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so pet doing 9k dmg plus maul doing 8k….nice buffing and creating new power creep…GG AT BALANCING STUFF!!

ranger can do 20k dmg in 1 sec..thank you.

Well at least we can finally evade/block the pet taunt.

Pre-patch there were builds out there that would stack every buff imaginable on their pet to do massive damage. Someone made a video where they were one-shotting people with the drake in WvW.

It might not be the patch. Are you sure you weren’t fighting one of these builds?

Ranger will finally be in Meta.

Yes, we can might stack now.

Its not the might stack,

its the quickness. They have TOO MUCH uptime/access to quickness with the recent We heal as one buff….

Everything else is fine but that boon is ridiculous

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

Pre-patch there were builds out there that would stack every buff imaginable on their pet to do massive damage. Someone made a video where they were one-shotting people with the drake in WvW.

It might not be the patch. Are you sure you weren’t fighting one of these builds?

I dont know but he oneshotted me 4 times in pvp match with my aegis on. So stupid.

So when they are gonna buff guardians dmg to do 10k mightyblows and ww in pvp? it’s about time to do that to be on pair with other classes.

And the taunt is bugged as hell too… I’ve just faced a ranger, and the taunt made my camera flicker/shake like mad… It was completely unplayable. I’m not going into another arena until they fix that ****

I don’t know what they did.. but that is totally unfair

Ragnarox.9601:

So when they are gonna buff guardians dmg to do 10k mightyblows and ww in pvp? it’s about time to do that to be on pair with other classes.

Guardians were bursting like that for quite a long time with Meditation build.

So, it’s nice to burst someone, but getting bursted is bad?

If you’re talking about Guardian going to be on pair with other classes, then surely you’re asking for some nice nerfs then.

d/d ele is still better.

you probably ate some gimmicky signet spike or something. ranger has maybe a bit to much quickness with whao (but you loose condi removal to get this), but other then that, nothing really changed about the ranger.

SkiTz.4590:

Its not the might stack,

its the quickness. They have TOO MUCH uptime/access to quickness with the recent We heal as one buff….

Everything else is fine but that boon is ridiculous

That new boon stacking build has glaring weaknesses that would not make it into any serious team:

1. Very minimal condition clear. (2 at max, all on long CD)

2. Poison cripples the survivability completely because regen gutted, HaO gutted.

3. One chill will render this build COMPLETELY useless. All synergy dies. Add that to first point and you see a huge problem in this build.

4. You’re leaving yourself in danger since most of the time your heal will be on CD because you waste it on boons.

5. Any boon removal / strips/ corruption will instantly kill this build. For the corruption one, you don’t even have tools to remove the converted conditions.

6. No slot to take damage immunity like Stone Signet -> vulnerable to burst.

People should stop looking everything from surface and irrationally shout out OP this OP that. You’re using the most ideal situation against bad players who let you able to set up.

Ragnarox.9601:

so pet doing 9k dmg plus maul doing 8k….nice buffing and creating new power creep…GG AT BALANCING STUFF!!

ranger can do 20k dmg in 1 sec..thank you.

lol this is old news. If you played a power builds pre patch you could land 10-15k mauls(which is is just SoH/MoC maul) or a 10k rapid fire its really not that hard. Canines have been hitting 5-9k for a long time. Somewhere I have a screen shot of my fernhound downing a thief from full with sickem for 11k.

The only things they changed damage wise is they allowed us to copy boons to and fro pets. It just means we can actually use the might we stack(most of might stacking goes to pets). The damage potential was always there, just stacking might was a problem.

People that are complaining about the boon stacking don’t understand at all, go play some and wait till you encounter anyone with boon rip or corruption. You literally implode.

To all those people who do nothing but whine.

Been here for a while, patch has nothing to do with it.

Also this requires, SiC em, Signet of the wild which leaves you with 1 stun breaker!
Hence the reason you don’t see this in ESLS and AGs.

Here’s a piece advice. Get good and stop whining.

StickerHappy.8052:

To all those people who do nothing but whine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOY-LWU0Clc

Been here for a while, patch has nothing to do with it.

Also this requires, SiC em, Signet of the wild which leaves you with 1 stun breaker!
Hence the reason you don’t see this in ESLS and AGs.

Here’s a piece advice. Get good and stop whining.

Wow ho, loving the 18k tail swap <3

It’s such a gimmick build with so many flaws that I can make a full essay about it, but I like it <3.

That’s what I meant by pet master!

They also can stack protection crazy. Proof none of this is ever tested.

Instant 25 stacks of might, 18 seconds of quickness and Go for the Eyes is bugged for perma blind.

Yeah, fix please.

Xillllix.3485:

They also can stack protection crazy. Proof none of this is ever tested.

Rangers can only stack protection and Might to themselves only lol.. (by wasting heal and bringing an worthless utility skill constantly)

Plus Ele stacking GROUP protection is ok, while ranger doesn’t?
Plus Ele stacking GROUP 25 mights ok, while ranger doesn’t?
Plus 5 Guardians can keep the whole group 100% quickness , which is ok, while ranger getting long quickness by sacrificing their stunbreak, condition removal, 36 CD not ok?

Pfft, other classes are so used to look down on ranger, that if ranger can do anything they can do, they’d cry out OP OP OP OP!!!!!!

Ragnarox.9601:

so pet doing 9k dmg plus maul doing 8k….nice buffing and creating new power creep…GG AT BALANCING STUFF!!

ranger can do 20k dmg in 1 sec..thank you.

:) You got hit by a Drake Chomp, who had 25 stacks of might and Momemt of Clarity active. Yep, that hits hard. Be glad it wasn’t the tail swipe. It would have been worse. You have to evade after being stunned or dazed by a Ranger.

Great. Looks like I will switch from ele to ranger and continue farming tears.

Please buff ranger. Ranger underpowered, make perma quickness baseline pls

Archon.6480:

:) You got hit by a Drake Chomp, who had 25 stacks of might and Momemt of Clarity active. Yep, that hits hard. Be glad it wasn’t the tail swipe. It would have been worse. You have to evade after being stunned or dazed by a Ranger.

Exactly this. The Tail Swipe would’ve been 12-15K.

This is how a beastmaster ranger SHOULD have worked all along. Carefully calculating the invisible cooldowns of your pet skills so you know when the pet is ready, then hitting the enemy with a control skill before double bursting the enemy down with a joint attack with the pet.

There is definitely skill involved. The pet should hit hard when built for it.

Exciton.8942:

Great. Looks like I will switch from ele to ranger and continue farming tears.

Time to dump eles and jump on the ranger hype train boys!

Telling that pet attack for 9k+ is normal is just proof how bad you are. Pets need to be brought down to spirit weapon and turet level. If they want to do awesome dmg then cure is to make their hp glas canon of 10k. Simple as that.

Ragnarox.9601:

Telling that pet attack for 9k+ is normal is just proof how bad you are. Pets need to be brought down to spirit weapon and turet level. If they want to do awesome dmg then cure is to make their hp glas canon of 10k. Simple as that.

It could be bugged, but most likely an indirect buff because ArenaNet forgot Nature Magic existed.

15+ seconds of quickness is stupidly powerful for the ranger AND pet.

Ragnarox.9601:

so pet doing 9k dmg plus maul doing 8k….nice buffing and creating new power creep…GG AT BALANCING STUFF!!

ranger can do 20k dmg in 1 sec..thank you.

We have no idea what conditions were on you, what buffs the rangers had from other players (ever heard of a bunker guardian?) . In addition power rangers are squishy.

For nearly 5 months rangers were sub-par. The moment they are buffed people like you run to the forums and QQ, call nerf in less than a day. Can we at least see what happens in a week or 2. I mean honestly! the ele was meta for months.

never in 1 sec! -.- and 8k? maybe you had 20 vulnerability , and he +10 might stack.

If you are a ranger and not abusing the instant 25 stacks of might and 15+ seconds of quickness you are officially a terrible ranger.

Nova Stiker.8396:

If you are a ranger and not abusing the instant 25 stacks of might and 15+ seconds of quickness you are officially a terrible ranger.

Or a ranger who doesn’t want to dedicate their entire build to a gimmick set up that leaves you with almost no condition cleanses and puts your stunbreak, pet swap, and heal on cooldown.

A necromancer casts corrupt boon and you die instantly. You simply don’t have anywhere near the condi clear to save yourself. One skill will shut down the entire build every time.

Ehecatl.9172:

Nova Stiker.8396:

If you are a ranger and not abusing the instant 25 stacks of might and 15+ seconds of quickness you are officially a terrible ranger.

Or a ranger who doesn’t want to dedicate their entire build to a gimmick set up that leaves you with almost no condition cleanses and puts your stunbreak, pet swap, and heal on cooldown.

A necromancer casts corrupt boon and you die instantly. You simply don’t have anywhere near the condi clear to save yourself. One skill will shut down the entire build every time.

Lyssa runes synergize with the build incredibly well, especially if you can then double those boons. Maybe damage runes are better for what you are trying to do, but it seems like it would fit here.

Ragnarox.9601:

Telling that pet attack for 9k+ is normal is just proof how bad you are. Pets need to be brought down to spirit weapon and turet level. If they want to do awesome dmg then cure is to make their hp glas canon of 10k. Simple as that.

Before you embarrass yourself more..

This is easily achievable without might.

Remorseless is 25%
MoC is 50%
100% Crit on Opening Strike
Full Beastmastery 300 points to pets stats

Dog is now at 2200 power, 1800 precision, 350 ferocity.

Easy 9k on squishies.

Jeez.. I wish people learned to play other classes’ mechanics.. before claiming stuff they “know”

This is even possible pre patch

On a positive note, at least the ranger NPC is back! You can take all of your frustrations out on him

BlackBeard.2873:

Lyssa runes synergize with the build incredibly well, especially if you can then double those boons. Maybe damage runes are better for what you are trying to do, but it seems like it would fit here.

Perhaps, but having your only reliable condi clear be on a 45 second cooldown is still pretty bad for condi management.

And then you end up needing to use your elite skill to survive any level of condi burst while having your heal, pet swap, and stunbreak on cooldown. Options are getting pretty slim defensively.

abc.5790:

Please buff ranger. Ranger underpowered, make perma quickness baseline pls

Buff owl. Owl underpowered, make 3000 toughness and 5000 vitality baseline pls.

StickerHappy.8052:

Ragnarox.9601:

Telling that pet attack for 9k+ is normal is just proof how bad you are. Pets need to be brought down to spirit weapon and turet level. If they want to do awesome dmg then cure is to make their hp glas canon of 10k. Simple as that.

Before you embarrass yourself more..

This is easily achievable without might.

Remorseless is 25%
MoC is 50%
100% Crit on Opening Strike
Full Beastmastery 300 points to pets stats

Dog is now at 2200 power, 1800 precision, 350 ferocity.

Easy 9k on squishies.

Jeez.. I wish people learned to play other classes’ mechanics.. before claiming stuff they “know”

This is even possible pre patch

This. Bet you he would also tell you that 20k mauls are impossible too. Which are also possible pre patch. People seriously don’t understand our burst potential. Ranger has tones of modifiers(SoH/MoC, SoW, Remorseless + crit damage) you can get as high as an 800% damage increase, for single hits. It isnt an issue tho as its very telegraphed that your doing this and easy to dodge.

Gambino.2109:

I don’t know what they did.. but that is totally unfair

This pretty much sums up this thread lol.

If you people would take the time to learn the class you wouldn’t be scared of the big bad rangers coming to get you.

your average mesmer and necro or any condition application will still eat this ranger for breakfast even so

thanks for wasting your heal and condi management tools for those boons

Oslaf Beinir.5842:

your average mesmer and necro or any condition application will still eat this ranger for breakfast even so

thanks for wasting your heal and condi management tools for those boons

Pretty much the definition of risk vs reward

The new heal as one is a pretty clear choice and IMO makes the shout spec alot more fun. Its a pretty big decision to make mid fight (do I use my heal to prep for offense or do I save it for defense). I like it. And thats after playing shouts for 3 years now.

Shadelang.3012:

The new heal as one is a pretty clear choice and IMO makes the shout spec alot more fun. Its a pretty big decision to make mid fight (do I use my heal to prep for offense or do I save it for defense). I like it. And thats after playing shouts for 3 years now.

Absolutely agree. So many of the other professions are just getting more and more passive “save their butt” traits added on and people are actually complaining because a ranger gets a damage boost after sacrificing a stun break and their heal….

It’s obviously too much damage, too broken, fix it ASAP. How could this even make it into the live patch? Anet dropping the ball again.

kolompi.1287:

It’s obviously too much damage, too broken, fix it ASAP. How could this even make it into the live patch? Anet dropping the ball again.

100% diasgree!

kolompi.1287:

It’s obviously too much damage, too broken, fix it ASAP. How could this even make it into the live patch? Anet dropping the ball again.

LOL… Ranger get boons → OMG too OP

Ele got boons to the WHOLE PARTY → Balance

Guardians got boons to the WHOLE PARTY → Balance

Not to mention both of those classes keep all the cleanse, healing, block, invulnerable despite having access to heavy boons while for ranger, they sacrifices every possible survival/ cleanse / stunbreak, and has no block/invulnerable or any “oh-kitten” bottom at all.

Double standard is real.

Eval.2371:

Ragnarox.9601:

so pet doing 9k dmg plus maul doing 8k….nice buffing and creating new power creep…GG AT BALANCING STUFF!!

ranger can do 20k dmg in 1 sec..thank you.

lol this is old news. If you played a power builds pre patch you could land 10-15k mauls(which is is just SoH/MoC maul) or a 10k rapid fire its really not that hard. Canines have been hitting 5-9k for a long time. Somewhere I have a screen shot of my fernhound downing a thief from full with sickem for 11k.

The only things they changed damage wise is they allowed us to copy boons to and fro pets. It just means we can actually use the might we stack(most of might stacking goes to pets). The damage potential was always there, just stacking might was a problem.

People that are complaining about the boon stacking don’t understand at all, go play some and wait till you encounter anyone with boon rip or corruption. You literally implode.

Pretty much this. I have a Guardian video some where that showed me getting 1 shotted by a lucky Maul + procs prepatch. It was so ridiculous I had to add it in the vid >.>

nothing interesting happening with rangers until the druid rolls out. a bunch of noobs are clamoring about some boons on a spec that does zero damage.

Ranger is actually kind of strong right now in a 1v1…of course, they can’t cleanse very well, and the gimmick people are complaining about here is terrible, but the profession itself…

First of all, @OP I have been getting damage numbers like that since the 6/23 specializations update. Today’s patch did not change that.

Second, to gain all those boons Rangers have to give up so much. Maybe the boons are fun but if you actually go ahead and build around WHAO you get a build that is completely 1 dimensional, is good at feeding on bads, and gets completely rolled by good players.

Quickness op? You are literally allowing an axe ranger to auto you to death. LOS plz.

Unholy Pillager.3791:

Ranger is actually kind of strong right now in a 1v1…of course, they can’t cleanse very well, and the gimmick people are complaining about here is terrible, but the profession itself…

the cele condi bunker got buffed quite a bit with WHaO (I can now get 20+ stacks of might for a short time), but the gimmicky boon stacking build is a free kill.

So that’s why I was killing every Ranger tonight in like 3 seconds…. some kitten build that tries to bring no condi clear, heal or invuln… I see now.

Buff ranger, kitten Mesmer into the ground. This has been the pattern for years now.