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Posted by: acelara orion.4210

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at first i wanna clear something. i’ve been playing mesmer for 2 years and im platinum so i know 1 or 2 things about mesmer. Now back to main topic-now a days main source of gold grinding is frac 40. lets say u put together a meta party and u need a mesmer so what would u choose? mirage or chrono?? i think we all know the answer. same goes to raids. A chronomancer can be a tank,support and if u build it with chronomancer rune with the new trait from dueling(superiority complex),domination and chronomancer. it almost gives u perma quickness(with 4 wells and blink). so its 100% sure in case of power build chrono is better than mirage(which has no power build whatsoever) and pve is all about berserker. Now lets talk about pvp, ya ya lots of condis and stuff, trust me it seems op when you are practising over robots, at first i thought it was op but when i went to pvp all my clones got cleaved in sec___daredevils kittend me in my kitten __ suffering from lack of shield and chronophantasma__ there was no superspeed for illusions so no long range shatters and etc….in summary i think mirage has no valid use for pve and in pvp its clumsy as hell and the whole point of mesmer is offensive and defensive shatters for condi cleanse and heal but mirage is all about keeping the illusion counts up so it contradicts the mesmer and i dont know how you are supposed to survive against DH and DD but good luck and finaly good luck using mirage with moa and portal(which defines a good mesmer). well im going back to my cool timecontrolling mesmer.what about you? ( sorry for bad english not my first lang)

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Posted by: NICENIKESHOE.7128

NICENIKESHOE.7128

English is one thing…but put together comfortable paragraphs should be quite basic.

Anyways I do agree, mirage is quite lackluster atm and a lot of “nice stacks” you see in streams are commonly done on stationary golem only. In actual fights clones died within seconds after spawn, which is detrimental to mirage’s damage. Mirage’s own ambush has 1.25s to activate after dodge which defeats the purpose and is often ignored. More importantly whatever mirage does a chronomancer could do better and easier.

Overall mirage just lack utility/support, lack tanking and lack damage. This was reflected across forums and reddits, by both new players and experienced veterans like Helseth.

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

It gives us a spec that is centered around clones… and gives us close-to-zero support for clone survivability or damage or functionality. Makes sense to me!

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Posted by: jonemirant.1653

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yeah, but did you really think they could come up with something better than chrono?

the only way mirage get taken over chrono is if anet nerfs chrono to the bone, which is far more likely and probably way more easier than think of something actually ingenious to make mirage viable.

chrono is masterpiece of gw2, unique, original, effective, skill-based and fun. you don’t get a lot of those combined together in real life or in game.

having said all of the above, i like the mirage concept and was actually my favorite in terms of concept in pof (dis and yolosmith). but there is always a difference between concept and execution.

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Posted by: Odik.4587

Odik.4587

yeah, but did you really think they could come up with something better than chrono?

the only way mirage get taken over chrono is if anet nerfs chrono to the bone, which is far more likely and probably way more easier than think of something actually ingenious to make mirage viable.

chrono is masterpiece of gw2, unique, original, effective, skill-based and fun. you don’t get a lot of those combined together in real life or in game.

having said all of the above, i like the mirage concept and was actually my favorite in terms of concept in pof (dis and yolosmith). but there is always a difference between concept and execution.

They arldy nerfed chrono for sake of PoF sales and made that trait completely useless in all game modes, have no idea where you can use this garbage

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Posted by: Zelulose.8695

Zelulose.8695

Chrono could and should get nerfed again as well as inspiration. Less condition clear and an actual 10 second hole the the mesmer notorious block evade stealth defense rotation when spammed. Then mesmer could even see a damage buff without much retribution from the community making many builds viable again. (We also need a huge phantasm buff to damage to make Mirage viable)

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Posted by: Jace al Thor.6745

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Except for Mirage to be viable you need a clone buff more than you do a phantasm buff. Anet should implement the AoE damage reduction to all illusions in all game modes and that alone would open up Mirage to be some what useful. I say some what because it still have inherent problems outside of that.

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