Guild Wars 2

how many people does arenanet estimate will purchase gems or expansions because of the PvP content?

right, im betting not many. most people who play pvp right now seem to main pve and just sort of dabble. even including those, the community is small.

so we have a large, well written engine which includes observer mode and some form of rating / match making… earning very little revenue.

what it needs to generate revenue is new game play design. this means new weapon skills, utility skills, and traits – with some new animations but likely not many. new maps.

how much more development time (money) would it take to go from what we have, to something good? would that see returns in increased sales of gems / expansions?

thoughts? whats stopping anet from making a ‘mod’ of their game inorder to make money?

so far i see some potential arguments against:

we might spend all that money and get it wrong again. fair point, but having some fresh vision could help.

we want pvp to be similar to pve so pve players will watch pvp tournaments, to which i counter: you didnt make it right for that. if you want that, design pvp then alter pve to have more similarity. the current mess of mechanics cant make fun pvp and your pve content is very easy for an organized group, i cant take a argument about pve balance seriously.

weve fixed the problems with pvp now we just need advertising to draw players back. uhm. no, no youve still not fixed pvp, it still suffers from a lot of issues i shant go into here.

we have a dedicated if small pvp community, what about them? well the small bit means you dont make money off them, so … thats what about them. you HAD a large and dedicated community you already alienated, not that two wrongs make a right.

any other arguments against moding out gw2 pvp?

Bad start,even worse continuity, guess what about the end…
Slow & (steady) just didn’t work at all.
Anyways => no pvp expansion no matter whakittens not casual…

ryston.7640:

so we have a large, well written engine which includes observer mode and some form of rating / match making… earning very little revenue.

nc soft says, “does not matter. made monies from RNG boxes. wheeeeee”

Anet can’t make meaningful changes, nonetheless changes in a timely manner.
Dead game is dead.
/endthread

So many, unfulfilled promises,
Too small steps, but the road is too long,
PvP died somewhere around november 2012.

Dead game is dead!

shimzor.6057:

So many, unfulfilled promises,
Too small steps, but the road is too long,
PvP died somewhere around november 2012.

Dead game is dead!

its okay.
PvE will thrive with ncsoft RNG boxes!

#believeinexpansion

I hope they will add PvP for everyone not just 8 teams and 4 shoutcasters. Because in the past months the whole game was built only around them.

Think about it. Tournaments with same guys every week, observer mode where only the invited few can watch the match and then twitch it, and now the authorized shoutcaster program. Rather than having in-game tournaments and an open observer mode for the top rated tournament battles, we are watching player made skirmishes through a non-in-game engine.

Awesome and community friendly for sure.

SPVP is a bad investment, it requires a complete redesign, with some core thinks that need to be changed (for example, AOE is out of control, they know is out of control and yet they did nothing, because AOE is a core design of gw2 spvp, you need AOE, it’s bad, but what u gonna do, redesign a lot of weapon skills ?)
So they can pour all the money there, make a pvp expansion with a lot of redesign and maybe get some success (MAYBE), or they can make a pve expansion with more boxes and win real money.

Right now they are doing the right thing, generate as much hype as they can for the spvp side, keep telling everyone that their working about the issues (which is true), try to make some money with arenas and avoid talking about any ETA’s at all, because if u don’t say when, you are never lying. For example, they can say that we will have warrior balanced, when it’s ready, and because there is no ETA, it will happen sometime between now and the end of the universe (nothing guarantes that you will live long enough to see it, but it will happen, if not in this universe in some other ).

garethh.3518:

Anet can’t make meaningful changes, nonetheless changes in a timely manner.
Dead game is dead.
/endthread

^^^

If the game is indeed dead, what are you doing on the forums?

GG constructive feedback.

shimzor.6057:

So many, unfulfilled promises,
Too small steps, but the road is too long,
PvP died somewhere around november 2012.

Dead game is dead!

True words. -RIP-

Rallad.3802:

If the game is indeed dead, what are you doing on the forums?

GG constructive feedback.

+1

I always love people who complain, claim the PvP is dead and then come to the PvP forums to tell us. If it were truly dead you wouldnt need to come here to claim it to be so. Instead I will continue playing nightly with my team and having a good time.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Rallad.3802:

If the game is indeed dead, what are you doing on the forums?

GG constructive feedback.

+1

I always love people who complain, claim the PvP is dead and then come to the PvP forums to tell us. If it were truly dead you wouldnt need to come here to claim it to be so. Instead I will continue playing nightly with my team and having a good time.

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

will pvp players buy expansion ? maybe if they want more skills, weapons, classes, races, weapon skins…so maybe

they will probably sell a lot, game is fun if u do pve/wvw for a while it worths the 50$ … but pvp yea its garbage if u buy it you are a masochist or you havent played many mmos.

well i dont doubt the expansion will sell.

i doubt if anyone will buy it because they want to stay competitive / current with this pvp.

ncsoft is missing out on a revenue opportunity by releasing an mmo without a real pvp mode.