Guild Wars 2

Similar to the way the Guild Wars 1 costume system was set up, you should be able to mix and match your town clothing with your armor.

Toggling between town clothing and armor is just silly in my opinion.

You should be able to equip whatever costume pieces you want
(head, pauldrons, top, bottom, boots, etc)
and have a Visibility toggle for each individual piece.

Want a complete costume that you can wear in combat?
Toggle all pieces as visible.

Want to hide your costume and show your armor?
Toggle all pieces as invisible.

Just like the mad king’s costume headpiece?
Toggle that piece to visible, and all other pieces to invisible.

Don’t like the headpiece for a costume, but like the rest of the outfit…?
…I’m sure you get the idea already.

I can only see this improving costume sales, so its a win-win situation for us (the players) and for Anet!

This system worked fine for Guild Wars 1

heavies wearing cook outfits would confuse me
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I have to admit, I’m not a fan of seeing people running around in a costume while adventuring. And the more silly the costumes get, the less I’ll like it. I just have this idea that heroes should like heroes and not clowns.

My apologies to any clowns reading this that are also heroes.

Anyway, if a change like this were to happen, I would appreciate having an option on my client to disable costume visuals from my perspective. I don’t care if you look like a clown, so long as I can’t see it.

I have nothing against clowns.

Edge.4180:

I have to admit, I’m not a fan of seeing people running around in a costume while adventuring. And the more silly the costumes get, the less I’ll like it. I just have this idea that heroes should like heroes and not clowns.

My apologies to any clowns reading this that are also heroes.

Anyway, if a change like this were to happen, I would appreciate having an option on my client to disable costume visuals from my perspective. I don’t care if you look like a clown, so long as I can’t see it.

I have nothing against clowns.

That’s like saying that I don’t like seeing females all bundled up, or all skimpy, so the the world should revolve around my preferences and stop anyone from offending my sensibilities or provide me with an option to see the world how I want.

Sorry you don’t like the idea, but, your preference of how you want to see other players should not supersede their right to appear how they want while playing.

Town clothing could have weak armor stats.

make it able to wear town clothes over normal armor , good idea. everyone should be able to look how they want to even in combat!

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Edge.4180:

I have to admit, I’m not a fan of seeing people running around in a costume while adventuring. And the more silly the costumes get, the less I’ll like it. I just have this idea that heroes should like heroes and not clowns.

My apologies to any clowns reading this that are also heroes.

Anyway, if a change like this were to happen, I would appreciate having an option on my client to disable costume visuals from my perspective. I don’t care if you look like a clown, so long as I can’t see it.

I have nothing against clowns.

That’s like saying that I don’t like seeing females all bundled up, or all skimpy, so the the world should revolve around my preferences and stop anyone from offending my sensibilities or provide me with an option to see the world how I want.

Sorry you don’t like the idea, but, your preference of how you want to see other players should not supersede their right to appear how they want while playing.

What you’re essentially saying is that you should be in control of what I see, rather than me being in control of what I see, and I just don’t agree with that. It’s kind of why options like the profanity filter allow me to filter the comments of others no matter how much they might want to get their complete message across to me.

If you want to run around in town clothing while you fight, I’m cool with that. However, you should not be opposed to me choosing to not see characters around me fighting in town clothing.

Or would you rather I just drone on about how town clothing is supposed to be for non-combat use and designed with that intention, and stand by that?

Edge.4180:

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Edge.4180:

I have to admit, I’m not a fan of seeing people running around in a costume while adventuring. And the more silly the costumes get, the less I’ll like it. I just have this idea that heroes should like heroes and not clowns.

My apologies to any clowns reading this that are also heroes.

Anyway, if a change like this were to happen, I would appreciate having an option on my client to disable costume visuals from my perspective. I don’t care if you look like a clown, so long as I can’t see it.

I have nothing against clowns.

That’s like saying that I don’t like seeing females all bundled up, or all skimpy, so the the world should revolve around my preferences and stop anyone from offending my sensibilities or provide me with an option to see the world how I want.

Sorry you don’t like the idea, but, your preference of how you want to see other players should not supersede their right to appear how they want while playing.

What you’re essentially saying is that you should be in control of what I see, rather than me being in control of what I see, and I just don’t agree with that. It’s kind of why options like the profanity filter allow me to filter the comments of others no matter how much they might want to get their complete message across to me.

If you want to run around in town clothing while you fight, I’m cool with that. However, you should not be opposed to me choosing to not see characters around me fighting in town clothing.

Or would you rather I just drone on about how town clothing is supposed to be for non-combat use and designed with that intention, and stand by that?

Frankly I’d rather you support bad game design by insisting townclothes remain non-combat rather than allow you to assert some nonsensical doublestandard that it’s ok if I control what you see, as long as you like what you see, but when you don’t like what you see, you want the option to turn off what you’re seeing.

You have no control now over what you see other people wear, why should that change now? Not sure if you’re aware, but, you can wear townclothes out in the world, now, and if some random asura wants to grab an afro, some boxing gloves, and some shades, and run laps around you while you kill stuff, nothing is stopping him.

You don’t control what anyone else wears, now, or what you see them wear, now. So no, it shouldn’t change.

I think more armour graphics would solve it without using town clothes in combat, the different types of armour at least look combat worthy.

…I really fail to see the logic behind the “no” answers.

But I guess everyone has their opinions on the matter.

TheBlackLeech.9360:

…I really fail to see the logic behind the “no” answers.

But I guess everyone has their opinions on the matter.

You have to keep in mind that Arenanet is so intent on maintaining the integrity of their artistic vision that they’ve gone as far as refusing to provide players with a field of view slider primarily because they feel very strongly that the game looks its best at a specific FoV.

When they create these articles of town clothing, I’m sure they’re being designed with the understanding that (outside of costume brawl) players won’t be seen fighting in these clothes. For some pieces of town clothing that may not seem to make as much sense as it does for other more outlandish outfits, but if you make the exception for one then you’re making it for all.

Publicly shared player made videos and screenshots are often viewed as marketing materials, and perhaps ArenaNet just doesn’t want potential customers to see a youtube video of a group of characters wearing bunny hats while fighting a dragon. It’s not the image of their game they want to get across. If, as a developer, you’re shooting for the image of an “epic game” instead of a “silly game”, I can certainly understand that.

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Edge.4180:

I have to admit, I’m not a fan of seeing people running around in a costume while adventuring. And the more silly the costumes get, the less I’ll like it. I just have this idea that heroes should like heroes and not clowns.

My apologies to any clowns reading this that are also heroes.

Anyway, if a change like this were to happen, I would appreciate having an option on my client to disable costume visuals from my perspective. I don’t care if you look like a clown, so long as I can’t see it.

I have nothing against clowns.

That’s like saying that I don’t like seeing females all bundled up, or all skimpy, so the the world should revolve around my preferences and stop anyone from offending my sensibilities or provide me with an option to see the world how I want.

Sorry you don’t like the idea, but, your preference of how you want to see other players should not supersede their right to appear how they want while playing.

What you’re essentially saying is that you should be in control of what I see, rather than me being in control of what I see, and I just don’t agree with that. It’s kind of why options like the profanity filter allow me to filter the comments of others no matter how much they might want to get their complete message across to me.

If you want to run around in town clothing while you fight, I’m cool with that. However, you should not be opposed to me choosing to not see characters around me fighting in town clothing.

Or would you rather I just drone on about how town clothing is supposed to be for non-combat use and designed with that intention, and stand by that?

Frankly I’d rather you support bad game design by insisting townclothes remain non-combat rather than allow you to assert some nonsensical doublestandard that it’s ok if I control what you see, as long as you like what you see, but when you don’t like what you see, you want the option to turn off what you’re seeing.

You have no control now over what you see other people wear, why should that change now? Not sure if you’re aware, but, you can wear townclothes out in the world, now, and if some random asura wants to grab an afro, some boxing gloves, and some shades, and run laps around you while you kill stuff, nothing is stopping him.

You don’t control what anyone else wears, now, or what you see them wear, now. So no, it shouldn’t change.

You’re trying to lump armor styles that were intentionally designed by an art team to look the way they do with town-clothing costume outfits designed with the understanding that they won’t be used in combat (other than costume brawl). So, yes, you having an issue with female characters being dressed a particular way.. that’s something you have to put up with if you want to play this game because that’s the design choice the artists made.

But, while misery may love company, don’t expect me to be in favor of players dressed as clowns fighting through my dungeon. Because that was something that was never intended, something that the designers have mentioned they’re against several times now. It’s simply something you’re requesting. And while I’m cool with backing the request as long as certain conditions are met, I’m not going to cheer for the idea unless I can flip an option that allows me to keep the artistic integrity of the game intact.

That’s the difference. You want to mess with the artistic integrity of the game and I want to be able to ignore you messing with it. Comparing that to your example of being subjected to female characters wearing particular sets of armor you’re not fond of.. that IS the artistic vision for the game whether you like it or not.

Way to go all control-freak on me and make a simple request overly complicated. :P

You think the design intent backs your opinion.

What happens when the design intent changes? Or Anet changes their minds about “maintaining” it?

My point is that there’s tons of things you can do now that break from this “design intent”. We’ve got princess wands, chainsaw swords, severed hands with daggers dagger skins, and lots of other silly stuff that you’d expect on town gear that you can put right on a normal combat weapon.

And honestly if you can sell me on the difference between most of the human female starter gear and their town gear, I’m all ears. It’s all the same. It’s an effing dress. The pirate outfit shares elements with existing leather gear. They’re all just outfits.

Now, I would support blatantly joke items like boxing gloves not being combat items, but, only grudgingly, and only to placate people who think like you so that the overall change could take place.

Anet will never implement a feature that hides other player’s aesthetic changes to their characters, I’d explain why, but there’s a lot to it, but needless to say it’s part design intent, and part player reaction, and part logistics. But I’m sure they’d never do it. Which is why I’m against that concept being a rallying cry. “Just as long as I don’t have to look at it” can’t be the battle cry of people who think they know the game’s design intent better than the development team, or be slung against them like a weapon when the decide to be flexible and work with player requests for change.

A game doesn’t lose it’s artistic integrity over stuff like this. In fact I’m not sure where it’s written what their design intent is, or anything that causes a loss of any type of integrity over a change like this. You’re essentially asserting that your impression of their artistic vision is an intentional conveyance of their intent and that deviance from it would somehow lessen them. I happen to disagree.

Yes, please can we get this done. Maybe not with every costume, but with the normal clothing so’s we can be casual outside the cities for rp reasons. If I’m playin’ a swashbuckler character, but a warrior class, I wanna be able to look the part an’ not be bouncin’ around fencin’ in my heavy armor. Some of the light and medium armor is clothing like, but not enough of it an’ there’s no reason we shouldn’ be able to wear casual skins over our full plate. Heck, make people pay for a casual armor slot an’ make some money on it – I’d buy.

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And honestly if you can sell me on the difference between most of the human female starter gear and their town gear, I’m all ears. It’s all the same. It’s an effing dress. The pirate outfit shares elements with existing leather gear. They’re all just outfits.

What I said:

Edge.4180:

When they create these articles of town clothing, I’m sure they’re being designed with the understanding that (outside of costume brawl) players won’t be seen fighting in these clothes. For some pieces of town clothing that may not seem to make as much sense as it does for other more outlandish outfits, but if you make the exception for one then you’re making it for all.

I don’t mind the idea of players adventuring in some of the town clothes (like the pirate outfit). I think they actually look pretty cool and fitting for an adventurer. But, to try and stay immersed in the game while fighting besides people like the fellow pictured below.. I just don’t need that. Fun to laugh at, sure, but wouldn’t want him in my field of view while assaulting the gates of Arah, though.

Probably easier just to ask for a larger variety of cosmetic armor skins on the store. At least they’re more likely to be designed with semi-seriousness in mind.

Mea.5491:

I agree. …. Costumes are the only thing I would pay for (real money) in GW2, to be really honest. I really love the Krytan armor skin we have right now and I have it in my bank for my Thief for higher lvls, it’s annoying because I don’t have enough trans stones to change my look to that every 5 lvls, but please, if we don’t get costumes, at least give us more of these armor skins! :c Sorry for my bad English.

Costumes, hair redesign and the transformation stones are the only thing I spend real cash on – the only thing I want enough to spend money on. The Krytan armor is great if you’re going for that look, and there are some light-medium armors which look good, but not nearly enough variety – especially with heavy armors – to be so limiting. At the very least it would be nice if we could use our trans stones between armor types, so we could have the look of light armor – which looks like clothing often as not – but the protection of heavy. (or vice versa)