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Posted by: jihm.2315

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why when i put water fields at the begging of the fight with my staff ele and mender amulet on the point my team ends up being dead 2 – 3 seconds after?

dont say staff ele is not the best thats why i know that but if you wanna play something for fun it means it has to be totally useless?

shall i stop using the water spells completely and menders amulet and go marauder / bersreker?

action combat made mmos better lol

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Posted by: BeepBoopBop.5403

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if you wanna play something for fun it means it has to be totally useless?

In this game, yeah pretty much.

No, going berserker or Marauder will not help on ele lol.

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Posted by: jihm.2315

jihm.2315

if you wanna play something for fun it means it has to be totally useless?

In this game, yeah pretty much.

No, going berserker or Marauder will not help on ele lol.

so why do they even have the water bar on ele ,i put healing power i sacrifice damage to give sustain on the team and they end up dead like i casted nothing.
thats just horrible .

action combat made mmos better lol

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Posted by: JusticeRetroHunter.7684

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why when i put water fields at the begging of the fight with my staff ele and mender amulet on the point my team ends up being dead 2 – 3 seconds after?

No offence, but you sound like your either very inexperienced or just not good yet at playing ele.

I play staff ele exclusively over any other weapon set. You need to use more than just water fields in order to heal others and survive. Staff 3 is a smaller water field that heals very nicely (2-3k heals per tick), and is good for healing yourself passively, or to heal someone else who is contesting a node. Staff 5 doesn’t heal, but rather grants regeneration, and removes a condition per pulse. When traited, it removes 2 conditions per pulse (or 3 i can’t remember), so it’s an extremely powerful condition cleanse. You can also blast these water fields with aftershock for an extra 2k heal.

You also have other heal skills, including “Water overload” and “Wash the Pain Away.” These should be your main source of burst healing your allies.
In addition to that you should be using your shouts to provide protection and minor healing, while using utility skills from Earth(4), pressure and evade from fire(2, 4 and Fire overload), and CC from Air.

dont say staff ele is not the best thats why i know that but if you wanna play something for fun it means it has to be totally useless?

This isn’t true either… it’s very useful and powerful when used correctly. Your inability to play it right is what is holding you back. Not only that, but if you have allies dieing in seconds, it’s because they themselves are also inexperienced at surviving for any meaningful amount of time, which isn’t your fault. Good players can survive long enough for support to come. Good players can come support in time for players to survive. That’s the motto.

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Posted by: jihm.2315

jihm.2315

why when i put water fields at the begging of the fight with my staff ele and mender amulet on the point my team ends up being dead 2 – 3 seconds after?

No offence, but you sound like your either very inexperienced or just not good yet at playing ele.

I play staff ele exclusively over any other weapon set. You need to use more than just water fields in order to heal others and survive. Staff 3 is a smaller water field that heals very nicely (2-3k heals per tick), and is good for healing yourself passively, or to heal someone else who is contesting a node. Staff 5 doesn’t heal, but rather grants regeneration, and removes a condition per pulse. When traited, it removes 2 conditions per pulse (or 3 i can’t remember), so it’s an extremely powerful condition cleanse. You can also blast these water fields with aftershock for an extra 2k heal.

You also have other heal skills, including “Water overload” and “Wash the Pain Away.” These should be your main source of burst healing your allies.
In addition to that you should be using your shouts to provide protection and minor healing, while using utility skills from Earth(4), pressure and evade from fire(2, 4 and Fire overload), and CC from Air.

dont say staff ele is not the best thats why i know that but if you wanna play something for fun it means it has to be totally useless?

This isn’t true either… it’s very useful and powerful when used correctly. Your inability to play it right is what is holding you back. Not only that, but if you have allies dieing in seconds, it’s because they themselves are also inexperienced at surviving for any meaningful amount of time, which isn’t your fault. Good players can survive long enough for support to come. Good players can come support in time for players to survive. That’s the motto.

i know i have to do other stuff also but how is it possible that everyone is dead like i casted nothing ,if anything water spells should be able to help newer players at least a little bit especially when traited to water with healing gear

action combat made mmos better lol

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Posted by: saerni.2584

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Think of it this way. Pretend you can heal for 5k.

A target sitting passively would take 20k damage from several attacks. An experienced player (as the target) can mitigate this damage to 5k. Your heal can fully sustain that player. Then he takes another 20k spike and mitigates it to 5k, your heals are on cooldown but he is now around 75%. He downs an enemy player and you win the fight.

A less experienced player tries and mitigates only 5k, taking 15k damage. Your healing gives him back 5k and leaves him at under 50% hp. He takes another 15k while trying to run away and gets downed. You can’t save him and they turn full focus on you.

The difference is that even though you healed him a lot there are some people you can’t save.

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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

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if you wanna play something for fun it means it has to be totally useless?

In this game, yeah pretty much.

No, going berserker or Marauder will not help on ele lol.

so why do they even have the water bar on ele ,i put healing power i sacrifice damage to give sustain on the team and they end up dead like i casted nothing.
thats just horrible .

I find it easier if you pretend that your team mates are useless despite how much support you could potentially bring.

My Staff Ele is Fire/Air/temp and nuking a point quickly is much more effective than healing your team in a prolonged fight. It’s also alot more fun considering the match becomes a survival contest.

Mind you, I don’t take this game seriously anymore.

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
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Posted by: Abelisk.4527

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You CAN play fun builds and have success.

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Posted by: Wargameur.6950

Wargameur.6950

you can blast in a waterfield using earth skill giving an extra heal output. Start with using eruption then switch to water and put the field.

That’s from a thief main :p That’s pretty much my advanced level of playing ele ^^

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Posted by: Chasind.3128

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Staff ele is a death sentence unless you’re in the backline of a 50+ man zerg