Guild Wars 2

So most games are either a 2v4 or a 4v2 in terms of known players per team and the outcome is determined even before game start already.

I am qing from top 10 and get matched with killshot warriors who run into 1v1s and die etc. making it completely impossible to win the game literally 4v5.

Balance wise classes who rely on their team cant carry as hard as engi or thief who can just carry alone by either winning all duels and surviving like a god on engi or outnumbering and decapping constantly as usually there is no real defense or control on side points in uncoordinated groups.

Whats the point of this whole system?

pretty UI tho.

I wonder how I am supposed to win every game (since I lose nearly twice as much rating for every lose than I gain for a win) while my team can’t even win favorable match ups 90% of the time.
This is the worst pvp experience I have ever had in this game far. It is actually worse than season 2 and 3. When I do the highest damage on my team as a mender druid while I have a reaper and a rev you cannot possibly tell me that I am on the better team.
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Erzian.5218:

I wonder how I am supposed to win every game (since I lose nearly twice as much rating for every lose than I gain for a win) while my team can’t even win favorable match ups 90% of the time.
This is the worst pvp experience I have ever had in this game far. It is actually worse than season 2 and 3. When you do the highest damage on your team as a mender druid while you have a reaper and a rev you cannot possible tell me that I am favored.

but hey the top 10 duos are having fun!

Idk I have never had trouble solo carrying bad teams vs other bad teams (apart from the occasional blow out), but this season it seems impossible. If I put myself in outnumbered situations, half of the teams I am on will lose 4v3 and if I try to support them in team fights 1-3 people die before the first celestial avatar is even charged.
It is kittening ridiculous and I really do not know how to win those games that I should supposedly win. It is frustrating. Meanwhile, I need more than 60% win rate to even break even on mmr. Some matches are close but if I played like the majority of the players in my games (teammates and opponents alike), I am 100% sure I’d lose nearly every game with less than 200 points.

Yes I can duo queue and win a lot more, but honestly I should not have to duo queue just to get somewhat enjoyable matches.
Maybe it is just because I mostly queue late night as I have connection issues during prime time but this still blows :|

You have to accept you will lose sometimes. I know you are probably the biggest rager i have seen in any game, but you just have to accept it.

Lordrosicky.5813:

You have to accept you will lose sometimes. I know you are probably the biggest rager i have seen in any game, but you just have to accept it.

It is just pathetic how you can duo q with pro league ele/necro at 4am and you cant even win a game cause your teammates literally block any chance of winning.

I want to be rewarded for playing better than my opponents. The matchmaking is not reliable at all. The balancing is not made for duo q either.

Blackjack.5621:

Lordrosicky.5813:

You have to accept you will lose sometimes. I know you are probably the biggest rager i have seen in any game, but you just have to accept it.

It is just pathetic how you can duo q with pro league ele/necro at 4am and you cant even win a game cause your teammates literally block any chance of winning.

I want to be rewarded for playing better than my opponents. The matchmaking is not reliable at all. The balancing is not made for duo q either.

That makes no sense. Sometimes your 5 including you will lose to their 5. You want a system where you personally never lose? That makes zero sense.

I’ve played more than 16k matches in this game and came into this season with a positive w/l ratio, but I can’t seem to buy a win because my teammates don’t seem to understand conquest, and aren’t really concerned about winning since they get the pips and rewards anyways.

I’m not sure how you foster a “competitive environment” when you hand out the rewards simply for participation.

I’m sorry but I think this is the worst season.

I mean the attempt was nice on paper but bad implemented.

The main reason is because basically you can’t progress in solo from platinum + or legendary, there is a stuck point where you lose more points than you gain and you’re basically stuck and don’t move at all and probably more you play, more you go down.

Matchmaking is not perfect so loss are inevitable and many times the system is broken because it only consider mmr but not professions so maybe it thinks you can win but in reality not and you lose a lot of points.

Basically it’s like if in the old Seasons we won 1 pip for winning and lost 2 pips for losing without winstreaks or losstreaks.

In legendary or platinum 3 the situation is ridicolus I lost the count how many players have less than 15 games and this system doesn’t promote to play because punish you in haevy way if you lose, and ofc if you can’t win against better player because they’re afk the entire system is kitten bad.

Ok rant over, some suggestions:

1) Do something about how many points you win/lose because it’s ridicolous you arrive at some point where you lose more than you gain

2) personal performance should be considered in the mmr points at the end of the game for a little bonus. Maybe you can consider that only in case of loss dunno but you need to reward players if they play well and try to do really the best for the team and at the end the lose the game.

3) Old mmr and 10 initial games have too much impact on your placement and your season progression. Many players bumped their old mmr in team or stronghold so you need to rework the formula because the weight is so high. Honestly I don’t really care if you put me in gold, platinum or legendary at the beginning but I need to have a chance to progress in solo or the entire season is totally useless for me.

4) The system can’t properly balance strong duo queue from every side in every game, so when you’re in the wrong side, you’ll lose the game and you’ll lose more points than winning. This has a huge impact on progression. Promote solo play in terms of score if you want to mantain the duo queue or just implement a pure solo queue.

5) Too many afk in lb, something needs to change here.

I got paired with a DH that walked into a glass warriors hundred blades. Then while dead called be bad for not stomping the person I had downed with 10% and no stab, while that same warrior was still there.

Matches during the day are a lot better actually. It feels like playing with people instead of bots. Guess the main reason for the poor matches was the low player pool.

i seriously doubt ive seen something worst than this, i thought it was LoL , but i think gw2 is getting the first place in cancer game category for pvp. I think pvp died and people who play are just pver’s who want to farm EASY ascended. I dont know what to believe now these changes were supposed to bring good matches but instead anet brought the whole silverwastes here ? GG

Don´t paint it too black :-). Basics are good. It´s still flawed and the placement higly random.
Beside. that i managed to get damage stat (about 30% of the groups damage) with tempest and a guardian took top healing despite me having over 200k there.

Wolfric.9380:

Don´t paint it too black :-). Basics are good. It´s still flawed and the placement higly random.
Beside. that i managed to get damage stat (about 30% of the groups damage) with tempest and a guardian took top healing despite me having over 200k there.

Nah my friend , to be honest i dont care that i got demoted to silver 2 after i was almost plat, i just want to have these 498-500 matches back ! its like lame to have to many loses because either people are afk or simply do everything wrong lol

“terrible experience in new system”
… except it has been like this for years, OP. If you would have played solo mainly, you would notice it. If you played solo in higher tiers in first weeks of last seasons, it was exactly the same as well. There were few good players and rest potatoes and whatever team got more of the same potatoes would lose.

Surely, there is Evan posting on forums consistently that forced 50% winrate doesn’t exist, surely some will say “git good”. Bit stacked teams, forced losses (sry, 500-100 match is a forced loss/win) has been there since launch basically. Absurd class imbalance and class stacking isn’t helping either.

The only difference is that removal of teams vs solo and change to number rating (vs pip) just made the issue more visible.

for someone that has “WTS Boston winner” in his signature you shouldnt complain about facing good players LOL

Moxi.5861:

for someone that has “WTS Boston winner” in his signature you shouldnt complain about facing good players LOL

His complain is not that he is facing good players, his complain is that teams are put together with huge skill gaps, e.g. 1 team has 4 ESL players and 1 potato where other team has 1 ESL player and 4 potatoes. The outcome is pretty obvious. Idk why he thinks it is new, when it has been like this for years,if you played solo.

Cynz.9437:

Moxi.5861:

for someone that has “WTS Boston winner” in his signature you shouldnt complain about facing good players LOL

His complain is not that he is facing good players, his complain is that teams are put together with huge skill gaps, e.g. 1 team has 4 ESL players and 1 potato where other team has 1 ESL player and 4 potatoes. The outcome is pretty obvious. Idk why he thinks it is new, when it has been like this for years,if you played solo.

It’s the same complaints made every season.

It’s just this time around you don’t have the frustration of facing premades on top of everything else.

It’s overall a good move in the right direction, but the flat MMR reset wasn’t in my opinion the right way to go about it. You have people in the 1.7k and 1.6k brackets that have no idea what they’re doing or how to play their class.

Pretty much tons of 1.6-1.8k have no idea what they’re doing. My friend placed 1.9k and is now 1.4k, tons of them are overrated right now and it really shows.

I had a mesmer lose a 1v1 to an ele, like literally he died to the standard meta ele in ~1700 rating/plat. I’ve also seen some placement guys on the enemy teams which leads to 500-0 games.

I’m not an amazing player by any stretch, currently ~1700ish grinded my way up from 1400 due to poor placement but these are my last 10 games in Plat lol. Sooo many are not close at all. I will add none of them are 4v5s or DCs or anything like that, they were all actual 5v5s.

The system seems to be better but in all honesty it should place more emphasis on the individual’s contribution in the game to up their rating and get them where they should be.

Blackjack.5621:

Lordrosicky.5813:

You have to accept you will lose sometimes. I know you are probably the biggest rager i have seen in any game, but you just have to accept it.

It is just pathetic how you can duo q with pro league ele/necro at 4am and you cant even win a game cause your teammates literally block any chance of winning.

I want to be rewarded for playing better than my opponents. The matchmaking is not reliable at all. The balancing is not made for duo q either.

Neither you or Posi are qualified to ever be considered PRO LEAGUE players in the first place. The only reason you ever reached anywhere considerably close to competing at live events is either by being carried by a team and later getting kicked due to incompetence (Zapdos) or cheating your way into a competitive spot for an event by ddosing your opponents or having other (better) players participating on your account for you. The only live event Posi attended was the one mine and Helseths team was disqualified from and Paradigm who actually took first place in qualifier also ended up being disqualified from due to nationalities not aligning with the rules. Maybe you should just accept that on an actual gameplay level your mechanics is average and you do not deserve to be anywhere close to top 10 on EU leaderboard.

Soooooo……we have drama here!

Denshee.5917:

Blackjack.5621:

Lordrosicky.5813:

You have to accept you will lose sometimes. I know you are probably the biggest rager i have seen in any game, but you just have to accept it.

It is just pathetic how you can duo q with pro league ele/necro at 4am and you cant even win a game cause your teammates literally block any chance of winning.

I want to be rewarded for playing better than my opponents. The matchmaking is not reliable at all. The balancing is not made for duo q either.

Neither you or Posi are qualified to ever be considered PRO LEAGUE players in the first place. The only reason you ever reached anywhere considerably close to competing at live events is either by being carried by a team and later getting kicked due to incompetence (Zapdos) or cheating your way into a competitive spot for an event by ddosing your opponents or having other (better) players participating on your account for you. The only live event Posi attended was the one mine and Helseths team was disqualified from and Paradigm who actually took first place in qualifier also ended up being disqualified from due to nationalities not aligning with the rules. Maybe you should just accept that on an actual gameplay level your mechanics is average and you do not deserve to be anywhere close to top 10 on EU leaderboard.

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“Neither you or Posi are qualified to ever be considered PRO LEAGUE players in the first place.”

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jmhlk2ccwQ&feature=youtu.be
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Denshee flaming on skill when hes lowest skilled guy i’ve seen so far, that made my day. Thanks buddy