Guild Wars 2

id love to know why gw2 doesnt have a system like world of war craft were you can duel somone to see who is better?

how did you not see the post about this a few posts down..

this has so many topics already..

and the answer is it’s not balanced for 1v1 yet, it’s a slow progression of things needed to be in place before other things can be added..

wow has had years to add stuff / balance
if gw2 had the same age..

The answer is pvp isn’t complete, nor a priority.

firebreathz is incorrect; the game is not intended to be balanced for 1v1. There’s no “yet” about it. They’re obviously not waiting for something which they have no intention of ever doing to implement dueling. That’s logically inconsistent with their stated intention to get around to adding dueling… eventually.

i know true 1v1 balancing will never happen, and they are not focusing on that.. what i ment was soon as they get the professions to how they were intended to be.. as there are alot of bug fixes still going on to professions/skills then maybe they will have time in the schedule..

can i ask when you state “the game is not intended to be balanced for 1v1” is there any arenanet post that says this or just from the player base?

because i dont see why it is “not intended” in the long run

sure they are well off balance now, but i dont think it would take much to bring professions more in line for 1v1.. given enough time

no team-oriented game is ever balanced for 1v1, don’t need a dev post for that.

the more you balance for 1v1, the more you homogenize the professions. the devs take tools from 1 class & give them to a number of classes so that 1v1s can be considered fair without hard countering. this damages the integrity of team combat & makes team composition far less important.

if you are looking for properly balanced duels, you are looking for street fighter ( which is amazing & fully designed around 1v1 so no more need to complain ).

duels are useful for figuring out rotations, cooldowns & counters, but less useful as a litmus test for balance. if you want to win duels, you spec hybrid, period. that cuts out a HUGE selection of viable team builds.

I don’t care for spvp 1v1(though if they do it all the better), I care for random dueling in cities, towns and zones. I want to duel my friend for fun on occasion. I want to duel that random person I see in LA who has cool armor. Make it happen anet!

1. There are a ton of threads about the same topic allrdy
2. Why need a duelling system in a game based on team-structures?

why would you not want dueling?

I know this game is based on team structures
but i want to fight my own battles not just rely on my team

other games based on team structures have dueling systems.. so why would that not work here?

Easy: It’s not balanced enough and I doubt it will ever be. To bring up this dueling system you need big restrictions (utilities,runes) or weekly/daily changes (w/e) to avoid the “one build wonder”.

I think it should be in place for less serious fights like between friends/foes

more like “fancy a duel while we wait for (insert name here) to come bk”

i know it’s not balanced and one build wonders are rampant atm but if only for abit of fun.. whats the harm?

No harm here… But a-net has actually other problems to do than additional fancy-non-competitive-mode.
For waiting on a match just enter hotjoin and you will be fine.

because anet knew they could get their GW1 PvP fans to purchase the game based on nostalgia alone… so they didn’t bother developing any number of features for it at launch… and based on the rate of progress, it wasn’t a mistake — their business model was just to rip off the people who wanted PvP.

Arena-net has stated that a dueling system is in the works… They wanted to release the long awaited game before the fans had a riot so they left out several features, not just in PvP, like guildhalls for example which they have stated are coming as well, along with dueling and personal house instances for each player not unlike hall of monuments.

I really dont understand the “this game isnt balanced around 1v1”. Do you not get that 1v1 makes you better overall, an easy way to learn class X mechanics and make you better prepared for team fights? In order to succeed in teamplay (spvp), individual skills are more important than being carried by the group – to put it in one way.

firebreathz.7692:

can i ask when you state “the game is not intended to be balanced for 1v1” is there any arenanet post that says this or just from the player base?

They’ve said about a thousand times that the game is balanced for 5v5 conquest.

Virgil Kemp.7056:

firebreathz.7692:

can i ask when you state “the game is not intended to be balanced for 1v1” is there any arenanet post that says this or just from the player base?

They’ve said about a thousand times that the game is balanced for 5v5 conquest.

could anyone be so kind as to link this info if it’s been said “a thousand times” cus i cant find an official arenanet post about it.. and I would love to read their exact stance on balancing

WoW isnt balanced around 1v1 either, yet they have duels and you always see people brawling outside orgrimmar or stormwind, people KNOW its not balanced, but they want to duel their friends, practice new builds… in a lot of situations in spvp and wvwvw you end up in 1v1 fights.

Not having duels only makes joining into some spvp maps annoying be cause people are dueling and they DONT want to be bothered. I like dueling but I hate having to join SPVP maps for it, and it sucks that I cant fight my friends with my REAL armor in pve.

Virgil Kemp.7056:

firebreathz.7692:

can i ask when you state “the game is not intended to be balanced for 1v1” is there any arenanet post that says this or just from the player base?

They’ve said about a thousand times that the game is balanced for 5v5 conquest.

It’s also, incredibly obvious. Ive dueled 100’s of times in empty hotjoins, and certain class matchs-ups are blatantly 1 sided.
I’d like dueling, but not an official ranked 1vs1.

I watched/listened to hours of developer interviews waiting for the game to be released, and it was made very clear very many times that the game would be balanced around 5v5, and 5v5 would be its competitive play.

I wasnt talking about ranked 1v1 lol.. “certain class matchs-ups are blatantly 1 sided.” and that will never change..

but to help you learn how to counter said build/class a friendly duel would do wonders..

without having to take a server up..

I had a training day with 3 eles in hotjoin, after that I was far better at seeing there burst and in general how to counter..

I ment just being able to click on a nameplate and request a duel for fun..

even tho its not balance for 1v1 in anyway each class/build will have an opponent that they can win with ease, and another they get get rolf stomped by, so in that sense it kinda balances out.. sort of.. but dont quote me on that one :P

Edit: @Virgil I keep hearing it but any search I input to try find said words on balance i cannot find.. would like too see my self, so i know their stance on the matter and all the intricate details.. not just vague they only balance for 5v5 and 1v1 balance was never intended and will never happen..

as they adjust skills, and make changes which they are doing right now will in the end result in better balance across the board witch was more how i saw it

faeral.7120:

no team-oriented game is ever balanced for 1v1

Which is why the non-fps ones suck.
“Hurrr, l2roll the right class noob!”
Yay, let’s play who can get carried! Who can social network better! Such a fail balancing method.

Virgil Kemp.7056:

The answer is pvp isn’t complete, nor a priority.

firebreathz is incorrect; the game is not intended to be balanced for 1v1. There’s no “yet” about it. They’re obviously not waiting for something which they have no intention of ever doing to implement dueling. That’s logically inconsistent with their stated intention to get around to adding dueling… eventually.

They haven’t exactly been faithful about their promises on pvp so he has at least some hope.

exactly, I always lost against thieves but thanks to all the 1v1 fights I had in spvp maps and wvwvw I learned how to play against them

dueling helps people learn, and allows friends to have fun… why the game didnt include dueling boggles me

it should be included for no other reason that people want it, and do it anyway – It should just be made easier for them and put somewhere were it doesn’t interfere with regular spvp and regular spvp doesn’t interfere with it.

Borderlands/bl2 are great examples of a good, fun dueling system – and class balance is laughable in that game, doesn’t mean everyone flocks to one class.

The fact of the matter is if you have more than 1 game mode, e.g. point capture and duels or capture the flag etc, you can’t balance for both, there will always be classes better at one or the other. Does this mean you’re happy in having 1 pvp mode forever? i’m not, i’m already tiring of it, i know spectators will if they ever genuinely hope to have an e-sports scene.

I don’t see why they don’t even have casual duels?
Like between two people in environment. I guess it’s because we don’t have down time with the new LFG tool they’ve put into the game. No more time to kill while looking for a dungeon group…. oh wait.

I don’t care if its balanced or not, I still want to be able to fight someone else without getting lolheartseekered by 4 thieves at once.

At worst, I get lolheartseekered by only one thief at once.

MasterGeese.4756:

I don’t care if its balanced or not, I still want to be able to fight someone else without getting lolheartseekered by 4 thieves at once.

At worst, I get lolheartseekered by only one thief at once.

i lol’d

itsbeendone.8057:

id love to know why gw2 doesnt have a system like world of war craft were you can duel somone to see who is better?

So when you have duel between excavators and airplanes, what is the goal, dig up more land, or carry more people? Or who can bake bread quickly.

Your question is answered so many times, just read forum. Or maybe even better, play game and learn something b4 you post.

Wooyadeen.6491:

itsbeendone.8057:

id love to know why gw2 doesnt have a system like world of war craft were you can duel somone to see who is better?

So when you have duel between excavators and airplanes, what is the goal, dig up more land, or carry more people? Or who can bake bread quickly.

Your question is answered so many times, just read forum. Or maybe even better, play game and learn something b4 you post.

yes duels don’t actually see who is better. You’d have to be both playing the same class, same build and do a best of 10 to determine that. But that doesn’t mean duels are useless and should never be implemented.

Even right now, i doubt anyone would argue the capture the points game mode is balanced between all classes, but we still have it.