Guild Wars 2

i used to really enjoy tPvP but with the arrival of paid tourneys it seems pugs are no longer welcome in tpvp with premades bashing them contently with 9/10 of my games played were me and a bunch of <rank 15s vs a premade team of 30-40s i assume this is to gain tickets for the paid tourny but i cant even get past round one now because of inbalences, im really fed up and i have given up, half the time i even play my moral is shattered when i see players next to me in the start gear because i know that the out come of us winning will be <50% to be generous

its not the low level players fault. its anets for not putting in some kind of ranking system for a competitive game they want to evolve into a esport

so for me PvP is dead, it had a good run of about 600 games but its over now im not playing the unorganized mess that is 8v8 as for me the “S” in spvp stands for structured and 8v8 is anything but structured, for me its just for casually gaining rank points when your not bothered about winning or losing

sPvP for anyone but the hardcore pvp is crippled in the hospital and only anet can save it, will they? i dont understand why Anet doesn’t use something like the GLICKO system, maybe they simply want to reward people that put the effort into organised premades to get a free ride there on out whilst the people who prefer to play alone just get stomped in the dirt, i dont know however i believe premades should fight other premades only and get additional rewards and a Pug torney should be available OR a ranking system as a group of lvl 30-40 Pugs may still be at a disadvantage vs a grp of 30-40 premades but at least they can retain hope as they all know what they are doing

P.S i know rank dosent = skill but i also believe rank 1-15s don’t have the same knowledge of the game in general as rank 30s who have played like 5x as much as them.

Wow there are a lot of players on this forum who don’t have teams. I wonder what would happen if they started talking to each other.

Mammoth.1975:

Wow there are a lot of players on this forum who don’t have teams. I wonder what would happen if they started talking to each other.

well, there still should be something for casual pvp’ers, aside joining the mess of 8v8 or the stomping of pug vs premade…

Mammoth.1975:

Wow there are a lot of players on this forum who don’t have teams. I wonder what would happen if they started talking to each other.

They wouldn’t get along due to personality conflicts I’m guessing.

I have 2 people I play with on VoiP consistantly because in searching for other members to form a team I have only found narcissistic raging kids determined to disrespect and insult every other person in the game which I have neither the time nor the patience to deal with for the sake of a game nor really any other facet of life. 3v3 arenas would be awesome, but that’s another matter.

I’m sure there’s plenty of chill adults out there playing, but I’d wager most of them are already in longstanding guilds or have decided to avoid the cesspool of kitten as well.

You’re having bad luck Braxxus. We haven’t got our kitten together for the last week or so, and even when we do the paid queue is frustrating out of peak times, so I’ve been pugging heaps. Met lots of cool people. Wish you luck anyway, good to hear you’re solving the problem yourself.

Mammoth.1975:

Wow there are a lot of players on this forum who don’t have teams. I wonder what would happen if they started talking to each other.

If you don’t have a consistent schedule you don’t really get the option of doing the team thing. Simply the way things work.

A team requires 5 players with consistent playtimes that can depend on each other being around. So perhaps a couple alternates.

Mammoth.1975:

Wow there are a lot of players on this forum who don’t have teams. I wonder what would happen if they started talking to each other.

even if i had a team i want too be able to play alone sometime without getting stomped on and theres no way a team outside of a guild would work on a regular basis due too time problems

@Mammoth, Or you invite some of these tools to your 3 man group to form 5 and then they quit after you lose once. Just because there are people looking to join groups, doesnt mean they belong in them.

Right, a solo player complaining about paid tournaments where A-net has even stated paid ones are basically for pre-mades… Pre-made per definition = Team made before joining que.

Now if you don’t have a solid team of pals or guildies than do the FREE tournaments… Yes, shocking I know that there’s a mode for casuals without solid teams… How shocking that is. Ooh, wait now I get it… You saw that shiny reward of gems n didn’t think further than “Oooh, shiny gems me want I bet there are no guild-premades.”

-.- So yeah you don’t want casual tournament… You want the free gems, else you’d be doing free-tournament.

Elshagan.6342:

Right, a solo player complaining about paid tournaments where A-net has even stated paid ones are basically for pre-mades… Pre-made per definition = Team made before joining que.

Now if you don’t have a solid team of pals or guildies than do the FREE tournaments… Yes, shocking I know that there’s a mode for casuals without solid teams… How shocking that is. Ooh, wait now I get it… You saw that shiny reward of gems n didn’t think further than “Oooh, shiny gems me want I bet there are no guild-premades.”

-.- So yeah you don’t want casual tournament… You want the free gems, else you’d be doing free-tournament.

lmfao, someone took a rage pill and forgot to read OP… He IS doing free’s.

lol no one ever said gamers had to score high in Reading & Comprehension to post on the forums

OP is correct though. Premades have flooded back into free tourneys with greater numbers in the last couple of days. Pugging free’s you’re likely to face guild groups in the first round, and on top of which you’re likely to have to do so with a bunch of guys who are just trying out free tourneys for the first time…

Mammoth.1975:

Wow there are a lot of players on this forum who don’t have teams. I wonder what would happen if they started talking to each other.

So, your solution is for everybody to have teams?

You would think ArenaNet would try to appeal to PuGs more considering there are far more players who PuG than those who run regular 5-man teams.

They appeal to casuals in PvE plenty, but not so much in PvP.

I already stated in another thread, but:

• Make premades only fight premades in Free and Paid.
• Premades currently farm Free because it is more rewarding to stomp PuGs than it is to actually face a challenge in Paid.
• Paid queues are slow because all the premades are unskillfully farming Free.

Weapon X.5163:

@Mammoth, Or you invite some of these tools to your 3 man group to form 5 and then they quit after you lose once. Just because there are people looking to join groups, doesnt mean they belong in them.

So we should make it easier for them to win?

Gilgamesh, your assertion that premades currently farm pugs in free instead of playing paid because they do not want to face competition is laughable. There have been several threads demonstrating how the cost structure of paid tournaments results in 4 teams every paid tournament needing to either invest 3-4hrs per person winning free tournaments or purchasing more tournament entry tickets. There are 20 people between those teams, a total of 60-80 man hours must be expended to replenish the tickets from a tournament that could last less than 10mins if they face a top team off the start.

It is not a sustainable model for providing competitive PvP unless the teams losing in the 1st/2nd round either farm free tournaments or buy tickets with gems. Sure there may be some teams running free tournaments when they could “afford” to play paid ones because they don’t want strong competition but I would bet that most teams you see in the free tournies are there to replenish their ticket supply.

Met some good guys in spvp last night, prob was they were all eles, and while I don’t care of the the team composition a 5 ele party seems a little silly lol. The people leaving as well is quite an upset, vsed a opposing team with 3 guys. I don’t think rank level means dittily squat in this game. Sure a rank 1 character will be out matched if he is new. If he has 2 accounts then well he could be rank 30 or 40 on his other account.

Also I have played the same amount of games as my friend and he is way higher rank then me because I do the objective (cap the point and defend = boring and no glory) and he just gets into the 1v3 fights and lasts till someone comes and kills everyone for him. At the end of the fight he will have almost double they glory I got.

It’s a simple fix, IMHO. Just make a bracket of tournaments that ONLY allows solo queuing. No premades allowed. No grouping before the match allowed.

Doesn’t seem like it would even be all that hard to implement.

GW1 Random Arena style