should sPvP have a 5 vs 5 guild arena?

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

hello! its me again! deimos the casual sPvP player!

at the moment, we have solo arena and team arena, with 2 separate leader boards for them. however, the leader board only show individual names.

from here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/will-gw2-ever-become-an-esport/3282440

First and foremost, Guild Wars 2 is marketed as an MMO with 2 types of PvP. And certain people in A.NET tries hard for the sPvP to take off as a rocket of its own. But in this regard, that GW2 has also other player bases (RPers, PvErs, Hardcore WvWvWers), it seems like sPvP can’t take of on its own. The cake is being halfed or quartered. Compared to LoL which has no MMO side, GW2 sPvP surely doesn’t look like what people expect it to look like.

What will work as a PvP in this game is WvWvW-> GvG. Because it is Guild Centric. It carries the Lore. And 20v20 carries the Massive-ly in the MMO genre. And the community that it will create will shoot off to the moon. For Guilds are social avenues. It is a community. If people will see in a community ran ladder that this guild is the best, people would wanna join it just for the sake of carrying the guild tag. People will talk about it. Guild drama will ensue. Guild rivalry will be forged. And since the gauge to prove that which guild is the best is played massively, people will be enticed to make gvg team A, B, C. See that’s 60 people already involved. And in business perspective, numbers count. higher number the better.

It is also not far that RPers will RP the guild rivalries based on GvGs. Guild members who are exclusively PvE would provide even the pot money when time comes that WvWvW GvGs will be lucrative to betting.

The current state of rewards in sPvP is very individualistic. The ladder is only 1 person per place. It is so egocentric. Guid Wars 1 had guilds on the ladder. And Guilds are composed of more than 1 person. So you are rewarding more than 1 person under the name of the top 1 guild.

And you are boosting the egos of more than 1 person if your Guild is popular, notorious etc.

So yeah, it seems like RP/PvE and WvWvW GvG are the most compatible pairs for Guild Wars 2 to go to the Next Level. And sPvP is just a novelty avenue. It could be chipped off from the package and let it be run like LoL. sPvP, to be able to stand by itself and prove that it is a good PvP game, must be separated from GW2 and be a Free To Play game. How to monetize it, follow the LoL model.

That’s how sPvP will become an esport. But it doesn’t offer anything groundbreaking so it has to compete in the same playing field with LoL.

It should stop parasiting on the real cash cows that is PvE and WvWvW/GvG.

Or come to think of it, for now it is better for sPvP to stick with the package with PvE+WvWvW because it looks to me that it can’t take off as its own.

should we have a 3rd arena, guild arena, where only guild teams may participate, i.e. a team of 5 guild members enters queue for the guild arena and fights other teams of 5 guild members.

the guild arena leader board is ranked by the names of the guilds, not the names of the individuals.

not exactly a guild vs guild, but at least now guilds would have a chance to prove their sPvP ranking in a guild leader board? maybe?

i know i do not play 5 vs 5 arena game modes but i want them (arena players) to be happy too.

so what does everyone else think?
should sPvP have a guild arena?

what kind of rewards should the guild arena have in order to attract PvE / WvW players to come over and participate?

various PvE / WvW bonuses for the guild who won?
PvE boosters?
WvW boosters?

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Posted by: Incurafy.6329

Incurafy.6329

A 5v5 guild ladder is the exact same thing as a 5v5 team ladder with the exception that a team ladder should list what players are in that team. If there’s going to be a guild ladder, it should be for XvX GvG, whatever size that is.

Ideally, we should have both.

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Posted by: Phaeton.9582

Phaeton.9582

I think this’s been ticking over for about a year.. Hopefully it’ll be brought up soon!


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Posted by: Decrypter.1785

Decrypter.1785

I think this’s been ticking over for about a year.. Hopefully it’ll be brought up soon!

Hi mate yeah pretty soon there will be gvg

[WM]give us in game ladder

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Posted by: Liam McColgan.7689

Liam McColgan.7689

Yeh, am I the only one who finds it odd that to get a good ladder ranking, you have to have a good TEAM…yet the reward of that is a PERSONAL ranking. Maybe it’s just because i come from a wow arena past, but fighting for team ranks by playing TEAM pvp is what it really should be about…get a cumulative team/guild (rooster), have a team mmr, play as a team, and try get your team up the ladder.

leave the solo ranking for yolo queue

End of the day, everyone talks/takes notice of what teams are good/bad/upcoming on the ladders, not individuals.

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Posted by: tichorum.2415

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Why would you need a 5v5 guild arena? Tell your guild to go to the Mists and buy a server and do it that way. That’s what private servers are for.

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Posted by: Overthrust.2659

Overthrust.2659

It just blows my mind how come Anet, creators of GW1 amazinng pvp, suddenly have no clue how to make PVP work in GW2.
Where is GvG guildhalls. and the hardcore competition?…ah they are bussy creating the next grinding pve patch

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