Guild Wars 2

i was on youtube and i saw this

Anet please, come back to that days . Improve all features this game need to be great like gw1

… and this is what many of us came back for. But what we have is GW2 … not GW 2. Sad sad sad … but more work less gaming, I guess; not like the world is falling apart.

what gw1 players expected when we passed to gw2..

omg my old game days

Shukran.4851:

what gw1 players expected when we passed to gw2..

omg my old game days

You will never have this on this game becouse there is no monk or a support class, instead of having a game with team play they created a selfish game.

ps no guardian shout support is not support.
ps2 pressing F to ress an ally doesnt mean teamplay either lol

Juan Ignacio.8903:

You will never have this on this game becouse there is no monk or a support class, instead of having a game with team play they created a selfish game.

ps no guardian shout support is not support.
ps2 pressing F to ress an ally doesnt mean teamplay either lol

you are right, this game need a real support class and more team play

Juan Ignacio.8903:

You will never have this on this game becouse there is no monk or a support class, instead of having a game with team play they created a selfish game.

ps no guardian shout support is not support.
ps2 pressing F to ress an ally doesnt mean teamplay either lol

yeah.

it is sad because when dota 2 was created, dota players just wanted a dota full HD. they didnt need something different. nd they had their dota1 full HD. free to play atm!! beta with tons of keys. and they are making still money.
the same way, what gw1 players wanted wasn’t a new mechanic game, but ìjust a gw1 full HD. or at least it is what i think gw1 players just desired.

in the last SOTG they said we dont want to have a monk becouse we dont want a class that is needed to win.. i mean really? who doesnt use ellys now days lol.

any game with a bit of team play just a little bit the healer says " im getting attack by this dude halp" then the team is like wtf and switch targets. Now in this game the definition of help is like this: i got 2 on my point help … 2 go help him the guy goes down they use res signet now is 3v2 and the 3 win.. all in a matter of i dont know 10seconds. Moving from A to point B is also consider teamplay in this game lol

Metaphora.6071:

i was on youtube and i saw this

Anet please, come back to that days . Improve all features this game need to be great like gw1

:’( …..miss those days so much…

assuming by all the messages in Spvp forums everyone wants gw1 features… so there is a lot of players playing gw1 and the competitive scene is still alive? or is everyone just talking kitten and #nostalgia

Sanis.1096:

assuming by all the messages in Spvp forums everyone wants gw1 features… so there is a lot of players playing gw1 and the competitive scene is still alive? or is everyone just talking kitten and #nostalgia

Apparently GW1 PvP is more active than sPvP atm.

Larynx.2453:

Apparently GW1 PvP is more active than sPvP atm.

Sure it is, it’s 10 times better even after 7 years..

Archaon.6245:

Larynx.2453:

Apparently GW1 PvP is more active than sPvP atm.

Sure it is, it’s 10 times better even after 7 years..

It’s that that GW2 revived interest in the Guild Wars franchise, but since GW2 was so kitten people went back to GW1.

I’m just parroting what I’ve heard, I don’t know how well GW1 is doing. When I played it last like 12 months ago it was active enough to play.

You are aware that ANet themselves funded their tournaments right? GW1 PvP was great, but it was no eSport.

Skyro.3108:

You are aware that ANet themselves funded their tournaments right? GW1 PvP was great, but it was no eSport.

so gw1 pvp was so kitten that only anet would fund tournaments? well… why the hell ppl want this to be like gw1 then o.O

More ppl in GW1 pvp than on GW2 atm

Gj

Sanis.1096:

Skyro.3108:

You are aware that ANet themselves funded their tournaments right? GW1 PvP was great, but it was no eSport.

so gw1 pvp was so kitten that only anet would fund tournaments? well… why the hell ppl want this to be like gw1 then o.O

WoW doesn’t even have tournaments. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t have fun PvP. GW1 wasn’t an eSport, neither is something like Tribes. It doesn’t mean either of them are bad games.

If eSport success is how we judge how good a game is, there’s about 3 or 4 games worth playing in the world atm.

Juan Ignacio.8903:

You will never have this on this game becouse there is no monk or a support class, instead of having a game with team play they created a selfish game.

ps no guardian shout support is not support.
ps2 pressing F to ress an ally doesnt mean teamplay either lol

You don’t need a dedicated healer to make team gameplay. Having support is enough and there are many professions that can be build for support. Whether they are up to par yet that is another story.

Penguin.5197:

Juan Ignacio.8903:

You will never have this on this game becouse there is no monk or a support class, instead of having a game with team play they created a selfish game.

ps no guardian shout support is not support.
ps2 pressing F to ress an ally doesnt mean teamplay either lol

You don’t need a dedicated healer to make team gameplay. Having support is enough and there are many professions that can be build for support. Whether they are up to par yet that is another story.

I think the issue is that there’s no need for heavy support or a lot of team synergy, so people don’t do it. It’s not that it isn’t there, it’s just not worth the effort.

Larynx.2453:

Sanis.1096:

Skyro.3108:

You are aware that ANet themselves funded their tournaments right? GW1 PvP was great, but it was no eSport.

so gw1 pvp was so kitten that only anet would fund tournaments? well… why the hell ppl want this to be like gw1 then o.O

WoW doesn’t even have tournaments. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t have fun PvP. GW1 wasn’t an eSport, neither is something like Tribes. It doesn’t mean either of them are bad games.

If eSport success is how we judge how good a game is, there’s about 3 or 4 games worth playing in the world atm.

But WoW has tournaments?

Sanis.1096:

Larynx.2453:

Sanis.1096:

Skyro.3108:

You are aware that ANet themselves funded their tournaments right? GW1 PvP was great, but it was no eSport.

so gw1 pvp was so kitten that only anet would fund tournaments? well… why the hell ppl want this to be like gw1 then o.O

WoW doesn’t even have tournaments. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t have fun PvP. GW1 wasn’t an eSport, neither is something like Tribes. It doesn’t mean either of them are bad games.

If eSport success is how we judge how good a game is, there’s about 3 or 4 games worth playing in the world atm.

But WoW has tournaments?

The only tournaments WoW ever has are player run and incredibly clunky since there’s no infrastructure to support it or any sort of observers.

Larynx.2453:

Sanis.1096:

Larynx.2453:

Sanis.1096:

Skyro.3108:

You are aware that ANet themselves funded their tournaments right? GW1 PvP was great, but it was no eSport.

so gw1 pvp was so kitten that only anet would fund tournaments? well… why the hell ppl want this to be like gw1 then o.O

WoW doesn’t even have tournaments. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t have fun PvP. GW1 wasn’t an eSport, neither is something like Tribes. It doesn’t mean either of them are bad games.

If eSport success is how we judge how good a game is, there’s about 3 or 4 games worth playing in the world atm.

But WoW has tournaments?

The only tournaments WoW ever has are player run and incredibly clunky since there’s no infrastructure to support it or any sort of observers.

no? there is still BWC

Sanis.1096:

Larynx.2453:

Sanis.1096:

Larynx.2453:

Sanis.1096:

Skyro.3108:

You are aware that ANet themselves funded their tournaments right? GW1 PvP was great, but it was no eSport.

so gw1 pvp was so kitten that only anet would fund tournaments? well… why the hell ppl want this to be like gw1 then o.O

WoW doesn’t even have tournaments. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t have fun PvP. GW1 wasn’t an eSport, neither is something like Tribes. It doesn’t mean either of them are bad games.

If eSport success is how we judge how good a game is, there’s about 3 or 4 games worth playing in the world atm.

But WoW has tournaments?

The only tournaments WoW ever has are player run and incredibly clunky since there’s no infrastructure to support it or any sort of observers.

no? there is still BWC

http://www.ohiobwc.com/browsers.aspx?ReturnURL=/default.aspx ?

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

edit: http://us.battle.net/bwc/en/ this?

That’s sponsored by Blizzard.

If you don’t recall,

so gw1 pvp was so kitten that only anet would fund tournaments? well… why the hell ppl want this to be like gw1 then o.O

The WoW part is also a complete joke of a tournament.

yea i know it’s sponsored by blizzard, but you said “The only tournaments WoW ever has are player run and incredibly clunky since there’s no infrastructure to support it or any sort of observers.”

Sanis.1096:

yea i know it’s sponsored by blizzard, but you said “The only tournaments WoW ever has are player run and incredibly clunky since there’s no infrastructure to support it or any sort of observers.”

Hoho, you have me now on semantics.

in the first video, 27.50 , gw1 proplayer talks about why they play gw1.
i hope gw2 can do the same.

Larynx.2453:

Sanis.1096:

Skyro.3108:

You are aware that ANet themselves funded their tournaments right? GW1 PvP was great, but it was no eSport.

so gw1 pvp was so kitten that only anet would fund tournaments? well… why the hell ppl want this to be like gw1 then o.O

WoW doesn’t even have tournaments. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t have fun PvP. GW1 wasn’t an eSport, neither is something like Tribes. It doesn’t mean either of them are bad games.

If eSport success is how we judge how good a game is, there’s about 3 or 4 games worth playing in the world atm.

The OP was implying GW1 had an eSport/tournament scene by showing videos from ANet’s self-funded world championships, which simply was not the case which I pointed out. Like I said GW1 PvP was fun, but it was never some popular, bustling PvP community. It was a fairly niche game overall. Still a much bigger PvP population than GW2 though of course (although GW2’s PvE population is much larger than GW1’s so from ANet’s perspective they’re probably pretty happy).

It really doesn’t matter who funds the tournaments as long as there’s an incentive and infrastructure to have cash tournaments. Self funding might lead to third party funding/sponsorship so that the esport hype for any game can be sustained. I never had the chance to play GW1, but the pvp looks awesome. Anet should have just built on the pvp from GW1 and incorporated the playstyle of GW2 instead of trying to reinvent their entire pvp system.

The removal of the monk class seemed to be a detriment to the game. I know they took a gamble by removing the trinity, but it seems like they alienated an entire group of players who solely want to support their team rather than play for themselves (which is what GW2 makes you do). It looks more and more like this game was designed by former warriors and rogues. I don’t think the monk class should be game breaking, but it could really add a lot of depth to team’s composition (e.g. not having a monk on your team would require you to use more defensive builds). I played a paladin in wow and I liked that I at least had options for my arena team to build around. GW2 pvp is a love/hate thing for me right now because I love how the game plays, but I hate being limited to only conquest. More game modes that aren’t esport oriented would draw in more pve players, especially those that just want to pass some time without committing to teams, pvp guilds, etc.

These are painful to watch. The animations are so bad you can’t tell what anybody is doing and 8v8 is too many people to keep track of what is going on.

Doesn’t seem like it was all that popular either from the amount of views on this and other GvG youtube vids.

Whats up with them only fighting in like one area of the map, too?

Conquest >>>> this b/c you can actually tell what is going on and feel the tide of the match (via a very noticeable score – even my wife knows when I’m winning or losing a match). GW2 will be way better given time and tools which are in the pipe according to the devs

Kavia.8249:

The animations are so bad you can’t tell what anybody is doing and 8v8 is too many people to keep track of what is going on.

Yes…for sure if you suck it’s really hard to play gw1 pvp..