Guild Wars 2

congratulations arenanet dev team, you just deleted a completely balanced amulet.

with the removal of the minstrel amulet you just destroyed the whole build diversity of support specs. for the first time after the removal of traitline stats it was possible again to play a full support spec on ele without having to run a suicide build with 11k/13k hp or 1900 armor. tempest, an already lackluster elite specialisation, had an almost viable build with that amulet.
but hey at least i can go back to celestial now.

you want to be an esport? then learn how to balance first.

What were the stats on it? I never even got to see it before they removed it…

same goes for bunker/support guard. They got completely pushed away because of bruiser builds. 13k hp with the current power creep is just not possible. Support builds enables your team to run more offensive stuff. By killing it/removing this amulett, we will get the same 5ele soloq gameplay again, only that its 5cele nec/ranger this time around

Please give us back a legit support option.

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

What were the stats on it? I never even got to see it before they removed it…

around 1000 toughness, 500 vit, 1000 healing power and 37% boon duration.

They removed a massive cancerous tumor from spvp imo. Thank you devs for making the game more ejoyable.

Its a good change…with tht amulet a bunker can facetank 3 or more in pvp..there’s a different between bunker and unkillable

of course a support needs to be able to tank damage…. you have to stand on a point, you’re the backbone of a team, supporting them. if the support drops before everything else then where’s the reason to even bring a support…..

just because people are too stupid to rotate and 1v3 a support spec that gives up damage for support doesn’t make an amulet unabalanced. if you 1v1 a minstrel player on a neutral node your taking their complete support out of a big teamfight. but people rather 1v3 and complain instead of going for the other 2 nodes…..

Full tank amulet is a plague in a capture point style game. It needed to go. 1 person should not be able to hold a point forever in a 2v1 and even 3v1. I said it the moment I had seen that amulet that it needed to go and I’m glad it is gone.

OneKlicKill.4285:

Full tank amulet is a plague in a capture point style game. It needed to go. 1 person should not be able to hold a point forever in a 2v1 and even 3v1. I said it the moment I had seen that amulet that it needed to go and I’m glad it is gone.

Cleric’s does the exact same thing.

Of course you need to be able to drop a support before everything else, where do you think the phrase focus the healer comes from.

That being said, I can’t really comment too much on the amulet since I never really tried it.

support in gw2 is nothing like healers in traditional mmos. a support in gw2 gives out boons, peels a bit and gives small amounts of healing to his allies and cleanses conditions while he stands on the node and the other players fight around it. in gw2 you drop the squishiest dps first, not the support..

There’s some irony in the fact that it was removed before they ever fixed the fact that the boon duration didn’t work on it.

destroyed my druid twice, first lingering light, then minstrel

Zatoichi.1049:

destroyed my druid twice, first lingering light, then minstrel

If you are any good Cleric’s is and was better for Druids without the boon duration working.

glaphen.5230:

Zatoichi.1049:

destroyed my druid twice, first lingering light, then minstrel

If you are any good Cleric’s is and was better for Druids without the boon duration working.

your missing the point

The power on Cleric’s is more or less wasted when playing a Druid. Not like the skills do any relevant amount of damage, even with full power.

Laki.7160:

The power on Cleric’s is more or less wasted when playing a Druid. Not like the skills do any relevant amount of damage, even with full power.

Please, every time I died with a Druid in the fight the top skill was always their staff basic attack, now imagine if they had more than double damage.

On one hand, I’m gonna miss the bunker support roles of ele and guard with that amulet, on the other hand, immortal rangers.

Removal of PvP Minstrel Amulet was good. It had far too many defensive stats.

However, this leaves a problem, which is the lack of stat customization making many builds too weak or not viable. The PvP amulets need to be split into multiple items. It’s been needed for over a year now.

long live the new cele meta, which is totally what we all wanted, meanwhile stuff like a 4-stat zealot amulet languishes in non-existence for all time.

terribly disappointed with anet here.

Glad they took the time to let things play out so they could make an informed decision…..
/s

So, I’m confused on what to do as a staff ele support now without Minstrel’s.

Do I run around with sub-12k health with Cleric amulet? I was having a lot of fun :[

I’m so confused by all these threads. I can’t tell if people wanted or hated the minstrel amuletanymore.

Kuya.6495:

I’m so confused by all these threads. I can’t tell if people wanted or hated the minstrel amuletanymore.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Can-we-remove-Minstrel-Amulet/first
This was the only thread about it and it was mainly about Druids after the first like 5 posts.

Anti.9156:

same goes for bunker/support guard. They got completely pushed away because of bruiser builds. 13k hp with the current power creep is just not possible. Support builds enables your team to run more offensive stuff. By killing it/removing this amulett, we will get the same 5ele soloq gameplay again, only that its 5cele nec/ranger this time around

Please give us back a legit support option.

Totally correct, GIVE IT BACK

There was a thread from a couple days ago titled Remove Minstrel Amulet or something in that context.

The majority of the complaints were about druids being unkillable (they are, but it’s more convenient for people to demand for nerfs instead of learning how to counter)

So maybe anet removed minstrel with druids in mind without ever considering the other classes or builds that relied on it that no one complained about, i.e. bunker guards, support eles.

Sigh….they immediately refunded my gold for purchasing it last week. I guess they have no intent to bring it back.

they should have just removed ranger tbh. that’s why the amulet was removed, ranger was about to become a popular choice for tournament teams.

Kuya.6495:

I’m so confused by all these threads. I can’t tell if people wanted or hated the minstrel amuletanymore.

Both. It offered a more balanced stat combination than clerics (no vitality on cleric really hurts guardians and eles). However, the fact that it had purely defensive stats make defensive builds way too survivable.

Maybe they should have replaced with an amulet
toughness
healing power
boon duration
(so drop the vitality, increase the boon duration).

then we could have some boon duration without having more tankiness than clerics.

choovanski.5462:

they should have just removed ranger tbh. that’s why the amulet was removed, ranger was about to become a popular choice for tournament teams.

Pretty much this.