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Posted by: Cynz.9437

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…and fix blinding dissipation ignoring dodges already :|

I don’t understand why this crap is even allowed, i thought devs weren’t allowed to favor any group of players yet we have mesmers rampaging in pvp and abusing bugs and i am sure this will going on untill WTS is over.

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Posted by: Phil.8901

Phil.8901

Honestly i think you’re too much optimistic they can fix this stuff immediately after WTS.

It would be a miracle.

The list is pretty long, Mesmer has multiple op traits (PU and Confounding suggestions most of all), elementalist the same, Burning and Rampage is easier to fix.

But mesmer and elementalist require an heavy large fix to keep them in line with other professions right now.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

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Those are balancing issues, blind going thought dodges is a bug.

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

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The list of mesmer things to be fixed has already been narrowed down quite nicely. As you said, its PU, CS, and blinding disappation. All of these need a simple number tweak and blinding disappation needs to not hit through and evade. Its quite simple really. Balancing D/D ele, on the other hand, not so much.

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Posted by: Velimere.7685

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Prismatic Understanding is garbage in conquest. People crying for Prismatic Understanding nerfs need to stop getting farmed by hot-join superstars and queue up. Mantra Shatter beats any Prismatic Understanding build any day of the week, and maybe has 1 stealth ability (Mass Invisibility if you’re not slotting Signet of Humility to counter transforms).

That said, yes Blinding Dissipation needs to stop going through evades, and yes Confounding Suggestions should only inflict stun on interrupt.

Anyone who says Zerk is the average Joe build is an average Joe.

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Posted by: Phil.8901

Phil.8901

Prismatic Understanding is garbage in conquest. People crying for Prismatic Understanding nerfs need to stop getting farmed by hot-join superstars and queue up. Mantra Shatter beats any Prismatic Understanding build any day of the week, and maybe has 1 stealth ability (Mass Invisibility if you’re not slotting Signet of Humility to counter transforms).

That said, yes Blinding Dissipation needs to stop going through evades, and yes Confounding Suggestions should only inflict stun on interrupt.

Did you realize every ESL/WTS Mesmer is using PU right?

You know, staying 1 hour in stealth has some good advantage against everything.

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Posted by: Exciton.8942

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Prismatic Understanding is garbage in conquest. People crying for Prismatic Understanding nerfs need to stop getting farmed by hot-join superstars and queue up. Mantra Shatter beats any Prismatic Understanding build any day of the week, and maybe has 1 stealth ability (Mass Invisibility if you’re not slotting Signet of Humility to counter transforms).

That said, yes Blinding Dissipation needs to stop going through evades, and yes Confounding Suggestions should only inflict stun on interrupt.

Did you realize every ESL/WTS Mesmer is using PU right?

You know, staying 1 hour in stealth has some good advantage against everything.

I watched some of them last few weeks. Majority of them run inspiration line actually. That line provides very strong condie removal which mesmer has been lacking before.

PU is definitely not garbage in conquest. But picking PU(chaos line) means you run with no condie removal. You have to eat any condie spam in full. 2 stacks of bleed might not be that much, but when they last 10 seconds on you. They still do quite a bit damage and prevent you from getting out of combat.

Most of the meta classes have very strong condie removal, let it be eles, guards or warriors. Even thief has pretty decent ability of removing condies. It really great reduced the risk when running certain spec.

Back to PU. It is pretty good for mesmer to survive nasty situations and provides more potential for ganking other squishies. But if won’t help you 1v1 any sustainable oppositions. It definitely helps bad players a lot in your everyday ranked/unranked. But in actual tournament level, when players do proper rotation and pay attention to where the mesmer is heading. Its potential is greatly reduced. It really can’t help you stay longer in fights nor help you win fights against more sustainable classes.

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Posted by: Phil.8901

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Like a Mesmer you’re a roamer and your role is basically the same of a thief (+ portal). You have an insane stealth opening with huge burst that is really too much strong in Teamfight scenario with a PU mesmer.

Condi removals are not necessary when you can go in stealth for so long and keeping a position really far to the combat because you have a GS who makes super damage from distance. Don’t forget invulnerability and blind.

Helseth will use PU version, Frostball the same, and every other Mesmer with brain will use PU mesmer shatter until nerf.

When Anet will nerf PU they will swith to powerblock build who is insane in different ways but always insane for Confounding suggestion and they have huge sustain with Inspiration line.

In a short way, both of these 2 builds have a broken balance damage/sustain (disengage)

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Posted by: Sorel.4870

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You don’t get it Cynz. Helseth, being the best player in the game, got in the WTS with his very recent team, crushing oRNG during the qualifiers. Anet got scared, and knowing that Helseth would still win if he was playing with only the Moa transform skills and the Portal, decided to overbuff mesmer to rob Helsteth from the sweet victory he’s been wanting for years, since people would just complain his build was OP. Gg Anet.

Helseth has been playing a subpar profession for years. How the tables have turned…

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

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The only reason Anet buffed Mesmer at all was because they wanted to see Helseth do another one of those prediction videos where he runs around the PvP Lobby ranting about how Scepter 1 spam is going to be the new meta and how it’ll be the end of Mesmer as we know it.

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

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Anet has forseen that the great lord will one day rain upon the plebs with his great, purple, butterfly wrath and assert his dominance and felt that it was time to stop limiting him.