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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

since season 3 is ending soon, why not let us asks for buffs in the upcoming season 4 ? !

well, let’s only buff useless non-meta core traits and skills though.

i’ll start off with some warrior and necromancer traits since i played these 2 professions more often than others.

as for the buffing details of each trait i will open new topics (will write some summary in this topic as well) for them since imma write long wall of text to assault everyone’s eyes in here. though another reason is mainly that there are far too many whine topics recently so imma hoping my buff topics will wash them away.

well, crossed out ones are probably fine.

season 4 useless non meta warrior traits buff wish list:
Strength
Death from Above (needs more use in pvp!)
Peak Performance (needs to be in line with other adrenal traits)
Restorative Strength (needs a rework!)

Body Blow (add in knock down, replace bleeding with x10 vulnerability)
Forceful Greatsword (this trait is fine)
Great Fortitude (too bland, needs something more!)

Axe Mastery (extra adrenal on axe hit, 250 power per axe, -20% axe skills recharge)
Berserker’s Power
Distracting Strikes (replace confusion with daze)

notes: i think strength trait line should be about raw power and not direct damage conditions so i think both body blow and distracting strikes should be reworked a bit.

Arms
Berserker’s Fury (10s fury on hit)
Opportunist (grants 10s fury on cripple, immobilize and chilled)
Signet Mastery (this trait is fine, other 2 traits are worthless though)

Blademaster (fine)
Deep Strike (needs a rework!)
Unsuspecting Foe (50% crit chance vs disabled foes)

Burst Precision (needs more!)
Dual Wielding (pulse 3s quickness per 3 second)
Furious (needs duration buff and more!)

Defense
Cull the Weak (5% dmg against weakened foes, apply weakness on hit)
Dogged March (fine)
Shield Master (fine)

Armored Attack (needs more!)
Defy Pain (fine)
Sundering Mace (mace skills apply x3 vulnerability per hit)

Cleansing Ire (fine)
Last Stand (fine)
Rousing Resilience (fine)

Tactics
Empowered (needs a rework!)
Leg Specialist (needs more!)
Quick Breathing (remove 1 extra condition for self, 2 condition for allies, -20% recharge)

Burning Arrows (all long bow skills apply burning, 2-5 apply more)
Empower Allies (needs rework!)
Shrug It Off (fine)

Phalanx Strength (10s might)
Powerful Synergy (needs rework!)
Vigorous Shouts (heal 1000 to self, 1000 to allies)

Discipline
Crack Shot (needs more!)
Vengeful Return (30s vengeance, 50% more health)
Warrior’s Sprint (fine)

Brawler’s Recovery (fine)
Destruction of the Empowered (needs rework!)
Inspiring Battle Standard (-20% banner recharge, +600 banner radius, regen)

Burst Mastery (burst skills do 7% 10% 15% more damage with higher adrenal)
Heightened Focus (fine?)
Merciless Hammer (-20% hammer skills, 20% hammer attack speed)

well, that’s it for now, will edit the traits summary and open up new topics for more discussion if there is a demand for it.

with this, perhaps warrior build diversity may be better in season 4.

everyone, contribute your ideas !

edit:
typo error, i meant season 4

original:
season 1 useless non meta warrior traits buff wish list:

edit 2:
revised some traits based on feedback received.
proposed some trait reworks!

(edited by Deimos Tel Arin.7391)

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Posted by: Tornupto.2304

Tornupto.2304

Vengeful Return (30s vengeance, can use vengeance immediately)

That would be more than just OP and Wars would be UNSTOMPABLE. So pls no.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Vengeful Return (30s vengeance, can use vengeance immediately)

That would be more than just OP and Wars would be UNSTOMPABLE. So pls no.

hmmm you are saying you have problem fighting a warrior with half health for 30 seconds ?

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Posted by: UmbraNoctis.1907

UmbraNoctis.1907

Why would you want to buff Defense GM traits? Defense is already mandatory for every warrior build and all GM traits are very strong and have their use. Warrior definitely doesn’t need even more defense/sustain.

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Posted by: dominik.9721

dominik.9721

naming the thread “buff wishlist” and talking about warriors…

Grimkram [sS]

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

akaCryptic.2389

Why are we talking about buffing things? We should be nerfing overused traits, not keep feeding the creep that is power in this arms race. The weak traits will be relatively better after nerfs, and if its not enough then we can talk about buffs.

Also, this might be better on the warrior forum.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Why would you want to buff Defense GM traits? Defense is already mandatory for every warrior build and all GM traits are very strong and have their use. Warrior definitely doesn’t need even more defense/sustain.

because i can ? this is a “wish list” after all.
and we all know “wish lists” are ignored here.

the buffs i proposed for defense gm traits would not give them any more sustain or defense since conditions can be still very easily reapplied.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

naming the thread “buff wishlist” and talking about warriors…

did you read what i wrote ?

near the start i wrote:
“i’ll start off with some warrior and necromancer traits since i played these 2 professions more often than others.”

at the end i wrote:
“everyone, contribute your ideas !”

i dun play other professions that much to know about which traits needs buffing or not.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Why are we talking about buffing things? We should be nerfing overused traits, not keep feeding the creep that is power in this arms race. The weak traits will be relatively better after nerfs, and if its not enough then we can talk about buffs.

Also, this might be better on the warrior forum.

nope. because “overused” traits are fine and working as intended while the “weak” traits are really worthless and needs major buffs in order to be on par with the [s]overused[/s[ normal traits.

and no, this belongs in the general pvp forum for all players to see.
i will be posting necromancer traits soon.

and everyone is welcome to post their wish list.

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Posted by: NICENIKESHOE.7128

NICENIKESHOE.7128

Vengeance is a downed 3 skill, every profession has that on CD so that players have a chance to stomp, not because who can’t kill a warrior on half health or what not. The trait does indeed need buff, but you’re looking at the wrong direction completely.

Cleansing ire was nerfed to hit rather than spent roughly 1.5-2 years ago for a good reason, and with the massive reward from the new adrenal health I see no reason to unnerf it.

I’m not sure what you’re going for dual wielding, seems like a pot shot chance to ask for perma quickness AND 20% attack speed.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Vengeance is a downed 3 skill, every profession has that on CD so that players have a chance to stomp, not because who can’t kill a warrior on half health or what not. The trait does indeed need buff, but you’re looking at the wrong direction completely.

Cleansing ire was nerfed to hit rather than spent roughly 1.5-2 years ago for a good reason, and with the massive reward from the new adrenal health I see no reason to unnerf it.

I’m not sure what you’re going for dual wielding, seems like a pot shot chance to ask for perma quickness AND 20% attack speed.

if removing the downed skill 3 starting cooldown is too much to ask for, then maybe 30s duration and rally with 100% health then might be more reasonable.

well, with the amount of conditions flying around at the moment, it would not hurt to buff condition cleanse a bit. after all, adrenal is still required to use burst skills.

if having both for dual wielding is too much to ask for, then perhaps only perma quickness then. since quickness is a boon, it can be corrupted, thus, a counter!

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

Chaith.8256

hmmm you are saying you have problem fighting a warrior with half health for 30 seconds ?

Just what do you think a Warrior and/or his team are doing while the enemy is getting the War into downed state before instantly popping up at half HP, continuing to get support and fight on?

I’m in support of buffing/reworking the seriously lacking traits, but the greed is real, @Deimos Tel Arin you’ve improved at the game and your understanding of balance, but this thread makes it seem like you’ve completely reverted to the kind of poster you were when you first got the game

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Posted by: Ellie.5913

Ellie.5913

I would love it if they buffed all the things that got nerfed over the years and no longer get used and that would be pretty much everything except HoT stuff. Oh and put back all the amulets and runes that got removed which resulted in 0 build diversity and tons of boredom.

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Posted by: Zynt.5769

Zynt.5769

More viable builds for all professions would be my request. There will always be a Meta, but it would be great to be able to spec for different things.

I know you don’t have to spec for Meta builds if you don’t want to, but currently all the professions just feel like they serve one purpose and that’s it. Disappointing since the whole reason the “holy trinity” was abandoned, was because they wanted us to be able to fill any role we wanted.

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Posted by: epouvante.7392

epouvante.7392

Pls just stop with war war war all the time. There are 9 professions and we always talk about war. This thread is not really cosntructive but more into personnal up wish list for your happiness. Actually the war is more than fine in pvp with condi and direct damage, in pve and wvw is also overused. And you want to up the overused trait?
I think they have first to balance all the over professions to give them 2 viable builds (or more) and a certain balance.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

hmmm you are saying you have problem fighting a warrior with half health for 30 seconds ?

Just what do you think a Warrior and/or his team are doing while the enemy is getting the War into downed state before instantly popping up at half HP, continuing to get support and fight on?

I’m in support of buffing/reworking the seriously lacking traits, but the greed is real, @Deimos Tel Arin you’ve improved at the game and your understanding of balance, but this thread makes it seem like you’ve completely reverted to the kind of poster you were when you first got the game

hmmm the warrior and his team are fighting the enemy ? XD

ahhhaha yeah you got me, imma greedy with it comes to asking for buffs for my favorite professions (although unfortunately i did not play warrior much in ranked season 1 and season 2 since my skill level is not good enough, even in season 3 i played reaper mostly to get through sapphire and reach ruby) and hmmm thanks for the compliment haha!

well, Chaith, posting up ridiculous buff requests like these tend to get more attention and i can always tweak the buff requests to be more reasonable after feedback from the public. however, too ridiculous buffs request may be ignored as well though.

so, yeah, removing the cooldown for warrior downed skill 3 is too much. imma edit the topic to reflect the feedback i received.

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

Chaith.8256

hmmm you are saying you have problem fighting a warrior with half health for 30 seconds ?

Just what do you think a Warrior and/or his team are doing while the enemy is getting the War into downed state before instantly popping up at half HP, continuing to get support and fight on?

I’m in support of buffing/reworking the seriously lacking traits, but the greed is real, @Deimos Tel Arin you’ve improved at the game and your understanding of balance, but this thread makes it seem like you’ve completely reverted to the kind of poster you were when you first got the game

hmmm the warrior and his team are fighting the enemy ? XD

ahhhaha yeah you got me, imma greedy with it comes to asking for buffs for my favorite professions (although unfortunately i did not play warrior much in ranked season 1 and season 2 since my skill level is not good enough, even in season 3 i played reaper mostly to get through sapphire and reach ruby) and hmmm thanks for the compliment haha!

well, Chaith, posting up ridiculous buff requests like these tend to get more attention and i can always tweak the buff requests to be more reasonable after feedback from the public. however, too ridiculous buffs request may be ignored as well though.

so, yeah, removing the cooldown for warrior downed skill 3 is too much. imma edit the topic to reflect the feedback i received.

Also you must not suggest Cleansing Ire to activate on consumption instead of on hit, that would dumb down Warrior quite a bit, Warriors that can actually land skills, read, and get around the enemy’s defenses – the difference between them and those of the faceroller variety gets smaller and smaller.

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