Guild Wars 2

About a month ago, some friends and I completed the story version of victory or death, where we killed Zhaitan and everything. At the time, I was only into like level 32 of my personal story quest.

Fast forward a month later. This past week I decided to finish my story, and I’m nearly there. Except now..apparently..at the end of the line..I have a quest called “Victory or Death” where I am asked to kill Zhaitan. Does the game not recognize that I’ve already done this?

Do I have to actually go through this long-tedious quest again to completely finish my personal story?

Edit..first paragraph is slightly confusing, what I meant to say was that some friends and I completed the ARAH Dungeon Story, where we killed Zhaitan and everything.

Evidently this is a problem that has already been discussed, and appears to be a bug.

Needs fixing, ASAP

Agree, i’m stuck at that step of the storyline too, i found the fight against zhaitan so boring that i’m not going to do it again anytime soon..
(don’t get me wrong, arah story is a great dungeon, it’s only the last part that imo sucks, zhaitan stands still while your party nukes him..it’s slow and boring imo)

I think this isn’t a bug: as you said in your first post, you were at level 32 of your personal story, so “victory or death” wasn’t your next story quest at that time and you couldn’t count that in your story.
It’s like writing a book till page 32, then write the end and come back to page 33

How is the story step and the story mode of the dungeon different? The story step just tells you to go and do the dungeon. If a player has already done the dungeon and killed Zhaitan why does the game not recognize this?

Or to put the question another way, why is there no warning not to do the Arah story dungeon until you have done the personal story up to that point?

Yeah, unfortunately that part was really badly thought out. If it weren’t for wikis and forums I would have never realized that Arah SM is the final quest of your personal story. Kind of ruins the immersion, and possibly motivation to go back and finish your personal story after running the dungeon. Not to mention the Orr stuff is largely uninteresting and the rewards are unremarkable.

The dungeons should have been available to the player in order that they beat them chronologically. So the Manor cannot be done until the player runs Ascalonian Catacombs, and Twilight Arbor can’t be started until the Manor is completed. All the way to Arah. That way the player is still participating in the story, only with Destiny’s Edge instead of Trahearne if they don’t have time to do personal story. But let’s face it, Destiny’s Edge should have been the main story, while the dungeons should have been dealing with Trahearne and the Orders.

Just redo it. If you can get a guild-party or friends going, it’s a breeze. Completed it twice: first with full random party, second time with 1 guildie and 3 randoms.

There are also some hints and tips around, if you feel that it’s a challenge.

Considering that all the other dungeons (and their story modes) didn’t connect with your personal story, I don’t see why clearing Arah story prior to Victory Or Death should tag it as complete. And, considering that the story is quite clearly chained, getting Victory Or Death reward once you clear the story step prior to that would be just plain silly and out of context: “Oh, you already killed Zhaitan when you were still making a name for yourself by holding out against the centaurs? I’ll be darned, guess we didn’t need to send tons of people to battle the corruption…”

Besides, personal story has rather clearly marked level recommendation and it syncs well with rest of the areas, so if you’ve decided to skip or postpone it, it might be a bit of your own fault.

Sidenote: unless you have QA background, stop shouting “bug” at every opportunity. Just because something works differently from what you expect (and often not in your favor), doesn’t mean it’s a bug.

Aireroth.7596:

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Besides, personal story has rather clearly marked level recommendation and it syncs well with rest of the areas, so if you’ve decided to skip or postpone it, it might be a bit of your own fault…

And this may not be true. I was trying to do all personal story mission at the right level … but one mission (with undead ships) was bugged, so I had to wait 14+ days to be able to continue … of course I’ve leveled to 80 and completed Arah Story dungeon.

Now I am forced to do it again. No, I don’t think it’s my fault.

Besides: story modes are supposed to do once – as a part (optional part!) of Personal story and to unlock explorable modes. And all of a sudden you have to do dungeon to complete Story mission. All misssions lvl 1-80 are soloable, so why we have to to dungeon at the end?

P. S.
1) No, it’s not about if I want to do easy things. I want things to be challenging, but this is just bothersome.
2) No, it’s not about “it’s easy to find a group”. Most people really don’t like this story mode of Arah dungeon, many my guildmates say that this is the most boring part of the game – but for sure I can find a group. But the question is: Why? I’ve already completed it. And it was not my fault that I haven’t the right Personal story mission.

Don’t understand me wrong. the game is great and I really like it – but things like this just spoiling my game experience.

I understand your point. Story modes are a bit lacking, especially if doing them more than once.
I also apologize, as I didn’t consider the bug part that may stop story progression and mistook it for lack of interest in it (people rushing to 80 skipping everything).

Regarding story mode dungeons, I’ve done quite a few of them multiple times, mainly to help guildies out with it. Yes, it might not be as beneficial for me, but the feeling you get when you help someone out is worth it.

Anyway, I can imagine re-designing this would not really be worth the cost and this topic can serve the informative purpose for people who haven’t reached that part of the game yet.

I also had that problem at the end story quest. You should wait until the guild wars 2 support team sort it out (which they are) and i was quite dissapointed with the end loot i dont know if it will be the same for you though. Good luck

Aireroth.7596:

I understand your point. Story modes are a bit lacking, especially if doing them more than once.
I also apologize, as I didn’t consider the bug part that may stop story progression and mistook it for lack of interest in it (people rushing to 80 skipping everything).

Regarding story mode dungeons, I’ve done quite a few of them multiple times, mainly to help guildies out with it. Yes, it might not be as beneficial for me, but the feeling you get when you help someone out is worth it.

Anyway, I can imagine re-designing this would not really be worth the cost and this topic can serve the informative purpose for people who haven’t reached that part of the game yet.

I was just about to start the second to last story mission when a pug became available for the dungeon and, very happy with my good luck, I jumped in thinking I could do that first and then finish of the rest of my personal story without having to find another group later. 4 hours later when I discovered that for being one mission short in the personal story I would have to do it all again I was not impressed.

Like you say the dungeons are not closely linked to the personal story, but despite the Arah dungeon being different in this respect there is no indication of this in the game. When you hit 80 in game Arah becomes available to your character same as all the other dungeons and the in game email sent to you makes no reference to being at the right stage of the personal story. It woulnt be that hard for them to either make the dungeon unavailable until you finish personal story up to that point or simply add text to the dungeon available message and entering dungeon message to let players know they may want to wait for their personal story to start. They make bigger changes than that in just about every patch. Anything but letting people go in there under the mistaken impression that their killing Zhaitan will count for anything outside of the dungeon.

Its very easy to say just do it again when you haven’t been in this situation because you don’t feel how frustrating it is to think you are achieving something that you are not. I would happily run the dungeon two times if it was to help people out or for loot or whatever reason but I don’t want to do it again just because killing Zhaitan once doesn’t count unless Traherne has done his whatever thingy in the wherever place.

Webba.3071:

How is the story step and the story mode of the dungeon different? The story step just tells you to go and do the dungeon. If a player has already done the dungeon and killed Zhaitan why does the game not recognize this?

Or to put the question another way, why is there no warning not to do the Arah story dungeon until you have done the personal story up to that point?

I think an equally important question is why do i have to do a 5-man group dungeon to complete my PERSONAL story in the first place?