact that he has thousands of hours in WvW and knows how to fight people perfectly fine.
How do you think this made him feel? PRETTY kitten kitten. GG Anet.

Thats ridiculous why restrict conquest but not stronghold?

I was trying to guide some guildies around conquest mode, but was really disappointed to find out that they couldn’t because their ranks were too low. If you are wanting to promote sPVP to new players, why would you lock them out of the main game mode? Why would you restrict them to ONE map? I understand wanting to promote Stronghold too, but don’t do it at the expense of Conquest. Really upset.

This is just a poorly thought out change introduced on the back of removing ranked access and funneling everyone into unranked (kitten maps and all).

What do those 10 levels do exactly? You’re keeping potential newbies out of conquest, only when they get into conquest they’re going to be completely newbie to conquest. They’ll run around the map (like Stronghold), fight off point (like stronghold), and know nothing of conquest rotations (like Stronghold -_-u).

Just fire the manager behind this decision and get things back on track :D

Ross Biddle.2367:

This is just a poorly thought out change introduced on the back of removing ranked access and funneling everyone into unranked (kitten maps and all).

What do those 10 levels do exactly? You’re keeping potential newbies out of conquest, only when they get into conquest they’re going to be completely newbie to conquest. They’ll run around the map (like Stronghold), fight off point (like stronghold), and know nothing of conquest rotations (like Stronghold -_-u).

Just fire the manager behind this decision and get things back on track

exactly.

nowadays hotjoin is not good conquest tutorial either.

in nowadays hotjoin, new players learn:
team stacking
auto balance themselves into winning team
rage quit via spectator mode to force auto balance

when we have experienced players willing to take new players along, the stupid system denies us that.

So my guild was doing the PvP dailies last night and one of our team of 5 only had a rank of 8 so he could do stronghold daily but not the conquest daily. We had to do that with 4 in our guild team. This is simply ridiculous.

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

Just play hotjoin until you have enough rank…

Hot join is a 1000x worse experience for new players than stronghold, that is unless they enjoy 5v3 zerg fests.