Guild Wars 2

i’ve done it myself, but recently, with award-pve crowd this has gone extreme. its all r1-10 vs r20-40.

sthing needs to be done.

well it is hotjoin after all.

i think not showing ranks in the score board after a match has ended will help.

I think it’s time for an unranked queue with hidden MMR

infantrydiv.1620:

I think it’s time for an unranked queue with hidden MMR

but then it would not be called hotjoin anymore if a queue is involved.

hotjoin is like any public fps games (team fortress 2, counter counter strike, battlefield etc) where people come and go as they like.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

infantrydiv.1620:

I think it’s time for an unranked queue with hidden MMR

but then it would not be called hotjoin anymore if a queue is involved.

hotjoin is like any public fps games (team fortress 2, counter counter strike, battlefield etc) where people come and go as they like.

And obviously comparing Guild Wars 2 to a first person shooter makes no sense at all.

Hotjoin is TERRIBLE for new players trying to learn the ropes of a conquest game type. Keep custom arenas for people wanting to just go into a map to duel, put an unranked queue for people wanting to play conquest in a semi competitive environment.

infantrydiv.1620:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

infantrydiv.1620:

I think it’s time for an unranked queue with hidden MMR

but then it would not be called hotjoin anymore if a queue is involved.

hotjoin is like any public fps games (team fortress 2, counter counter strike, battlefield etc) where people come and go as they like.

And obviously comparing Guild Wars 2 to a first person shooter makes no sense at all.

Hotjoin is TERRIBLE for new players trying to learn the ropes of a conquest game type. Keep custom arenas for people wanting to just go into a map to duel, put an unranked queue for people wanting to play conquest in a semi competitive environment.

perhaps it does not make sense at all for you but for me it makes perfect sense.

the ability to drop in and drop out of games are often found in first person shooter multi player games such as the ones i mentioned.

hence the term “hotjoin” as people are free to drop in and drop out.

yes i can agree with you that hotjoin 8 vs 8 is not an ideal place for new players to practice for 5 vs 5 solo arena or team arena.

hotjoin 8 vs 8 is simply a place for PvE players to complete their 4 sPvP daily achievements and that’s it.

well, solo arena is already a place to play conquest mode in a semi competitive environment. that is what i think anyway.

What OP is saying is true, matches are rarely 5v5, it’s usually 4v3 with 3 people waiting as spectators so that can join the winning team. It’s really not fun, being able to spectate and find the ranks of all the players in the match makes people only want to play to be on the winning team. It sours the hotjoin experience bigtime. Hotjoin should be pick up and play but if they can reduce the number sore losers who only join to be on the winning team it would be nice.

Also I have no experience with 8v8 hotjoin because it’s terrible, I play 5v5 hotjoin only.

i love hotjoin, rank 41 (almost entirely from hotjoin) now and have only ever chosen a side once (to get revenge on someone for trash talking)
imho it was better before spectator, when we were just put straight in to the game without the need for clicking random or a side.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

i think not showing ranks in the score board after a match has ended will help.

and how about not showing the names on scoreboard. sthing like:

xxxxxxxxxxxx – 240
xxxxxxxxxxxx – 120
your name – 110
xxxxxxxxx – 90

gesho.9468:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

i think not showing ranks in the score board after a match has ended will help.

and how about not showing the names on scoreboard. sthing like:

xxxxxxxxxxxx – 240
xxxxxxxxxxxx – 120
your name – 110
xxxxxxxxx – 90

this would work.
i think better.

because if we hide the ranks they can still remember the names of the high scoring people and choose to stick with them in the next round. this is what i did when i was doing my dragon bash win 20 rounds achievements back few months ago.

yeah, hide the names.
or replace them with WvW ranks.

for example:

name – score – rank
sea of sorrows invader – 240 – 41
tarnished coast assaulter – 120 – 31
deimos tel arin – 110 – 33
mutual friend – 100 – 23
borlis pass knight – 90 – 29
guild member – 80 – 13

only the names of mutual friends or guild members are shown in the leader board.