so every custom server
The free market in action.
yea i feel really bad for new players, they really have no good option to learn the game. and it has been that way since release.
Hotjoin is the same way. It isn’t surprising that customs are too.
Beast mode
Once people have to start paying for the CA’s there won’t be very many open up to the public, so tournaments will be the new hj. I think A-Net really overestimated the potential gain of revenue from CA’s.
Who is going to actually pay for those?
Who is going to actually pay for those?
If only other multiplayer games had dedicated servers…we could look at those and see however many hundreds of them there are…the historical precedent would be useful…oh well. /sarcasm
Who is going to actually pay for those?
If only other multiplayer games had dedicated servers…we could look at those and see however many hundreds of them there are…the historical precedent would be useful…oh well. /sarcasm
I guess we can look to ALL other mmo’s and predict the future success of NEW mmo’s…oh well, all I need to do is just invest in EVERY MMO…/sarcasm
Who is going to actually pay for those?
If only other multiplayer games had dedicated servers…we could look at those and see however many hundreds of them there are…the historical precedent would be useful…oh well. /sarcasm
How many of those other games have gamewide ladders that track ever player? How can custom arenas ever over take tournaments as the main game mode especially when you can customise things in a arena and play by all sorts of different rules. I think some people will pay for arenas but the fact of the matter is there will always be a sanctioned ruleset that A-net will use for ranked games that will have to happen outside of the customized arenas in tournaments. The point is not as ridiculous as you seem to think. I personally have zero plans to ever rent a customized arena. I’ll use other peoples that are made public or I will do tournaments.
Who is going to actually pay for those?
If only other multiplayer games had dedicated servers…we could look at those and see however many hundreds of them there are…the historical precedent would be useful…oh well. /sarcasm
GW2 is an MMO, are those other games? oh they aren’t?
Who is going to actually pay for those?
Glory/Rank farmers.
Who is going to actually pay for those?
Glory/Rank farmers.
Already saw 1 in within 5 minutes.
Who is going to actually pay for those?
If only other multiplayer games had dedicated servers…we could look at those and see however many hundreds of them there are…the historical precedent would be useful…oh well. /sarcasm
GW2 is an MMO, are those other games? oh they aren’t?
A dedicated server is a dedicated server, it doesn’t matter what game uses them. There are dozens of multiplayer PvP games – mostly shooters, but not all – that rely on some people paying for servers for the rest of the community to play on. This has been going on for decades.
If you are trying to argue that there will not be sufficient people renting servers for everyone to play, that’s fine, that’s your opinion. But I am letting you know that historical evidence contradicts your opinion. The nature of the game in question does not matter. The only thing that matters is that you have a good game and you provide the means for your players to perpetuate it – and so far, every single game community has chosen to do so (if the game’s good, for several years). I see no reason why GW2 would be any different.
I’m interested if you want to explain yourself further, though, so tell me: what property do MMOs have that shooters do not have that would result in players not paying for dedicated servers?
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historical evidence indicates that fps gamers who have come to expect private servers as the norm are willing to pay for them. I don’t see any evidence for mmo players. if rank and associated reward system actually offered a meaningful sense of progression people might be more inclined to pay to grind glory faster
IMO the only people who are going to pay are a few top teams and huge guild leaders that will just leave them open for 10v10 no cap glory farming as an advertisement for their guilds
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IMO the only people who are going to pay are a few top teams and huge guild leaders that will just leave them open for 10v10 no cap glory farming as an advertisement for their guilds
90% large pvx (though really they’re pve) guild advertising
good prediction
who else is gonna want to pay money to keep these things open?
if you think about it, pvers have tons of gold they can use to get gems for it
pvpers have to spend cash
and if I do remember correctly, we have a ton of hotjoin servers already, why do we have to pay money to choose who we fight?
I’m getting really tired of all the downgrades we’re getting from gw1
Who is going to actually pay for those?
If only other multiplayer games had dedicated servers…we could look at those and see however many hundreds of them there are…the historical precedent would be useful…oh well. /sarcasm
How many of those other games have gamewide ladders that track ever player? How can custom arenas ever over take tournaments as the main game mode especially when you can customise things in a arena and play by all sorts of different rules. I think some people will pay for arenas but the fact of the matter is there will always be a sanctioned ruleset that A-net will use for ranked games that will have to happen outside of the customized arenas in tournaments. The point is not as ridiculous as you seem to think. I personally have zero plans to ever rent a customized arena. I’ll use other peoples that are made public or I will do tournaments.
I don’t think that was the aim with CA’s. I think the main goal for CA’s is to host community made tournaments. Which are already being done. Monthly mmorpg.com tourny, guildwars2hub.com tourny, King of the (Custom Arena) Beta, just to list a few NA tournies. They’re doing exactly what they were created for.
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I was quite surprised when I found out yesterday you could actually still gain glory in custom servers. The only thing I can think of on why ANet did this was so they would get more revenue from custom servers from glory farmers, which to me seems like a short-sighted approach.
What they should have done is take a long-term approach and try to funnel as much players through the tournament system to increase the playerbase there, as that is really the only place new players can be motivated to actually play learn to play within the intended tourney structure. This would hopefully increase the health of the sPvP population as a whole, and people who become motivated/hardcore enough to form teams and such would then be incentivized to buy custom servers for their teams.
Had so much fun in a 2v2 server today. Loving it.
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