Guild Wars 2

so i have been playing my thief in a lot of PvP lately and i’m trying to figure out the best build…right now my favorite burst down is straight crits and shadow 0 30 30 10 0….is there anything more viable than this? I got it from a youtube video that was like 6 months old but its the newest thing i’ve been able to find.

The latest rage is s/d evade builds.

I like run the 0/30/30/10/0 or 0/30/30/0/10.

25/30/0/0/15 was popular for burst until mug got nerfed.

Signet burst build is hilariously fun. D/d 30/30/0/0/10. Run all signets and the signets of power from crit line.

Time it right and you backstab for 14k in spvp on weak targets. Literally had no defense at all tho, but fun.

Seriously try out that signet build he mentions above. Sure you’ll melt if they hit you, but I was messing around in wvw with a friend with it and maxed out at 17k CnD and 32k backstab, which is downright criminal (kind of thieflike really).

If you want something different, you can run a boon stealing build that focuses on stuns and mobility. 10-30-0-0-30. I run that one in wvw since I’m usually in a small group and its nice to be able to cc and boon strip.

Helly.2597:

17k CnD

That’s hardly possible. I calculated the glassiest gear on a thief with the glassiest possible traits… I mean, seriously. All of the gear is Ascended zerker. The weapons are Zerker. The traits are 30/30/x/x/x. I mean… When I finally did all the calculations- and this is given certain other circumstances, i.e. at night, a critical hit, that the weapon hits akittens maximum possible power, etc- the maximum amount of damage CnD can do is just barely 17.1k. Oh, and this was on somebody with 1000 defense (toughness + armor).

Are you sure you actually managed to pull this off?

@arganthium, I wouldn’t take any notice of helly regarding those numbers.. we are all experienced enough with a thief to know that just doesn’t happen.

@cynrain – if you don’t like full power gc build, you can go for acro instead of shadow arts. its a different play style but works well imo, especially with SD…something like, 0/30/0/25/25 , take withdraw and focus on evading constantly rather than stealth

bomber.1540:

@arganthium, I wouldn’t take any notice of helly regarding those numbers.. we are all experienced enough with a thief to know that just doesn’t happen.

Apparently, it can happen (in theory), but the fact of the matter is that it’s impossible unless there are extremely special circumstances. As in “my character is running completely naked around the battlefield”-type circumstances, and on a pure glass (as in 100% glass, no exceptions) thief with approximately 5000 power (the highest I could pull it up to on the GW2 build editor) with 113% crit damage, Executioner active, Nightmare sigil active, 25 stacks of bloodlust, 25 stacks of might, the Ogre Rune 4% damage buff active, the Dagger Training buff active, with the weapon coefficient as high as possible (I suppose it could be slightly lower, but not much lower)=. It certainly couldn’t be the standard average 952.5), and on a critical strike, of course. Even then, the damage just barely reaches over 17k- 17.1k, as a matter of fact. Since every profession has 916 base toughness at level 80, this further means that the person getting hit couldn’t have been wearing more than… Well, a loincloth, essentially.

Either way, I think we can thoroughly conclude that under normal circumstances, this damage is impossible to achieve, so in that regard you are correct. But apparently it’s theoretically possible… Not the kind of thing you have to worry about in battle though.

Oh, and this is only in WvW. Anywhere else, it’s impossible.

You guys are awesome :] thank you so much…yea i’m not really buying the 17k crits, but i really do enjoy the sig burst burst…lots of fun but i’m sick of being one shotted by trebuchet’s -.- i think the one i’ve settled down on is a 20 30 20 0 0 build. Hidden killer is just awesome…i run around daggerdagger popping in and out of stealth heartseeking anything i can get my grubby paws on. i win all 1v1’s so far with it…except when their friends come to save their sorry kitten ’s but other than that i roam around looking for the sorry folks who decided to roam alone. not good to do in a match against me. i suppose i’m the reason for zerging but with that being said i don’t really know why people get mad about it.. easy counter zerg…go cap the other two points they aren’t at…game over. Now to get back on topic i like my build cause it doesn’t leave me quite so squishy, while still being satisfied with lots of crits ranging from about (mostly) 1k to 2k but they happen fast enough, i feel like literally strike after strike of my basic attacks, i do my best to stay behind the enemy or at the very least the side that i can pop into a fire fight, take someone out and then quickly jump back out w/o anyone noticing what happened to their buddy. Strong enough to still take out ppl quickly, mobile enough to get away if two or three of his buddy’s try to intervene. Man i love that Hidden Killer rune. It’s pretty dirty :p just sayin.

Cynrain.6245:

You guys are awesome :] thank you so much…yea i’m not really buying the 17k crits, but i really do enjoy the sig burst burst…lots of fun but i’m sick of being one shotted by trebuchet’s -.- i think the one i’ve settled down on is a 20 30 20 0 0 build. Hidden killer is just awesome…i run around daggerdagger popping in and out of stealth heartseeking anything i can get my grubby paws on. i win all 1v1’s so far with it…except when their friends come to save their sorry kitten ’s but other than that i roam around looking for the sorry folks who decided to roam alone. not good to do in a match against me. i suppose i’m the reason for zerging but with that being said i don’t really know why people get mad about it.. easy counter zerg…go cap the other two points they aren’t at…game over. Now to get back on topic i like my build cause it doesn’t leave me quite so squishy, while still being satisfied with lots of crits ranging from about (mostly) 1k to 2k but they happen fast enough, i feel like literally strike after strike of my basic attacks, i do my best to stay behind the enemy or at the very least the side that i can pop into a fire fight, take someone out and then quickly jump back out w/o anyone noticing what happened to their buddy. Strong enough to still take out ppl quickly, mobile enough to get away if two or three of his buddy’s try to intervene. Man i love that Hidden Killer rune. It’s pretty dirty :p just sayin.

The 17k crits aren’t anything you have to worry about, believe me. just a mathematical anomaly.

Anyhow, if you wouldn’t mind, could you share your build? I can help give you a bit of a more mathematical perspective on how to improve it, if you’d like.

EDIT: I should say- your build in its totality, rather than just the basic overlay.