Guild Wars 2

Ok, I was terribly upset by my first post. I apologize for this 5 minutes duration rage.
It was because I´m r44, got a nice ratio of wins in tournament. Guess what.
I go solo Q, I get ppl below r20 and we face premade with ranks 40-50

I was like… wtf is this???
I lose rating because the matchmaking solo q vs team q fails terribly

There needs to be solo q vs solo q not solo q vs team q

thats totaly absurd and disadvantaging.

fix.

soon.

thx

^
calm down its just a game

Theres not many R50+ peeps out there. Maybe they was in que for like 30 mins and the system automatically makes another hi rank team like urs after 30 mins and you were just unlucky to have to face that team.

Nothing is perfect bro.

That guy is right.
They got wiped by our team cos soloque is just bad.

this game is a trap

(50e for nothing)

I thought everybody’s MMR was reset so it’s going to take a while for you to get matched up correctly.

You guys are complaining for nothing. You need to play a LOT of games before your rating stabilizes. Soon enough all the premade teams that are good will be out of your SOLO queue rating anyway.

Oh, people still play this game?? You guys really believe that anet is capable of fixing the game?? The fact is they cant, its funny how history repeats itself….just look at Guild Wars 1.Nuff said…. Amen!!

Gilgamesh.2561:

Godly Black Ownage.4902:

Oh, people still play this game?? You guys really believe that anet is capable of fixing the game?? The fact is they cant, its funny how history repeats itself….just look at Guild Wars 1.Nuff said…. Amen!!

Go back to WoW.

I did.

Bye

playandchill.3908:

Gilgamesh.2561:

Godly Black Ownage.4902:

Oh, people still play this game?? You guys really believe that anet is capable of fixing the game?? The fact is they cant, its funny how history repeats itself….just look at Guild Wars 1.Nuff said…. Amen!!

Go back to WoW.

I did.

Bye

See you next month

playandchill.3908:

Gilgamesh.2561:

Godly Black Ownage.4902:

Oh, people still play this game?? You guys really believe that anet is capable of fixing the game?? The fact is they cant, its funny how history repeats itself….just look at Guild Wars 1.Nuff said…. Amen!!

Go back to WoW.

I did.

Bye

Funny enough, I did too. GW2 made me appreciate WoW pvp.

Fernling.1729:

playandchill.3908:

Gilgamesh.2561:

Godly Black Ownage.4902:

Oh, people still play this game?? You guys really believe that anet is capable of fixing the game?? The fact is they cant, its funny how history repeats itself….just look at Guild Wars 1.Nuff said…. Amen!!

Go back to WoW.

I did.

Bye

Funny enough, I did too. GW2 made me appreciate WoW pvp.

As bad as some of these patchnotes are….you actually LIKE getting CC’d/rooted/stunned every couple of seconds?

condiments.8043:

Fernling.1729:

playandchill.3908:

Gilgamesh.2561:

Godly Black Ownage.4902:

Oh, people still play this game?? You guys really believe that anet is capable of fixing the game?? The fact is they cant, its funny how history repeats itself….just look at Guild Wars 1.Nuff said…. Amen!!

Go back to WoW.

I did.

Bye

Funny enough, I did too. GW2 made me appreciate WoW pvp.

As bad as some of these patchnotes are….you actually LIKE getting CC’d/rooted/stunned every couple of seconds?

I played a rogue and mage. ^^

World of Warcraft PvP is a joke.
In GW2, every class has cool abilities, options, playstyles, and there is a definate skill threshold for performance.

In WoW, you just spam your CC buttons while you mongo your dps rotation into a targets face while you’ve got 2 or more 4+ minute CDs rolling and hope you land a kill.
If you don’t, eat every CC chain for the next 4 minutes (which is probably the funnest part of the meta) and try again.

I don’t understand how you guys could believe that system is superior.
More developed?
Absolutely.
But in no way Superior. Seriously, we just got a real MMR system today. It’s coming, but it takes time. For all you die-hards, recall that rated PvP didn’t even exist at the start of Vanilla WoW.
It takes time to grow and mature.

WoW combat has depth. GW2 doesn’t. The combat requires much more coordination and multitasking, and it’s much harder in WoW as a bad player to beat a good player.

WoW’s combat revolves around working someone down through forcing cooldowns and preventing team mates from supporting them. GW2 is different in this regard, but that doesn’t mean WoW is just a mindless CCfest. GW2 could very well be called a mindless button mashing burst fest by a WoW player.

I haven’t played WoW in years and I never plan on playing the game again, so don’t call me a fanboy and pretend like that suddenly makes my post irrelevant.

But in no way Superior. Seriously, we just got a real MMR system today. It’s coming, but it takes time. For all you die-hards, recall that rated PvP didn’t even exist at the start of Vanilla WoW.
It takes time to grow and mature.

This argument is flawed and I have no idea why everyone keeps on using it. Let’s use obvious and overused example of black and white movies. There. I just prevented a five page discussion. Next.

WoW PvP developed, with a very large playerbase, and still failed. GW2 PvP is still developing. It may fail as well, but at least it still has potential.

Skyro.3108:

WoW PvP developed, with a very large playerbase, and still failed. GW2 PvP is still developing. It may fail as well, but at least it still has potential.

And some diehards like us who just won’t let the thing die… I guess we’re doing our part,

When do I get paid?

This has never happened to any game ever during their early days of match making…

oh…

wait…

-.-

you guys act like vanilla wow’s world pvp wasn’t extremely fun. don’t talk about gear grinds either, sure, some guy with a hand of rag had an advantage but the way numbers scaled you still had a chance if you outplayed him. not to mention pvp at low levels still existed. then bc came around and arena was fun for awhile. Then I was out because it got repetitive and I wasn’t fond of the new skills. But the point remains.

it’s kind of sad I actually think of AV as a fun and dynamic pvp map now in comparison

Harrywinky.8632:

I get ppl below r20 and we face premade with ranks 40-50

Oh come on, where is the “rank doesnt matter” crowd to tell you that those below r20 in your team were pure skill baddies.

dejay.2598:

you guys act like vanilla wow’s world pvp wasn’t extremely fun. don’t talk about gear grinds either, sure, some guy with a hand of rag had an advantage but the way numbers scaled you still had a chance if you outplayed him. not to mention pvp at low levels still existed. then bc came around and arena was fun for awhile. Then I was out because it got repetitive and I wasn’t fond of the new skills. But the point remains.

it’s kind of sad I actually think of AV as a fun and dynamic pvp map now in comparison

NO ONE had a chance against my rogue one shotting them unless they were fully geared BWL+ tank for their guild in WoW vanilla.

So I’m not sure where you are coming from but WoW was built on one-shots which evolved into stun-fests later on in arena.

Altie.4571:

dejay.2598:

you guys act like vanilla wow’s world pvp wasn’t extremely fun. don’t talk about gear grinds either, sure, some guy with a hand of rag had an advantage but the way numbers scaled you still had a chance if you outplayed him. not to mention pvp at low levels still existed. then bc came around and arena was fun for awhile. Then I was out because it got repetitive and I wasn’t fond of the new skills. But the point remains.

it’s kind of sad I actually think of AV as a fun and dynamic pvp map now in comparison

NO ONE had a chance against my rogue one shotting them unless they were fully geared BWL+ tank for their guild in WoW vanilla.

So I’m not sure where you are coming from but WoW was built on one-shots which evolved into stun-fests later on in arena.

maybe if you head the best gear in the game vs someone in greens, even still if you so happen to not get that one shot a spriest/mage/ hunter can still beat you even at 10% life

and ofc cc became dominant, only because it was impossible to kill someone without a perfectly set up cc chain after resil. I played non cheese comps in the top 10 of every bracket on both my mage and warrior in bc. sure they had hard counters and soft counters, but it was still fun and rewarding.

unless you played a warrior in vanilla, you could still have fun in world pvp in blues. and 98% of the time if someone had the best gear in the game they were dedicated to pve and sucked. rewatch some old footage of vanilla pvp heros they all played in kitten gear except the guy who made world of paladincraft and that hwl chinese warrior

condiments.8043:

Fernling.1729:

playandchill.3908:

Gilgamesh.2561:

Godly Black Ownage.4902:

Oh, people still play this game?? You guys really believe that anet is capable of fixing the game?? The fact is they cant, its funny how history repeats itself….just look at Guild Wars 1.Nuff said…. Amen!!

Go back to WoW.

I did.

Bye

Funny enough, I did too. GW2 made me appreciate WoW pvp.

As bad as some of these patchnotes are….you actually LIKE getting CC’d/rooted/stunned every couple of seconds?

what game are you talking about cuz i get cc/chilled/knocked back constantly in GW2

i was just in pug vs pug. my team r 29, r12, r1 (no joke), r15, r17 other team r25-37 GG

Sprawl.3891:

i was just in pug vs pug. my team r 29, r12, r1 (no joke), r15, r17 other team r25-37 GG

That r1 was the best r1 in the whole universe and 12 with 15 were better than average r80. Rank doesn’t matter, does it ?

Maylojager.1307:

Sprawl.3891:

i was just in pug vs pug. my team r 29, r12, r1 (no joke), r15, r17 other team r25-37 GG

That r1 was the best r1 in the whole universe and 12 with 15 were better than average r80. Rank doesn’t matter, does it ?

The rank 1 had 10 points at the end and was asking what combos were. One of the guys was an anet dev too hammamond or something. Of course even he was mute.

This was hilarious .. till we worked up our mmr we kept facing teams r1-10 then r20-30 finally we can steam roll r40+ again.

soloQ, i think it’s perfect

SeeYa.3640:

soloQ, i think it’s perfect

One ss say it all.
I tried yesterday with a friend 3 times,on the 3rd we played 3 vs 4 and they had 3 man premade.
I am gonna w8 for it to stabilize the rating before going solo queue again.

So, after all the reflection you guys have been doing,

do you understand that WoW PvP doesn’t HAVE to be good for you to be compelled to like it? You’ve been doing it for as much as 8 years.

I had been doing it for a little over 5, personally, and in that time have been able to play (almost) every class in the meta at some point throughout.

There is a many-year history built with the game. regardless of the actual PvP combat, the game has been refined by almost a decade of player-catered changes and polishing. You’re also used to it by years.

But with WoW PvP, you cant just buy the game and expect to be okily-dokily. You’re going to have to invest a perpetual kittenton of time into the game before you’re even considered acceptable to start queuing for rated content — and the majority of the time it takes to get there you’ll be getting your face caved in by full-lewts [insert fotm class here].
This is not fun on more than 1 character, or for more than 1 spec, ever.
its hardly considered fun the first season you try to push rating, and it hasn’t gotten that much better 13 seasons later.

The GW2 aesthetic armour system is vastly superior in my books.
The lack of spammed 8sec CC that runs me into Taiwan is vastly superior in my books.
The combat itself, both aesthetically and functionally, is vastly superior in my books.
The profession balance, in general, is vastly superior in my books.

But the amount of Icing they’ve poured all over PvP?
Not too much.
And that seems to be what people are waiting for.

In the next few days/weeks, rating will evolve and keep premades off solo’ers.

Plus it’s not that much of an issue really if it only happens once in a while and the matchmaking algorithm factors that into account.

Anyone knows though, if there’s a difference between clicking the join solo button and submitting a roster with only yourself in?

Hugs.1856:

Anyone knows though, if there’s a difference between clicking the join solo button and submitting a roster with only yourself in?

No difference whatsoever.

Solo q …… Joke its like i go solo and and up vs team

Verisuvalise.3615:

It takes time to grow and mature.

They wont. It’s easier to complain and rage then it is to offer up solutions.

Oh, you were talking about GW2 PvP? Yeah I completely agree.

Christ come down kids, it will take time for the system to rank people it’s been a DAY.

I was just in tournament and there was 4 of us against premade team + 1 guy immediately left. GW2 made me appreciate tetris pvp….oh wait.